Black Ice Pro III or Swiftech MCR320

JrRacinFan · Jul 19, 2011, 05:01 PM

Yeah, it's getting that time of year again. Usually do a watercooling loop at near end of summer. Question for you guys though hich i may have answered myself:

Which one would be better from a noise/db standpoint (although noise doesn't bother me to an extent)? I think the mcr320 would be better due to it's lower FPI count just wanted some insight. Or if anyone could point me a 120 triple that would work out better .....

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bmaverick · Jul 19, 2011, 05:25 PM

Both seem about equal.

On my preference, I would run with DD for the RAD. They have been doing RADs for a very long time and have a good running history with flow and performance.

JrRacinFan · Jul 19, 2011, 05:45 PM

DD eh? Got any suggestions? Still thinking about just being cheap and getting the xspc rasa kit with a triple rad

mlee49 · Jul 19, 2011, 05:53 PM

IMO lower FPI counts allow better use of lower rpm fans, which can imply overall quieter systems.

Have you checked out MagiCool? Decent adversary.

JrRacinFan · Jul 19, 2011, 07:28 PM

magicool got it. yeah I'm thinking I'm just going to go cheap with this and switch out the Rad later on.

Pestilence · Jul 19, 2011, 07:48 PM

Rasa kit is nice. I'd vote for that

bmaverick · Jul 20, 2011, 03:56 AM

The rasa kit is sweet, but has a an Achilles heel to it ... the pump. Out of kits on the market today, the rasa kit has more know pump failures than most. The good thing is, XSPC honors the warranty very well for the pump, however, once the pump is beyond warranty, you are on your own. Also, the rasa pump is weaker than the weakest DDC-1 Laing pump.

Don;t get me wrong though, the RAD and block(s) are superior! The RES holds ample fluid too. If the pump ever goes, well, look for a DDC to mount near it or to get a DDC with a RES top to mount elsewhere.

exodusprime1337 · Jul 20, 2011, 04:03 AM

i'm using a mcr320 from swiftech and i love it, it's served well for so long now, keeps my 1090 under 55 during any stress when the room is 75-80, i'm using a swiftech mcp 655 as well

Pestilence · Jul 20, 2011, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmaverick

The rasa kit is sweet, but has a an Achilles heel to it ... the pump. Out of kits on the market today, the rasa kit has more know pump failures than most. The good thing is, XSPC honors the warranty very well for the pump, however, once the pump is beyond warranty, you are on your own. Also, the rasa pump is weaker than the weakest DDC-1 Laing pump.

Don;t get me wrong though, the RAD and block(s) are superior! The RES holds ample fluid too. If the pump ever goes, well, look for a DDC to mount near it or to get a DDC with a RES top to mount elsewhere.

Agreed. I've had the Rasa pump/res for 2 years now without any issues. Always been great and so easy to bleed the system with it.

Steevo · Jul 20, 2011, 01:27 PM

I run my system 24/7 folding, gaming, media....

I just recently changed my coolant and only as it was low and I wanted too. I still get awesome temps while overclocked and running hard.

JrRacinFan · Jul 20, 2011, 02:05 PM

Alright well i guess it's decided then. I will go the Rasa kit picking up an MCR320 after a while.

Thanks guys!

EDIT:

If the bay pump were to eventually break down, can I still use it as a res?

Pestilence · Jul 20, 2011, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

If the bay pump were to eventually break down, can I still use it as a res?

Yes.

JrRacinFan · Jul 20, 2011, 04:52 PM

Thanks!

Now as far as GPU goes, I am sticking with the GTX460 for quite a bit longer. I have an MCW60 Gpu block downstairs in a box full of extra parts. Anyone know what i would need to get that mounted properly?

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Jul 22, 2011, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Alright well i guess it's decided then. I will go the Rasa kit picking up an MCR320 after a while.

Thanks guys!

EDIT:

If the bay pump were to eventually break down, can I still use it as a res?

Afaik, the rasa kit comes with an rs360 rad version as well.. probly equal to the mcr320

JrRacinFan · Jul 22, 2011, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Of_Iceland

Afaik, the rasa kit comes with an rs360 rad version as well.. probly equal to the mcr320

Yeah i have been reading and they are quite similar.

Eventually was looking at switching back cases to my rocketfish after a mod to it so it can allow both triple rads internally.

TheMailMan78 · Jul 22, 2011, 04:29 PM

Personally I like Swiftech. Everything I have ever seen from them has been uber nice and well made.

JrRacinFan · Jul 22, 2011, 04:39 PM

So I am guessing the general consensus is leaning to MCR320. Thanks guys.

yogurt_21 · Jul 22, 2011, 07:18 PM

just as an fyi, I have a black Ice pro 3 and it is likely a worse performer than the 320, I think the 320 is a between the pro 3 and the black ice xtreme 3 performance.

the 320 is 30% thicker than the black ice pro 3. if anyone cared the xtreme 3 is 36% thicker than the swiftech 320 and 77% thicker than the pro 3.

based o the fact they cost the same, the above posters recomedned correctly, you get more radiator for your money.

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Jul 19, 2011, 05:25 PM	#2
bmaverick Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Honky Tonk Nashville, TN Posts: 271 (0.23/day) Thanks: 20 Thanked 35 Times in 27 Posts	Both seem about equal. On my preference, I would run with DD for the RAD. They have been doing RADs for a very long time and have a good running history with flow and performance. __________________ If I ever had a transaction with you, please fill out my heatware! Support Your Local Sheriff - At high noon

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JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.14/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	magicool got it. yeah I'm thinking I'm just going to go cheap with this and switch out the Rad later on. __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

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bmaverick Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Honky Tonk Nashville, TN Posts: 271 (0.23/day) Thanks: 20 Thanked 35 Times in 27 Posts	The rasa kit is sweet, but has a an Achilles heel to it ... the pump. Out of kits on the market today, the rasa kit has more know pump failures than most. The good thing is, XSPC honors the warranty very well for the pump, however, once the pump is beyond warranty, you are on your own. Also, the rasa pump is weaker than the weakest DDC-1 Laing pump. Don;t get me wrong though, the RAD and block(s) are superior! The RES holds ample fluid too. If the pump ever goes, well, look for a DDC to mount near it or to get a DDC with a RES top to mount elsewhere. __________________ If I ever had a transaction with you, please fill out my heatware! Support Your Local Sheriff - At high noon

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JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.14/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	Alright well i guess it's decided then. I will go the Rasa kit picking up an MCR320 after a while. Thanks guys! EDIT: If the bay pump were to eventually break down, can I still use it as a res? __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

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JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.14/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	So I am guessing the general consensus is leaning to MCR320. Thanks guys. __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

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