Battlefield 3 Clubhouse

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Cheap.....

20 rounds for around 6$ 1000 for 199$



Hes talking about ammo

yes i realized that. Im referring to the older rounds with corrosive powder.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Cheap.....

20 rounds for around 6$ 1000 for 199$



Hes talking about ammo

Reload your own.....even cheaper.

I used to do about 3000 rounds a month when I would compete. Try keeping from going bankrupt buying all that new.

[ShiBDiB]

This thread has gone completely off topic.. but the never cleaning your weapon post drove me up a wall.. If you cant be bothered to google how to properly maintain a device that could very well save your life some day then your not mature enough to own it.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Reload your own.....even cheaper.

I used to do about 3000 rounds a month when I would compete. Try keeping from going bankrupt buying all that new.

Yea if your a daily shooter then reloading your own would be the way to go but just for a occasional shooter, the cheap boxes is fine as long as it gets a good clean down afterwards

Originally Posted by ShiBDiB

This thread has gone completely off topic.. but the never cleaning your weapon post drove me up a wall.. If you cant be bothered to google how to properly maintain a device that could very well save your life some day then your not mature enough to own it.

10x this post!

Yea its off topic but post count here is out the window so it should hurt that bad. LOL

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Originally Posted by ShiBDiB

This thread has gone completely off topic.. but the never cleaning your weapon post drove me up a wall.. If you cant be bothered to google how to properly maintain a device that could very well save your life some day then your not mature enough to own it.

I mount it on the wall at my folks place. I can not legally house it where I live. I ran the basic cleaning rod and solution the best i could but, I can not read russian and the gun owners in my area are seemingly anti-russian.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by ShiBDiB

This thread has gone completely off topic.. but the never cleaning your weapon post drove me up a wall.. If you cant be bothered to google how to properly maintain a device that could very well save your life some day then your not mature enough to own it.

This post times 9,000!



But on a side note......some jerks leave to much excess oil. Just as bad as not enough. What I love are the assholes who use WD40 on 3k weapons. Makes me not want to live on this planet anymore.

Personally I use breakfree.


ALSO.....stay away from Wolf Ammo everyone. They use a varnish on their casings and WILL gum up your actions and is a bitch to clean.

Originally Posted by Killer_Rubber_Ducky

I mount it on the wall at my folks place. I can not legally house it where I live. I ran the basic cleaning rod and solution the best i could but, I can not read russian and the gun owners in my area are seemingly anti-russian.

You don't need to know Russian to clean a fucking gun Ducky.

[PVTCaboose1337]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

3 feet at 300 yards is bullshit man. Bullshit. You know it.

The M9 was adopted for political reasons. Not because it was a better round or weapon (M9). I've shot IDPA for years and have seen both in action. I don't care WHAT load you put a 9mm in its not even in the same ballpark as the ACP .45. Its a physical impossibility. I have seen 9mm have less then 1" penetration on bone and 2" in gel. .45 has FAR more consistent energy dispersal. Damn I wish you lived closer. We could hit the range. Hell I would even pick up some dies and load you out some wildcats for the piece of shit SKS you got.

I'll measure next time I shoot my SKS from 300 yards (which probably won't happen for a while), and we will see.

Regarding the M9 you are I agree on this, I was not clear. 9mm weighs less, moves faster, while .45 moves slower, weighs more. Due to the kinetic energy equation, E = 1/2mv^2, we see that velocity is the more important factor, as it is squared. Technically, 9mm will have more kinetic energy. All of that aside, I prefer .45ACP recoil to 9mm, more push, less snap, and the 1911 in the hand is pure sex. Regarding ballistic gel tests and all that, I have seen .45ACP stopped by a wool jacket over a water jug, etc. Depends on what loads you use in both those rounds. Modern loads for 9x19 and .45 make them both rounds that kill well.

I load too, got my press and all that, just for doing .243 loads. I actually have my own dies for x39, but don't load it often cause this is an SKS, and most brass (steel in my case) is not boxer primed, so it is not possible to reload. I have to buy modern ammo if I want to reload, and those primers are so soft the rifle will slam fire on them, so I have to go out of my way to pick up hard primers, which is a real pain. Also, the rifle is an SKS, and it wants to eat what cheap Russian ammo I throw at it.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

I'll measure next time I shoot my SKS from 300 yards (which probably won't happen for a while), and we will see.

Regarding the M9 you are I agree on this, I was not clear. 9mm weighs less, moves faster, while .45 moves slower, weighs more. Due to the kinetic energy equation, E = 1/2mv^2, we see that velocity is the more important factor, as it is squared. Technically, 9mm will have more kinetic energy. All of that aside, I prefer .45ACP recoil to 9mm, more push, less snap, and the 1911 in the hand is pure sex. Regarding ballistic gel tests and all that, I have seen .45ACP stopped by a wool jacket over a water jug, etc. Depends on what loads you use in both those rounds. Modern loads for 9x19 and .45 make them both rounds that kill well.

I load too, got my press and all that, just for doing .243 loads. I actually have my own dies for x39, but don't load it often cause this is an SKS, and most brass (steel in my case) is not boxer primed, so it is not possible to reload. I have to buy modern ammo if I want to reload, and those primers are so soft the rifle will slam fire on them, so I have to go out of my way to pick up hard primers, which is a real pain. Also, the rifle is an SKS, and it wants to eat what cheap Russian ammo I throw at it.

Well I wont go round and round with you on the .45 vs 9mm. Thats just another version of Ford vs Chevy or AMD vs Intel. I will say the FBI TRP use the .45 for a reason. Also Larry Vickers builds almost exclusively 1911's for the likes of "operators" for a reason.

As for your ammo have you tried Speer? Their primers are top notch.

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

This post times 9,000!

http://newsimg.ngfiles.com/143000/14...clh4chsr_l.jpg

But on a side note......some jerks leave to much excess oil. Just as bad as not enough. What I love are the assholes who use WD40 on 3k weapons. Makes me not want to live on this planet anymore.

Personally I use breakfree.


ALSO.....stay away from Wolf Ammo everyone. They use a varnish on their casings and WILL gum up your actions and is a bitch to clean.



You don't need to know Russian to clean a fucking gun Ducky.

I do if i need to know how to break down a Russian rifle from WWII. See, in the Army, every thing was in English with pictures. Not on this rifle. it is in Russian with no pics. And yes, i could google, it but I figure a bunch of gun nuts would be more reliable as you can explain the best way or the most efficient way and such.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Killer_Rubber_Ducky

I do if i need to know how to break down a Russian rifle from WWII. See, in the Army, every thing was in English with pictures. Not on this rifle. it is in Russian with no pics.

Until you learn how to clean that rifle I ban you from the clubhouse. You will be removed from the list.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky hence forth is removed from the BF3 Clubhouse until he learns how to clean his fucking rifle.

[brandonwh64]

If you cannot clean it using this thread then.....

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinDisassembly.htm

[TheMailMan78]

Here...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ther/mosin.pdf

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Until you learn how to clean that rifle I ban you from the clubhouse. You will be removed from the list.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky hence forth is removed from the BF3 Clubhouse until he learns how to clean his fucking rifle.

how, nice. guess that will be forever since i am not near my folks house where it is.I havent been there in close to 1 year. Seriously, it sits in a gun closet and collects dust. I have fired i think 5 rounds total. I can clean an M16, AK47, and 1911. I was just curious if any of you russian gun nuts had any tips etc. The only thing I really need to know is how to use those damn sights. They remind me of the sites on an M203 but no clue how they work.

[ShiBDiB]

Wait I missed the M9 discussion.. Having carried one with a round in the chamber on fire on my leg for 4 years now I can say I cannot wait for the day we switch to atleast a 40 and get rid of these pop guns...

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by ShiBDiB

Wait I missed the M9 discussion.. Having carried one with a round in the chamber on fire on my leg for 4 years now I can say I cannot wait for the day we switch to atleast a 40 and get rid of these pop guns...

Thank you. Fucking gun is garbage. PERIOD.

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Originally Posted by ShiBDiB

Wait I missed the M9 discussion.. Having carried one with a round in the chamber on fire on my leg for 4 years now I can say I cannot wait for the day we switch to atleast a 40 and get rid of these pop guns...

a USP 40? why not go Raging Bull? or S&W 500?

[TheMailMan78]

All I need to make a serious mess.

[CDdude55]

Best place for this:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/index.php

http://home.nra.org/#/home

[ShiBDiB]

Originally Posted by Killer_Rubber_Ducky

a USP 40? why not go Raging Bull? or S&W 500?

http://conspiracyx0.tripod.com/weapons2/454B.gif

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/i...1/26/26652.jpg

No a .40 caliber handgun.. u sound like one of those guys who owns a weapon but doesnt know jack about them outside of movies and video games

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by ShiBDiB

No a .40 caliber handgun.. u sound like one of those guys who owns a weapon but doesnt know jack about them outside of movies and video games

I learned everything I need to know about life from Dr. Seuss books.

[ShiBDiB]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I learned everything I need to know about life from Dr. Seuss books.

Bear Gryll's taught me everything.

[CDdude55]

Originally Posted by ShiBDiB

Bear Gryll's taught me everything.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fHn-jgdR1S...rtle_blood.jpg

[ShiBDiB]

[Wrigleyvillain]

Watch out for that glas-ee-ay!

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I learned everything I need to know about life from Dr. Seuss books.

I was making a joke or do you have aspergers disorder like me? You were talking about moving away from "pop guns" to something with more punch. So i said why not go Big like the old saying about carrying a big stick.