What type of monitor do you use?

[HammerON]

That avatar is just wrong Tatty

[Horrux]

Originally Posted by Robert-The-Rambler

I have a dream.......

To have a monitor with perfect color reproduction, instant response time, a wonderfully uniform picture and decent power consumption. Oh, that is Plasma but I digress......

I value an ultra uniform backlight and better black levels because I like to game in a pitch black setting. I like bloody games with crazy explosions so I want the utmost accurate color reproduction. Maybe I'm a pyromaniac but I want fire to look just like fire. Since I game in the dark I am very sensitive to blotch vision.

All that really matters is you get the monitor that is right for you. Maybe this thread can clear up what the differences are between the various monitors.

I think with response time there is a point where it is less visible especially with the from black performance. I've seen too slow and I've seen fast enough and I've seen Plasma which for me is a pipe dream for PC gaming. I swear I played Dirt 2 and it seems like I was playing the game in hyperactive mode. It just seemed to move so fast. I stopped playing on the 50" Plasma because it isn't mine and I'm paranoid about image retention.

OLEDs are coming. Not right away but yes, they are coming. Full color gamut, brightness to make the sun appear dim, blacks to make space look bright, incredibly fast response time, laughable power consumption, and you can roll it up and carry it under your arm to your next LAN party.

In a few years...

Here: http://www.geekiegadgets.com/2008/ol...nitor-by-sony/

[ShiBDiB]

I have no idea what the difference is between the lcd's.. so i picked all of them... ones gotta be right

[CDdude55]

Originally Posted by ShiBDiB

I have no idea what the difference is between the lcd's.. so i picked all of them... ones gotta be right

Same here lol.

[LordJummy]

I bought my three samsungs in february, and I bought an LG "IPS" panel last month to have a portrait screen for documents, etc. I usually upgrade about every year or so, depending on what new technologies are out.

[Red_Machine]

A relatively old and cheap 22" LCD with a 5ms panel running at 1680x1050. A DGM L-2231WD to be exact.

Want to get one of these sometime soon.

[KieranD]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

Here is a full explanation of all the technologies.

[remixedcat]

Samsung Syncmaster P2350 23in @ 1920x1080 and an LG Flatron W1952TQ 19in @ 1440x900
but TN I think

had the LG since late 2008 and the Samsung since last october I think.

I want to get an IPS, however getting a new GPU and an SSD are more important right now.

My sister is after an IPS but her budget is 330 but willing to go as high as 450-500 if it's really good. she uses a crappy acer lcd and a crt.

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by newtekie1

25" HP LCD TN

Tried a IPS but the latency was to terrible and the ghosting was so bad I just couldn't stand it. Oddly the IPS panel was the first panel I've ever actually noticed the latency on in the form of ghosting, and I've got really old LCDs rated at 16ms...

You tried the wrong one then. There are a few models that really screwed up the control electronics. Really gotta check reviews on them.

Originally Posted by newtekie1

Light bleed isn't a sign of the panel only, it has a lot to do with the backlight and the general build quality of the monitor. Yes, generally IPS monitors are built pretty damn good due to the price of the panel, but I've seen some shitting ones too. A single backlight IPS panel looks pretty terrible compared to a good quality TN LED panel, and suffers from some pretty terrible light bleed.

Also, not all TN panels are 6-bit, in fact most of the 6-bit panels("16.2 Million Color" panels) have faded out of the market in favor of TN panels that can do 8-bit.

And as I mentioned before, IPS panels aren't without their faults either.

There are no 8 bit tn film panels. They are ALL 6 bit and use frc and dithering to achieve 16.7 million colors.

Originally Posted by Horrux

Well you are wrong in many aspects. Firstly, you don't need to maintain a constant 120fps in order to benefit from the 120hz monitor. Average 80fps and you are benefiting, and if you average 80fps in newer games, many older games will run at a constant 120fps. Let me put it this way: if you have a PC that can put out more than 60fps in any of the games you play, your display is holding back the quality of your experience as a gamer.

My PC averages at least 100fps in BFBC2 at max settings AF 16X and MSAA 8X. The silky smoothness of it has nothing in common with gaming on a 60hz display. Fluidity, reaction times, everything is enhanced. BUT YOU HAVE TO EXPERIENCE IT TO UNDERSTAND IT. That is probably the biggest problem with 120hz displays. YOU have clearly not experienced it. Frames between 60 and 90 are EXTREMELY visible, and 90 to 120 only add to the "smoothness" feel of the game, which means they ARE visible, but you might not distinguish them from the frame before or the frame after. AND THAT IS A VERY GOOD THING.

EDIT: Very nice setup, HossHuge. If I had the space, I would have 3 x 120hz displays.

I have. The positive benefits offered during gaming on a 120hz are offset by the better image quality offered by IPS in ALL situations. Benefit only during games, or benefit all the time? The choice was easy for me.

Originally Posted by Horrux

OLEDs are coming. Not right away but yes, they are coming. Full color gamut, brightness to make the sun appear dim, blacks to make space look bright, incredibly fast response time, laughable power consumption, and you can roll it up and carry it under your arm to your next LAN party.

In a few years...

Here: http://www.geekiegadgets.com/2008/ol...nitor-by-sony/

Now that is something I can't wait till they perfect. It's gonna be awesome.

Until then, I have my sights set on the HP LP2480zx for an upgrade when I pinch enough pennies.

Another good article to read to learn about the different panel types: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles...chnologies.htm

[specks]

IPS isn't really that bad when it comes to response time, IMO. Mine has a 5ms response yet I do not see any ghosting when i watch movies or play fast paced games.

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by specks

IPS isn't really that bad when it comes to response time, IMO. Mine has a 5ms response yet I do not see any ghosting when i watch movies or play fast paced games.

Neither do I, but some are that bad, that's why I said you need to research before you buy.

[d3fct]

not sure what to vote, don't know much about monitors, but this is what im rocking.

[kengo24649]

i voted "Other" since i dont know what those choices above was i am viewing this thread to learn xD

[Wile E]

Originally Posted by d3fct

not sure what to vote, don't know much about monitors, but this is what im rocking.

Tn-film.

[d3fct]

forgot to answer the op, about a year ago. and once again thanks wile e. got it for $225 or so i believe.

[entropy13]

A 3 year-old TFT-LCD TN, Acer X233H.

[newtekie1]

Originally Posted by Robert-The-Rambler

All that really matters is you get the monitor that is right for you.

Completely agreed!

Originally Posted by Wile E

You tried the wrong one then. There are a few models that really screwed up the control electronics. Really gotta check reviews on them.

I've tried several, they all ghosted noticeably to me, but all my friends say I'm kind of a nut when it comes to noticing ghosting. IPS panels are just slower than TN, and I notice it.

Originally Posted by Wile E

Neither do I, but some are that bad, that's why I said you need to research before you buy.

That is the truth. There are some really great TN monitors, and some really bad IPS monitors. I don't like any IPS monitor I've used because of the ghosting, but it probably wouldn't be a problem for most. Of course I don't really notice the color difference, and others do. It is all a personal preference thing, there is no perfect monitor.

[Benetanegia]

Originally Posted by newtekie1

That is the truth. There are some really great TN monitors, and some really bad IPS monitors. I don't like any IPS monitor I've used because of the ghosting, but it probably wouldn't be a problem for most. Of course I don't really notice the color difference, and others do. It is all a personal preference thing, there is no perfect monitor.

And that's why I'm still on a Trinitron CRT. I notice both. I notice ghosting on anything but the fastest TNs and the color is simply wrong in everything except the finest and far more expensive IPS and VA. I'm talking about $400+ panels and like I don't want to pay that much for something that would be a sidegrade at best.

I'm waiting for OLEDs to become affordable and also hoping that manufacturers start making them well once they figure out how to fix the Blue OLEDS. Current OLEDs are extremely oversaturated, specially the blue range, so that they last longer with acceptable contrast and colors. Since I also use the monitor for work, color accuracy is a must, so no no.

And speaking of blue OLEDs, am I the only one in the world who has had the idea of putting 2 blue subpixels? I mean come on, I've read a lot about OLEDs and I've seen many techniques they are using to avoid the problem, but not once did I read about putting 2 alternating blue subpixels... I'm missing something here?

[Horrux]

Originally Posted by Benetanegia

And that's why I'm still on a Trinitron CRT. I notice both. I notice ghosting on anything but the fastest TNs and the color is simply wrong in everything except the finest and far more expensive IPS and VA. I'm talking about $400+ panels and like I don't want to pay that much for something that would be a sidegrade at best.

I'm waiting for OLEDs to become affordable and also hoping that manufacturers start making them well once they figure out how to fix the Blue OLEDS. Current OLEDs are extremely oversaturated, specially the blue range, so that they last longer with acceptable contrast and colors. Since I also use the monitor for work, color accuracy is a must, so no no.

And speaking of blue OLEDs, am I the only one in the world who has had the idea of putting 2 blue subpixels? I mean come on, I've read a lot about OLEDs and I've seen many techniques they are using to avoid the problem, but not once did I read about putting 2 alternating blue subpixels... I'm missing something here?

2 different blue subpixels work OK in theory but are harder to drive properly to the screen. They'll get it right, give them time.

[Benetanegia]

Originally Posted by Horrux

2 different blue subpixels work OK in theory but are harder to drive properly to the screen. They'll get it right, give them time.

Can you explain that? Why would it be hard it's just one more matrix and a mux to change between them. They could even make it so that it uses a different one each time the monitor is powered on, nothing more, as simple as that.

[TIGR]

An Acer 22" TN, Sceptre 24" TN, Samsung 275T S-PVA (awesome monitor for IQ, terrible for gaming), and four Dell P1130 CRTs (awesome for gaming [100Hz @ 1600x1200], age-diminished IQ). Have had the Acer and Scepter for maybe five years, got the Samsung and CRTs around two years ago IIRC.

[puma99dk|]

i got a Philips 221EL WLED (White LED) i bought max half a year ago or something, and i luv it, it only uses about 19,3 watt when it's running and it's 5ms no problem for me in all my games ^^



oh and i use the cool/blue colour function or else i get a headache easly using anyway screen

[smoothshooter]

asus ve 278q

[FreedomEclipse]

I use a NEC Multisync EA231wmi

Rumor has it, it uses the same panel as some of Dell's (Ultrasharp U2410) & HP's (LP2475w) higher end range of monitors around the £400+ mark.

[Jetster]

Not sure

LG W2340V PNV