Battlefield 3 Clubhouse - Page 93

TheLaughingMan · Aug 7, 2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CDdude55

EA has confirmed it will not be showing up on Steam, from EA's official Twitter:

I agree that it is a stupid move to do such a thing considering how large the platform is among gamers, they're missing out. Also i think the reason why they only moved Crysis 2, Dragon Age II etc is because they were new titles, they just aren't putting any more of their titles on Steam anymore from that point on. And i believe DLC, updates etc was in fact the reason why they are pulling out.

Fuck Twitter. And Alice came out after both of those games. Its on Steam and there was no problem with it being on there. In fact, I believe it came out later than other retailers as well.

Either way I am getting this game. I want it through Steam, but I will buy it from someone else last minute if I need to.

TheMailMan78 · Aug 7, 2011, 03:21 PM

If I cant get it from Steam then Ill get it from a brick and mortar store. I refuse to have any of my games tied to yet ANOTHER content delivery system.

kid41212003 · Aug 7, 2011, 03:24 PM

I probably pick mine at walmart...

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Originally Posted by boise49ers

Your profile pic looks like Vernon Davis. Is it ?

Nope, his name is Karok...

boise49ers · Aug 8, 2011, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kid41212003

I probably pick mine at walmart...

Nope, his name is Karok...

Being from Cali you have to see the similarities. They could be twins. Doubt he is as ripped as Vernon, but the face looks just like him. I am so ready for football. Oh and BF3

GullyFoyle · Aug 8, 2011, 12:17 PM

gameranx.com - Battlefield 3 point system revealed

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TheLaughingMan · Aug 8, 2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GullyFoyle

gameranx.com - Battlefield 3 point system revealed

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a headshot is only worth a 10% bonus and killing an entire enemy squad nets you a +10? If I single handedly kill an entire squad (500 points for the kills), you really think only 10 points is going to make me feel like a badass for doing it?

TheMailMan78 · Aug 8, 2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

a headshot is only worth a 10% bonus and killing an entire enemy squad nets you a +10? If I single handedly kill an entire squad (500 points for the kills), you really think only 10 points is going to make me feel like a badass for doing it?

Screw that. 300 points for a knife kill? Thats going to make Reayth and Kurgan ejaculate. Its gonna look like the "Jets" vs the "Sharks" out there.

GullyFoyle · Aug 8, 2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

a headshot is only worth a 10% bonus and killing an entire enemy squad nets you a +10? If I single handedly kill an entire squad (500 points for the kills), you really think only 10 points is going to make me feel like a badass for doing it?

Hmmm..maybe they meant to say "Eliminate enemy squad Leader".

random · Aug 8, 2011, 04:11 PM

hooooold up! I cbf reading through 90 pages of this thread, but 300 points for knifing? I hope that is to compensate for the longer time it takes to knife someone in the game due to realistic animations and I hope players are not invincible during the animation either also there is a chance to be countered which further extends the time you knife someone..

Killer_Rubber_Ducky · Aug 8, 2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by random

hooooold up! I cbf reading through 90 pages of this thread, but 300 points for knifing? I hope that is to compensate for the longer time it takes to knife someone in the game due to realistic animations and I hope players are not invincible during the animation either also there is a chance to be countered which further extends the time you knife someone..

They are not invincible. I got shot to death during the animation. You can still "quick knife" but to get the sequences you have to knife like a pro. Quick knife only seems to work for breaking things. I tried to quick knife someone and it did nothing.

Killer_Rubber_Ducky · Aug 8, 2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GullyFoyle

Hmmm..maybe they meant to say "Eliminate enemy squad Leader".

Perhaps they are trying to minimize the "rambo" mode people may get into trying to kill an entire squad. Perhaps they are trying to emphasize Team work.

GullyFoyle · Aug 9, 2011, 01:56 AM

Planet Battlefield - Battlefield 3 Conquest & Jets at Gamescom

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GullyFoyle · Aug 9, 2011, 02:08 AM

arstechnica.com - Editorial: What EA will lose if Battlefield 3 remains off Steam

Spoiler

By Ben Kuchera

Plenty of PC gamers sit down each night without knowing what they want to play. Instead, they log into their Steam accounts, see what other people are playing, then jump into a multiplayer game. In many cases, they buy widely played games simply to be part of the community, or based on positive reviews from friends. Steam isn't just a store, it's also a meeting place. EA may have good reasons for keeping Battlefield 3 away from Valve's service, but the company is still going to lose out in goodwill—and possibly in sales.

Stardock estimated that Steam held 70 percent of the digital distribution market at the end of 2009, and it's likely that estimate remains accurate; what other services have stepped up to chip away at Steam's dominance? Steam is the market leader when it comes to selling PC games online, and gamers are largely comfortable with the service and with their place in it. While many argue that, like EA's own digital distribution service Origin, Steam started out in rough shape and only improved over time, the fact remains that Origin is fighting a service that is rock-solid right now.

Growing pains are over for Valve, and the company has built an amazing amount of goodwill with PC gamers. The facts of the skirmish between EA and Valve are purely secondary at this point; what matters is that PC gamers have many reasons to trust Valve, and just as many reasons to distrust EA. One of these companies gave indie developers a home to sell their games and find success, while the other placed DRM into our vocabulary during Spore's release.

When gamers think of Valve, they remember the last game they bought at deep discount during one of the platform's many sales. They think of all the friends they have on the platform, and the games they've been given or have gifted to others. They meet up with people online to play games because they know people will be on Steam when they want to play.

When gamers think of EA, they remember fighting with redemption codes to get their Dragon Age content or having to set up another account to play a game online. They think of DRM. EA can make well-reasoned arguments about why it won't put up with Valve's DLC requirements all day long and it won't matter: the company has not put in the legwork to make friends with the PC gaming community.

This entire debate can be boiled down to the simple fact that people already use Steam, they like Steam, and they resent being forced to set up an account with another service to play a game. This is especially true when it's a brand-new, untested storefront that's being driven by a company that has given PC gamers every reason to be skeptical. It's unclear if Battlefield 3 will be enough of a draw to make customers forget that fact.

For many gamers, Steam is PC gaming and, while threats of a boycott often seem hollow, in this case it will be as if the game simply doesn't exist for many Steam users.

TheMailMan78 · Aug 9, 2011, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GullyFoyle

arstechnica.com - Editorial: What EA will lose if Battlefield 3 remains off Steam

Spoiler

By Ben Kuchera

Plenty of PC gamers sit down each night without knowing what they want to play. Instead, they log into their Steam accounts, see what other people are playing, then jump into a multiplayer game. In many cases, they buy widely played games simply to be part of the community, or based on positive reviews from friends. Steam isn't just a store, it's also a meeting place. EA may have good reasons for keeping Battlefield 3 away from Valve's service, but the company is still going to lose out in goodwill—and possibly in sales.

Stardock estimated that Steam held 70 percent of the digital distribution market at the end of 2009, and it's likely that estimate remains accurate; what other services have stepped up to chip away at Steam's dominance? Steam is the market leader when it comes to selling PC games online, and gamers are largely comfortable with the service and with their place in it. While many argue that, like EA's own digital distribution service Origin, Steam started out in rough shape and only improved over time, the fact remains that Origin is fighting a service that is rock-solid right now.

Growing pains are over for Valve, and the company has built an amazing amount of goodwill with PC gamers. The facts of the skirmish between EA and Valve are purely secondary at this point; what matters is that PC gamers have many reasons to trust Valve, and just as many reasons to distrust EA. One of these companies gave indie developers a home to sell their games and find success, while the other placed DRM into our vocabulary during Spore's release.

When gamers think of Valve, they remember the last game they bought at deep discount during one of the platform's many sales. They think of all the friends they have on the platform, and the games they've been given or have gifted to others. They meet up with people online to play games because they know people will be on Steam when they want to play.

When gamers think of EA, they remember fighting with redemption codes to get their Dragon Age content or having to set up another account to play a game online. They think of DRM. EA can make well-reasoned arguments about why it won't put up with Valve's DLC requirements all day long and it won't matter: the company has not put in the legwork to make friends with the PC gaming community.

This entire debate can be boiled down to the simple fact that people already use Steam, they like Steam, and they resent being forced to set up an account with another service to play a game. This is especially true when it's a brand-new, untested storefront that's being driven by a company that has given PC gamers every reason to be skeptical. It's unclear if Battlefield 3 will be enough of a draw to make customers forget that fact.

For many gamers, Steam is PC gaming and, while threats of a boycott often seem hollow, in this case it will be as if the game simply doesn't exist for many Steam users.

As much as I would like this to be true I must call bullshit. People are going to FLOOD Origin just to play BF3 despite all the whining and crying. Does it suck? Sure. But I ain't gonna even pretend Ill not install the bullshit just so I can play BF3.....however I wont buy it FROM Origin. I at least have a choice who I take my rape from. At least with Gamestop I have something to show for the violent anal attack. A nice hard copy of the game. Origin will not get my digital bucks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GullyFoyle

arstechnica.com - Editorial: What EA will lose if Battlefield 3 remains off Steam

Spoiler

By Ben Kuchera

Plenty of PC gamers sit down each night without knowing what they want to play. Instead, they log into their Steam accounts, see what other people are playing, then jump into a multiplayer game. In many cases, they buy widely played games simply to be part of the community, or based on positive reviews from friends. Steam isn't just a store, it's also a meeting place. EA may have good reasons for keeping Battlefield 3 away from Valve's service, but the company is still going to lose out in goodwill—and possibly in sales.

Stardock estimated that Steam held 70 percent of the digital distribution market at the end of 2009, and it's likely that estimate remains accurate; what other services have stepped up to chip away at Steam's dominance? Steam is the market leader when it comes to selling PC games online, and gamers are largely comfortable with the service and with their place in it. While many argue that, like EA's own digital distribution service Origin, Steam started out in rough shape and only improved over time, the fact remains that Origin is fighting a service that is rock-solid right now.

Growing pains are over for Valve, and the company has built an amazing amount of goodwill with PC gamers. The facts of the skirmish between EA and Valve are purely secondary at this point; what matters is that PC gamers have many reasons to trust Valve, and just as many reasons to distrust EA. One of these companies gave indie developers a home to sell their games and find success, while the other placed DRM into our vocabulary during Spore's release.

When gamers think of Valve, they remember the last game they bought at deep discount during one of the platform's many sales. They think of all the friends they have on the platform, and the games they've been given or have gifted to others. They meet up with people online to play games because they know people will be on Steam when they want to play.

When gamers think of EA, they remember fighting with redemption codes to get their Dragon Age content or having to set up another account to play a game online. They think of DRM. EA can make well-reasoned arguments about why it won't put up with Valve's DLC requirements all day long and it won't matter: the company has not put in the legwork to make friends with the PC gaming community.

This entire debate can be boiled down to the simple fact that people already use Steam, they like Steam, and they resent being forced to set up an account with another service to play a game. This is especially true when it's a brand-new, untested storefront that's being driven by a company that has given PC gamers every reason to be skeptical. It's unclear if Battlefield 3 will be enough of a draw to make customers forget that fact.

For many gamers, Steam is PC gaming and, while threats of a boycott often seem hollow, in this case it will be as if the game simply doesn't exist for many Steam users.

About F#@KING TIME!

boise49ers · Aug 9, 2011, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Witcher

I still think that they are over-exaggerating when they say that there is no setup/rig that can max it out. Yes the game does look very good and GPU/CPU intensive but still I think GTX 580 SLI and an i7-2600 @ 4.5 can max it out.

You would certainly think so. Man I get tired of getting games I have to keep building around so often. I just got BFBC2 where I can do that with it

I ain't building another rig for awhile. I have 2 descent ones. Just upping GPU power for the next year.

Wrigleyvillain · Aug 9, 2011, 02:36 PM

I agree with MM. The first sentence of that editorial starts off on the wrong foot cause come November I am going to know exactly what I am going to feel like playing when I sit down and it apparently will involve using Origin. Unfortunate, yes. Deal breaker? Not even close.

I already preordered from Amazon anyway.

GullyFoyle · Aug 9, 2011, 03:42 PM

New Battlefield Blog Post: The Battlefield Team Needs You!

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crazyeyesreaper · Aug 9, 2011, 04:44 PM

meh Stockholm onsite location only

CDdude55 · Aug 9, 2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

Fuck Twitter. And Alice came out after both of those games. Its on Steam and there was no problem with it being on there. In fact, I believe it came out later than other retailers as well.

Either way I am getting this game. I want it through Steam, but I will buy it from someone else last minute if I need to.

There are multiple reports of EA confirming it's not coming to Steam, sorry. EA speaking with Kotaku:

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Originally Posted by Kotaku

"Battlefield 3 will not be available on Steam as the service restricts our ability to directly support players," an EA spokesperson told Kotaku. "The service limits our ability to deliver patches and downloadable content directly to players.

http://kotaku.com/5828309/you-cant-b...eld-3-on-steam

As i said, it's still possible, but not likely unless Valve caves in at the last moment. And that is a good point about Alice, forgot that series existed.

1Kurgan1 · Aug 9, 2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by boise49ers

You would certainly think so. Man I get tired of getting games I have to keep building around so often. I just got BFBC2 where I can do that with it

I ain't building another rig for awhile. I have 2 descent ones. Just upping GPU power for the next year.

BC2 came out 1.5 years ago though. Usual rule I go by to play maxed out (or close), is at least a new videocard a year, and a new CPU every other. That is if you are buying the good stuff when you do buy.

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Originally Posted by CDdude55

As i said, it's still possible, but not likely unless Valve caves in at the last moment. And that is a good point about Alice, forgot that series existed.

Wouldn't expect it, there is no reason for them too. Maybe if this was just about BF3, then they would. But EA wants to deliver the patches to games on Steam, which means most likely every single EA game to release from here on out will expect the same. Which yes people will move to Origin to buy these triple A titles like SW:TOR and BF3 that are coming out right now (thats why they chose now to pull this). But maintaining their stance means no games coming to Steam ever, and when Steam sells 70% of PC games, it's a pretty stupid move.

**EDIT**
Perfect example is, I just bought the Indie Bundle #2, and the swaying decision was the fact that it had keys on Steam. I didn't really want to remember that site. A long time ago I won a free copy of Trine from someone on here at some random site (I don't even remember where now). I redeemed it, played it a bit, but I have since forgotten the site as it had nothing else I wanted. Using 2 or 3 popular methods isn't bad, but it just gets to be a lot to remember.

When the games are new, those that are going to buy are going to buy. But once they are older, people are not going to pick up Origin just to get them, I know a ton of people who just got BC2 when it last went on sale. And thats where it's going to hit EA. Most of my over 200 Steam games were bought on sales, and a lot of EA titles are in there.

RuskiSnajper · Aug 9, 2011, 08:16 PM

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/17069-...amescom-booth/

erocker · Aug 9, 2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RuskiSnajper

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/17069-...amescom-booth/

I merged your thread with this one even though I'm sure this information has already been posted here. Please use the search function before creating threads, especially with popular subjects as there will most likely be already a thread on the topic.

TheMailMan78 · Aug 9, 2011, 08:39 PM

I hope they have better jets then that in the game. As my friend said "I wanna fly a muthafucin Raptor!".

_JP_ · Aug 9, 2011, 08:53 PM

A Fishbed?

Is DICE going to release BF3 or BF:V again?

Anyway, I'm eagerly waiting for some jet gameplay footage.

GullyFoyle · Aug 9, 2011, 08:55 PM

Anyone in the Seattle area?

Battlefield 3 at PAX Prime, August 26 - 28, Seattle, WA

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Aug 8, 2011, 12:17 PM	#2305
GullyFoyle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Steeler Country Posts: 145 (0.13/day) Thanks: 118 Thanked 1,289 Times in 537 Posts System Specs	gameranx.com - Battlefield 3 point system revealed Spoiler The scoring system for DICE's Battlefield 3 has been unveiled. The complete Battlefield 3 points system guide shows how many points players will score for a variety of kills, assists, objectives and more. The points system for several parts of the Electronic Arts-published shooter are as follows: Kill points: Kill enemy: 100 points Knife kill: 300 points Comeback kill: 60 points Headshot bonus: +10 points Eliminate enemy squad: +10 points Savior bonus: +20 points Avenger bonus: +10 points Destroy vehicle: 200 points Disable vehicle: 100 points Assist points: Kill assist: from 10 to 60 points Spot assist: 10 points Squad kill assist: from 10 to 60 points Squad spot assist: 20 points Suppressive fire assist: +10 points Squad spawn on you: +10 points M-COM objective points: M-COM arm: 200 points M-COM disarm: 200 points M-COM destroy: 200 points M-COM attack bonus: +20 points M-COM defend bonus: +20 points Support: Revive teammate: 100 points Squad revive: +20 points Squad Spawn on you: 10 points Repair: +20 points Squad repair: +30 points Battlefield 3 is currently scheduled for a release on October 25th, 2011 in North American retailers. The game will release in European territories three days later, which is the 28th for those who can't count.

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random Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,474 (1.45/day) Thanks: 1,248 Thanked 627 Times in 407 Posts System Specs	hooooold up! I cbf reading through 90 pages of this thread, but 300 points for knifing? I hope that is to compensate for the longer time it takes to knife someone in the game due to realistic animations and I hope players are not invincible during the animation either also there is a chance to be countered which further extends the time you knife someone.. __________________ Visit my YouTube Channel ONE OK ROCK 「完全感覚Dreamer」 (Drum Cover) TD9KX

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Aug 9, 2011, 01:56 AM	#2312
GullyFoyle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Steeler Country Posts: 145 (0.13/day) Thanks: 118 Thanked 1,289 Times in 537 Posts System Specs	Planet Battlefield - Battlefield 3 Conquest & Jets at Gamescom Spoiler Monday, 8 August, 2011 at 15:38 PST \| ^Scott^ \| Print News The upcoming German gaming convention, Gamescom is quickly approaching and Battlefield 3 is expected to have a big presence. According to a tweet by DICE's Karl-Magnus Troedsson it looks like we will be seeing some of the first conquest gameplay at Gamescom. There is also a very good chance we will see jets. A video posted by BF-Game.net's Blond3r shows a MiG-21 jet being rolled into the Battlefield 3 booth. Gamescom starts August 17th and runs through the 21st. YouTube link to video

Aug 9, 2011, 02:08 AM	#2313
GullyFoyle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Steeler Country Posts: 145 (0.13/day) Thanks: 118 Thanked 1,289 Times in 537 Posts System Specs	arstechnica.com - Editorial: What EA will lose if Battlefield 3 remains off Steam Spoiler By Ben Kuchera Plenty of PC gamers sit down each night without knowing what they want to play. Instead, they log into their Steam accounts, see what other people are playing, then jump into a multiplayer game. In many cases, they buy widely played games simply to be part of the community, or based on positive reviews from friends. Steam isn't just a store, it's also a meeting place. EA may have good reasons for keeping Battlefield 3 away from Valve's service, but the company is still going to lose out in goodwill—and possibly in sales. Stardock estimated that Steam held 70 percent of the digital distribution market at the end of 2009, and it's likely that estimate remains accurate; what other services have stepped up to chip away at Steam's dominance? Steam is the market leader when it comes to selling PC games online, and gamers are largely comfortable with the service and with their place in it. While many argue that, like EA's own digital distribution service Origin, Steam started out in rough shape and only improved over time, the fact remains that Origin is fighting a service that is rock-solid right now. Growing pains are over for Valve, and the company has built an amazing amount of goodwill with PC gamers. The facts of the skirmish between EA and Valve are purely secondary at this point; what matters is that PC gamers have many reasons to trust Valve, and just as many reasons to distrust EA. One of these companies gave indie developers a home to sell their games and find success, while the other placed DRM into our vocabulary during Spore's release. When gamers think of Valve, they remember the last game they bought at deep discount during one of the platform's many sales. They think of all the friends they have on the platform, and the games they've been given or have gifted to others. They meet up with people online to play games because they know people will be on Steam when they want to play. When gamers think of EA, they remember fighting with redemption codes to get their Dragon Age content or having to set up another account to play a game online. They think of DRM. EA can make well-reasoned arguments about why it won't put up with Valve's DLC requirements all day long and it won't matter: the company has not put in the legwork to make friends with the PC gaming community. This entire debate can be boiled down to the simple fact that people already use Steam, they like Steam, and they resent being forced to set up an account with another service to play a game. This is especially true when it's a brand-new, untested storefront that's being driven by a company that has given PC gamers every reason to be skeptical. It's unclear if Battlefield 3 will be enough of a draw to make customers forget that fact. For many gamers, Steam is PC gaming and, while threats of a boycott often seem hollow, in this case it will be as if the game simply doesn't exist for many Steam users.

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Video Card:	MSI HD 7950 TF3
Hard Disk:	OCZ Agility 3 240GB
Optical Drive:	Asus Blu Ray burner
CRT/LCD Model:	23" Apple Cinema Display HD Aluminum
Case:	Bit Fenix Prodigy (Yang)
PSU:	NZXT Hale82 650W
Software:	Windows 7 x64

Aug 9, 2011, 03:42 PM	#2317
GullyFoyle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Steeler Country Posts: 145 (0.13/day) Thanks: 118 Thanked 1,289 Times in 537 Posts System Specs	New Battlefield Blog Post: The Battlefield Team Needs You! Spoiler BY: zh1nt0 POSTED : Aug 09, 2011, 01:29PM The Battlefield team needs you! 14 QA Testers required for 3 months working on BF3 Although video game testing can be fun and rewarding, it is hard work. We are looking for responsible, dependable candidates who have an eye for detail, great work ethics, excellent verbal and written communications skills, and the ability to work in a team environment. We need people who are able to work a flexible schedule as work days may vary from week to week. There will be overtime opportunities. What skills does DICE look for? Required Skills: - Self starter - Good organisational skills - Strong verbal and written communication skills - Basic to advanced software troubleshooting skills - Ability to remain focused until project completion Desired skills: - Experience and understanding of console or PC game testing - Software troubleshooting If you are looking for an opportunity to contribute to the Imminant Battlefield 3 and work with one of the best teams in the Gaming world please apply to the position with a latest copy of your cv. This role is onsite in Stockholm due to the short nature of the contract we are only considering candidates who can work onsite and are able to come to work without relocation support. We are not considering overseas or remote applications. All applicants should email their CV’s too jobs@dice.se Last edited by GullyFoyle; Aug 9, 2011 at 11:22 PM.

Aug 9, 2011, 04:44 PM	#2318
crazyeyesreaper Chief Broken Rig Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 04578 Posts: 6,036 (3.90/day) Thanks: 767 Thanked 2,270 Times in 1,571 Posts System Specs	meh Stockholm onsite location only

System Name:	Black Box
Processor:	Ivy Bridge 3770K @ 4.6 GHz
Motherboard:	Biostar TZ77XE4
Cooling:	Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro
Memory:	Mushkin Redlines 1866 9-10-9-28-1T 2x4gb (8gb)
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 670 FTW at 1050 base 1179 boost
Hard Disk:	120gb Adata S510 ssd + 5.5 TB storage
Optical Drive:	LG Dual layer sata burner
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung T24A350 1920x1080, Junk Sanyo TV 1440x900
Case:	Fractal Designs Define XL Black Pearl
Sound Card:	onboard
PSU:	Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 1050W 80+ GOLD
Software:	Windows 7 64bit Professional

System Name:	CDdude's Rig!
Processor:	AMD Athlon II X4 620
Motherboard:	Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
Cooling:	Corsair H70
Memory:	8GB Corsair Vengence @1600mhz
Video Card:	XFX HD 6970 2GB
Hard Disk:	OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD/WD Velociraptor 300GB
Optical Drive:	LG DVD ROM drive SATA
CRT/LCD Model:	ASUS VH232H 23" 1920x1080
Case:	Cooler Master CM690 (w/ side window)
Sound Card:	Onboard (It sounds fine)
PSU:	Corsair 850TX
Software:	Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP1

System Name:	My Comp \| Fiancees Comp
Processor:	i7 2600k 5.0Ghz 1.45v\| i3 2100
Motherboard:	AsRock Fatal1ty Pro P67 \| ASRock H61M-GE
Cooling:	Watercooled
Memory:	16GB G.Skill 2133 DDR3 \| 4GB DDR3
Video Card:	2x 7970 WC 1300/1680 + 9800GT \| MSI 5850 OC
Hard Disk:	128gb SSD + 2x 2TB \| WD 500GB
Optical Drive:	DVD-RW \| DVD-RW
CRT/LCD Model:	Asus 27" LCD \| 25" Hanns G
Case:	CM HAF 922 \| CM Elite 430
PSU:	Enermax Galaxy 1250W \| PC&P 750W
Software:	Win 7 x64 \| Win 7 x64

Aug 9, 2011, 08:16 PM	#2321
RuskiSnajper Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: slovenia , europe Posts: 1,435 (0.91/day) Thanks: 146 Thanked 201 Times in 127 Posts System Specs	Battlefield 3 at GamesCom (europe) http://www.neoseeker.com/news/17069-...amescom-booth/

System Name:	My custom machine
Processor:	Intel Core i7 3820
Motherboard:	Asus P9X79
Cooling:	Noctua NH-L12
Memory:	Corsair Vengeance QuadKit 16GB 2133MHz
Video Card:	Sapphire ATI Radeon HD5850 Xtreme
Hard Disk:	Samsung SSD 840 Pro, WD1002FAEX, WD5000AAKS
Optical Drive:	Samsung DVD Writemaster
CRT/LCD Model:	Asus VG278 144Hz
Case:	Cooler Master CM Storm Trooper
Sound Card:	Asus Xonar D1
PSU:	Enermax ELT620AWT Liberty DXX
Software:	Windows 7 x64

Processor:	Intel i7 3770K @ 4.6ghz 1.256v
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus V Formula
Cooling:	Water
Memory:	2x4gb Patriot Viper 2133mhz 10-11-10-25 2T 1.55v
Video Card:	Sapphire HD 7970 1125/1575 1.14v
Hard Disk:	Crucial M4 128Gb / Corsair Force 3 120Gb / Samsung 240Gb / 2Tb Seagate
Optical Drive:	None
CRT/LCD Model:	Acheiva Shimian 27" IPS 2560x1440
Case:	Corsair 500R White
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	NZXT Hale90 1Kw
Software:	Windows 8 x64

Aug 9, 2011, 08:39 PM	#2323
TheMailMan78 Banstick Dummy Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crystal River, FL Posts: 15,142 (6.86/day) Thanks: 1,337 Thanked 6,861 Times in 3,752 Posts System Specs	I hope they have better jets then that in the game. As my friend said "I wanna fly a muthafucin Raptor!".

Aug 9, 2011, 08:53 PM	#2324
_JP_ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Portugal Posts: 2,142 (1.85/day) Thanks: 1,968 Thanked 650 Times in 471 Posts System Specs	A Fishbed? Is DICE going to release BF3 or BF:V again? Anyway, I'm eagerly waiting for some jet gameplay footage.

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Motherboard:	ASRock G41C-GS
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Video Card:	Sapphire ATi Radeon HD 5770 (875/1250)
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CRT/LCD Model:	LG Flatron W2361V 23'' 1080p
Case:	Cooler Master Elite 330 Black
Sound Card:	On-board VIA VT1705 (2.0 speakers)
PSU:	XFX Core Ed. PRO 550W
Software:	Windows 7 x86-64
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Aug 9, 2011, 08:55 PM	#2325
GullyFoyle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Steeler Country Posts: 145 (0.13/day) Thanks: 118 Thanked 1,289 Times in 537 Posts System Specs	Anyone in the Seattle area? Battlefield 3 at PAX Prime, August 26 - 28, Seattle, WA Spoiler Experience Everything. Sacrifice Nothing. Play Fully Loaded. Get yourself “Fully Loaded” to experience this year’s hottest games on the PC! Visit us in the PC Freeplay Area on Level 6 at PAX Prime to experience the unreleased, highly-anticipated game, Battlefield 3, the way it’s meant to be played: On “Fully Loaded” PCs featuring two NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580s in SLI, provided by Maingear. Enter the daily 12v12 single player tournament to win some great prizes – a grand prize winner will be selected each day. These Fully Loaded systems are also available every day for free play so you can polish your tactics. Visit the PC Freeplay Area on Level 6 for details.

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