Battlefield 3 Clubhouse - Page 95

TheLaughingMan · Aug 10, 2011, 01:47 AM

This game will not push hardware as much as EA things. The industry people don't know crap about current tech. hardware is still far ahead of the curve related to the software which is still trying to keep up. The only reason this game will be CPU taxing is because they are going to use old coding techniques that do not take full advantage of new instruction sets or properly optimized DX11 features.

xenocide · Aug 10, 2011, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GullyFoyle

Bingo. The linked article is on NVidia.com. Also, the GDC Fault Line demos ran on a single 580, and looked much better than the alpha.

That was also Single Player which requires less juice since you don't have to continually load characters from other people, and we have no way of knowing what Resolution it was on. Multiplayer with 64-people on a huge map, will be a lot more taxing to a system than a Single Player mission.

ShiBDiB · Aug 10, 2011, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xenocide

That was also Single Player which requires less juice since you don't have to continually load characters from other people, and we have no way of knowing what Resolution it was on. Multiplayer with 64-people on a huge map, will be a lot more taxing to a system than a Single Player mission.

Not really, the engine is the engine. Its either computing and displaying AI or dispaying humans

caleb · Aug 10, 2011, 07:14 AM

Everybody will play medium/low on multi anyway, not cause of FPS but to see better.
I couldn't see anybody with high settings in BF2.
But the first few weeks with high might be cool with the destruction stuff.

1Kurgan1 · Aug 10, 2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by caleb

Everybody will play medium/low on multi anyway, not cause of FPS but to see better.
I couldn't see anybody with high settings in BF2.
But the first few weeks with high might be cool with the destruction stuff.

I don't need low settings to be good, thats for chumps. Played every FPS I have ever owned maxed out, or as high as I could and I will continue to do so.

Boneface · Aug 10, 2011, 12:19 PM

Agreed! built rig for all the eye candy and the gameplay!

helloWorld · Aug 10, 2011, 12:29 PM

Do you guys think I will be alright with 8 GB of RAM, overclocked 2600K, and SLI GTX570s?

boise49ers · Aug 10, 2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Boneface

Agreed! built rig for all the eye candy and the gameplay!

Yeah though the way he plays would be cheaper. I have never tried it though. Like I said in a previous post I'm about through upgrading for awhile except for maybe one more GPU upgrade if I need it for BF3. Man I read the review for that Powercolor 6870 x2. I'd love to spend the extra $150 and get that instead of the 6970. Probably won't happen though. Be lucky to get the 6970.Time to start pumping money back into my Jeep. Getting close to paying off the Federal Trustee after 5 years of a Chapter 13 and I will be able to afford Rock Crawling again.

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Originally Posted by helloWorld

Do you guys think I will be alright with 8 GB of RAM, overclocked 2600K, and SLI GTX570s?

Funny guy ! As long as you aren't looking for world domination you'll be fine.

helloWorld · Aug 10, 2011, 12:41 PM

I wasnt trying to be funny. I was just wondering if I was wasting money for stuff that wouldnt be able to play BF3.

1Kurgan1 · Aug 10, 2011, 12:43 PM

You should be fine, you got a killer setup, and if not, drop down the AA. But at 1920x1080, you should be sitting pretty nicely.

TheLaughingMan · Aug 10, 2011, 01:49 PM

If he can't max the game out in multiplayer, something is wrong with the game.

TheMailMan78 · Aug 10, 2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

If he can't max the game out in multiplayer, something is wrong with the game.

Or something very, VERY right.

Wrigleyvillain · Aug 10, 2011, 03:24 PM

Hmm yes it's all relative lol

CDdude55 · Aug 10, 2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

If he can't max the game out in multiplayer, something is wrong with the game.

That would be terrible, if 2x GTX 570's in SLI can't max the game out, then it's time to patch the game engine up a bit.

TheMailMan78 · Aug 10, 2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CDdude55

That would be terrible, if 2x GTX 570's in SLI can't max the game out, then it's time to patch the game engine up a bit.

Bull shit. I want a game no hardware today can MAX out. Not because of bad coding but because its that epic of eye candy.

Anyway according to DICE they said no hardware today can max out BF3. If thats true I don't know.

CDdude55 · Aug 10, 2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Bull shit. I want a game no hardware today can MAX out. Not because of bad coding but because its that epic of eye candy.

Anyway according to DICE they said no hardware today can max out BF3. If thats true I don't know.

As long as i can play it with most things high or even medium with at least 2xAA (and still have it look great) then im good.

If no hardware is capable of maxing the game out meaning AA/AF all the way up, bloom, DX11(if it even has DX11, which if i recall it does) etc. Then i can deal with that and is more then reasonable.

TheMailMan78 · Aug 10, 2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CDdude55

As long as i can play it with most things high or even medium with at least 2xAA (and still have it look great) then im good.

If no hardware is capable of maxing the game out meaning AA/AF all the way up, bloom, DX11(if it even has DX11, which if i recall it does) etc. Then i can deal with that and is more then reasonable.

The engine is wonderful on medium settings. It blows away most games at that. Having everything balls deep at DX11 making it unplayable today is a good thing. That means it will push GPU and game makers to better themselves.

No one said its the minimum. They already said if you can MAX OUT BC2 then you should be ok on medium settings in BF3. I think thats a fair estimate given its estimated size don't you?

I mean the maps they said are going to be BIGGER THEN BF2! I know you remember how big those were right? Well think about them looking like the Frostbyte 2 engine? Its insane!

CDdude55 · Aug 10, 2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The engine is wonderful on medium settings. It blows away most games at that. Having everything balls deep at DX11 making it unplayable today is a good thing. That means it will push GPU and game makers to better themselves.

No one said its the minimum. They already said if you can MAX OUT BC2 then you should be ok on medium settings in BF3. I think thats a fair estimate given its estimated size don't you?

I mean the maps they said are going to be BIGGER THEN BF2! I know you remember how big those were right? Well think about them looking like the Frostbyte 2 engine? Its insane!

Good points, i agree.

crazyeyesreaper · Aug 10, 2011, 04:23 PM

it better come to steam.... so i can max this bitch and as i rage and shoot ppl with my shotgun of doom...

_JP_ · Aug 10, 2011, 04:31 PM

When is kepler supposed to be unvailed again?

So, BF3 becomes available in September, GTX6xx, HD7xxx and SB-E in December-January and Ivy in March (if all goes well). Yeah, BF3 can afford to be bottlenecked by current hardware, new hardware is on the way.

crazyeyesreaper · Aug 10, 2011, 04:39 PM

the new GPUs from Nvidia and AMD are delayed till sprin 2012, so theres awhile yet before they get released if i remember right its due to foundry issues again.

TheMailMan78 · Aug 10, 2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

the new GPUs from Nvidia and AMD are delayed till sprin 2012, so theres awhile yet before they get released if i remember right its due to foundry issues again.

Tis true. But Nvidia will have a refresh before then. You know the whole 575, 585 kinda thing?

crazyeyesreaper · Aug 10, 2011, 04:53 PM

who cares? new sandybridge rig will be complete and ill just overvolt my 6970s and push them to 1000 core, bring the CPU up to 4.5-5ghz and call it a day lol, nvidia can do all the refreshes they want, as far as i see 400>500 was a refresh a 585 would be a third refresh and kinda fail lol a gtx 580 to 585 would be a 5-7% improvement, oh wait a 580 overclocked does that and then some lolz,

who cares untill the REAL 600 and 7000 series arrive ill push my current hardware to do what must be done... but in order to do that Steam must come through for me, and reward me with a BF3 experience.

TheMailMan78 · Aug 10, 2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

who cares? new sandybridge rig will be complete and ill just overvolt my 6970s and push them to 1000 core, bring the CPU up to 4.5-5ghz and call it a day lol, nvidia can do all the refreshes they want, as far as i see 400>500 was a refresh a 585 would be a third refresh and kinda fail lol a gtx 580 to 585 would be a 5-7% improvement, oh wait a 580 overclocked does that and then some lolz,

who cares untill the REAL 600 and 7000 series arrive ill push my current hardware to do what must be done... but in order to do that Steam must come through for me, and reward me with a BF3 experience.

Oh I agree man. Im just saying I bet there will be a refresh this year for Nvidia thats all.

crazyeyesreaper · Aug 10, 2011, 05:09 PM

oh im sure

just as AMD would do a refresh to counter it haha

6860 6880 6960 6980 LOL

Aug 10, 2011, 01:47 AM	#2351
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Aug 10, 2011, 07:14 AM	#2354
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Aug 10, 2011, 12:19 PM	#2356
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Aug 10, 2011, 12:29 PM	#2357
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Aug 10, 2011, 12:41 PM	#2359
helloWorld Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Posts: 166 (0.22/day) Thanks: 95 Thanked 33 Times in 16 Posts System Specs	I wasnt trying to be funny. I was just wondering if I was wasting money for stuff that wouldnt be able to play BF3.

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crazyeyesreaper Chief Broken Rig Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 04578 Posts: 6,035 (3.90/day) Thanks: 767 Thanked 2,269 Times in 1,570 Posts System Specs	it better come to steam.... so i can max this bitch and as i rage and shoot ppl with my shotgun of doom...

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_JP_ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Portugal Posts: 2,142 (1.85/day) Thanks: 1,968 Thanked 650 Times in 471 Posts System Specs	When is kepler supposed to be unvailed again? So, BF3 becomes available in September, GTX6xx, HD7xxx and SB-E in December-January and Ivy in March (if all goes well). Yeah, BF3 can afford to be bottlenecked by current hardware, new hardware is on the way.

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crazyeyesreaper Chief Broken Rig Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 04578 Posts: 6,035 (3.90/day) Thanks: 767 Thanked 2,269 Times in 1,570 Posts System Specs	the new GPUs from Nvidia and AMD are delayed till sprin 2012, so theres awhile yet before they get released if i remember right its due to foundry issues again.

Aug 10, 2011, 04:53 PM	#2373
crazyeyesreaper Chief Broken Rig Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 04578 Posts: 6,035 (3.90/day) Thanks: 767 Thanked 2,269 Times in 1,570 Posts System Specs	who cares? new sandybridge rig will be complete and ill just overvolt my 6970s and push them to 1000 core, bring the CPU up to 4.5-5ghz and call it a day lol, nvidia can do all the refreshes they want, as far as i see 400>500 was a refresh a 585 would be a third refresh and kinda fail lol a gtx 580 to 585 would be a 5-7% improvement, oh wait a 580 overclocked does that and then some lolz, who cares untill the REAL 600 and 7000 series arrive ill push my current hardware to do what must be done... but in order to do that Steam must come through for me, and reward me with a BF3 experience.

Aug 10, 2011, 05:09 PM	#2375
crazyeyesreaper Chief Broken Rig Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: 04578 Posts: 6,035 (3.90/day) Thanks: 767 Thanked 2,269 Times in 1,570 Posts System Specs	oh im sure just as AMD would do a refresh to counter it haha 6860 6880 6960 6980 LOL

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