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Old May 26, 2011, 05:53 PM   #76
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I kind of agree. I think that a lot of people underestimate the importance of a good cpu for a gaming rig. I'm hoping that after Bulldozer's release we will see some better gaming oriented cpu comparisons.
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Old Aug 10, 2011, 10:27 PM   #77
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This is an excellent thread. Not everyone as shown in this thread upgrades at every generation of new CPUs. Me included see Q6600 LOL

I too got irritated with the low resolution benchmarks initially thinking along similar lines of WTF ID10T is still gaming at those numbers. But when you are really studying you should study all aspects of what your involved with. OK so we don't actually play at those res but if we know we can trick the bench into telling us useful info then we should use it. Put it in the think tank to add with other things we find out such as ways to stress the GPU. Then study each particular game to be played. Some are CPU intensive others are not. Just keep adding all the data together. I never ever base important decisions on one source anyway. Several reviews from different sources is always a good thing. The abnormalities usually show up like a sore thumb and then can be checked in more detail. Basically all erroneous info usually the oddball info you throw out if it cant be substantiated. Just as long as it is honest true factual etc data it can be used to evaluate, compare, and make an analysis. Isn't that what we try to do? We want honest in depth from every angle possible factual information to base our decisions on.

I am getting impatient myself waiting on BD so I recently started thinking about a SB i5 2500k. These are impressive. And I really like the caching thing with the small SSD to a large platter drive. This thread is really right up my ally as to should I wait to see if BD is a winner or not. If I can be patient.

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the age old question, "Do I buy a CPU or a GPU?" If it's an SB CPU then get that 1st then get the GPU later.
Do you still think in my case (Q6600@3.6 and a HD4870) and BD just around the corner I should go SB now? Or get me a couple of 6850s and see what happens with BD before buying the CPU. The idea of BD coming soon has me wanting to get the cards for my new machine but that goes against the answer you give for "Do I buy a CPU or a GPU?"
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Old Aug 10, 2011, 11:23 PM   #78
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Bulldozer will not compete with sandy for gaming. I also doubt that it will be any cheaper than a 2500k. On the other hand I kind of doubt that your Q6600 is holding back your 4870.

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I am loving the new system. Performance increase is phenomenal in the toughest games (GTA IV, Crysis 2, Witcher 2, Gothic 4 etc). No more hitching either (had hitching in above games including Crysis 2 after the high resolution textures). Games remain pegged in terms of framerates and overall really feel that I was seriously bottlenecked w/ a Q6600. You can only know when you upgrade.
This is what a user on another forum said about his upgrade from Q6600 to an i5 2500k. He was using a single 6950 as well.

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Old Aug 10, 2011, 11:35 PM   #79
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Do you still think in my case (Q6600@3.6 and a HD4870) and BD just around the corner I should go SB now? Or get me a couple of 6850s and see what happens with BD before buying the CPU. The idea of BD coming soon has me wanting to get the cards for my new machine but that goes against the answer you give for "Do I buy a CPU or a GPU?"
To be fair that was posted back in May. I haven't been keeping up with BD news. Is there a release date set for BD yet?
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Bulldozer will not compete with sandy for gaming. I also doubt that it will be any cheaper than a 2500k. On the other hand I kind of doubt that your Q6600 is holding back your 4870.
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To be fair that was posted back in May. I haven't been keeping up with BD news but is there a release date set for BD yet?
Sep 19th isnt it?
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Old Aug 10, 2011, 11:39 PM   #81
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Do you really think that its going to compete in single or even quad threaded apps like games? Sure its going to be an amazing workstation chip but I wouldn't hold my breath for it being faster than Sandy in gaming.
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If that's true then he should wait until the 19th to see how things pan out for performance and prices for either SB or BD.
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Do you really think that its going to compete in single or even quad threaded apps like games? Sure its going to be an amazing workstation chip but I wouldn't hold my breath for it being faster than Sandy in gaming.
Well from the stock clocks ive seen and with turbo boosting 4 cores up to 4.5GHz then yes i think they will, but im saying this only for people that dont over clock, and at those speeds i know i wouldnt be.
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Well from the stock clocks ive seen and with turbo boosting 4 cores up to 4.5GHz then yes i think they will, but im saying this only for people that dont over clock, and at those speeds i know i wouldnt be.
You make a really good point there. It should be an interesting launch.

I'm just hoping that with this launch someone gets around to doing a good gaming oriented cpu review. There really aren't any out there with sandy or current video cards.
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If that's true then he should wait until the 19th to see how things pan out for performance and prices for either SB or BD.
Yes I understand the time difference. That is my issue.
So do you think picking up my video cards now would be the better choice? Now that we are fairly close we hope to getting some info on BD.
I realize a Q6600 isn't going to be much pumpkin but it would just be till the CPU decision with BD.
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Yes I understand the time difference. That is my issue.
So do you think picking up my video cards now would be the better choice? Now that we are fairly close we hope to getting some info on BD.
I realize a Q6600 isn't going to be much pumpkin but it would just be till the CPU decision with BD.
From what I've last read AMD plans on releasing the 7000 before end of year. So you should hold off on the new video card as well. Regardless if you go SB or BD you will notice an improvement from a Q6000 OC or not.
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From what I've last read AMD plans on releasing the 7000 before end of year. So you should hold off on the new video card as well. Regardless if you go SB or BD you will notice an improvement from a Q6000 OC or not.
I went ahead and picked up a XFX6950 for now I needed a fix I was bored. I always end up with "old" hardware. Nothing new here.
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I went ahead and picked up a XFX6950 for now I needed a fix I was bored. I always end up with "old" hardware. Nothing new here.
There's nothing "old" about a 6950. They are still very relevant, and amazing.
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There's nothing "old" about a 6950. They are still very relevant, and amazing.
No I was implying in just a few months when the 7000 series hits the market it would seem that way. I'm never all on current hardware though at best a couple of key components will always be 1 generation if not 2 gen behind. As long as it gets the job done Ill deal with it.

I hope its not old right now today I just bought it.
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No I was implying in just a few months when the 7000 series hits the market it would seem that way. I'm never all on current hardware though at best a couple of key components will always be 1 generation if not 2 gen behind. As long as it gets the job done Ill deal with it.

I hope its not old right now today I just bought it.
From what I've heard the 7k series is not just a few months away. It's more like 6 months away minimum.
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Q6600 FTW!! i still love mine.

I do agree I wish in reviews they had some older cpus to compare on
The first chip I managed to kill was a Q6600.

But it had a 1.3125 VID so it deserved it.
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This thread is great. I thought that I might have erred by getting an H61 board and a locked Core i5 but if the Q9650 can hold it's own even today I think that this setup will serve me well for years and when it's actually obsolete it'll make a good replacement for my current HTPC.
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when the first i7 was released i looked at the performance numbers compared to my old Q9550 and thought... well this is it... we are definatly into the realms of diminishing gains....

i honestly didnt think i would get that massive increase in performance from a chipset upgrade for the next few years... then sandy bridge came out...

i upgraded and i can not believe the differance... in BF3 i immediatly thought...wow!!!

every game just feels more fluid than anything i have seen before... its impressive...

definatly worth upgrading...

if you go z68 you can buy a 20gb ssd and enable SRT... i have a 60gb force gt on the way to test, thats meant to be an excellent feature....
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