Sandy Bridge-E Won't Pack Stock Coolers, Intel to Sell them Separately

[btarunr]

Intel's upcoming Core i7 processors in the LGA2011 package, codenamed "Sandy Bridge-E," will come in a unique package that's completely different from what's being reported as AMD's, in which self-contained liquid CPU coolers will be bundled with some FX-series processors. Intel's upcoming Core i7-3820, Core i7-3930K and the Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition processor boxes will lack Intel's certified (stock) heatsink-fan (HSF). Instead, Intel plans to sell the certified coolers separately, probably having the same market reach and availability as the processors themselves.

The idea behind this is that the target users of Sandy Bridge-E will most likely use third-party cooling solutions. Hence it makes sense to save them of a chunk of metal they'll probably never use. For those who do use stock cooling, seldom/never overclock, and rely on the Intel certification to go with the cooler, Intel will have the certified cooler available separately for purchase, with its retail partners. Sandy Bridge-E processors have a rated TDP of 130W, though tests by those having access to engineering samples have shown that it can reach as much as 180W on load, even without overclocking. It is expected that PC cooling products manufacturers will have entire lines of LGA2011-ready coolers in time for the launch of Sandy Bridge-E.



Source: VR-Zone

[63jax]

180W

[LAN_deRf_HA]

That's what they get for sticking to 32nm on the E chip. I wonder if the 22nm parts will clock better, maybe make up for the decreased cache.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA

That's what they get for sticking to 32nm on the E chip. I wonder if the 22nm parts will clock better, maybe make up for the decreased cache.

22nm is not ready yet I think, they will probably do a shrink like IvyBridge.

[cheesy999]

does this mean for once it'll be AMD with the more efficient proccesor?

or does it mean these will be really fast?

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by cheesy999

does this mean for once it'll be AMD with the more efficient proccesor?

or does it mean these will be really fast?

Highly unlikely. If you look at the old 9xx they were massive power hogs, but absolutely destroyed all competition.

[fullinfusion]

Intel thinks up and scheam to rape there customers every chance they get hmmm...
And the price difference for cpu only? is going to be no difference, but for the poor guy that wants the cooler I betcha Intel charge $60 bucks or so for there cheapo cooler

[Melvis]

lol isnt this a good thing? Intel heatsinks SUCKED, most people pushed the stock heatsink to the side and put an aftermarket one anyway. So this would therefore bring down the price (by a little bit) for these new CPU's? since there wont be any heatsink?

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by Melvis

lol isnt this a good thing? Intel heatsinks SUCKED, most people pushed the stock heatsink to the side and put an aftermarket one anyway. So this would therefore bring down the price (by a little bit) for these new CPU's? since there wont be any heatsink?

Ah, but then Intel is going to sell the CPUs at same price with no heatsink. Tbh the Sandy Bridge heatsinks are good, even for light overclocking.

[Melvis]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Ah, but then Intel is going to sell the CPUs at same price with no heatsink. Tbh the Sandy Bridge heatsinks are good, even for light overclocking.

Yea that wouldnt surprise me at all, then charge $50 for a heatsink if you want it? And yes i agree the sandybridge heatsinks seem to be better, or is it that the CPU just runs cooler?

[Tatty_One]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Ah, but then Intel is going to sell the CPUs at same price with no heatsink. Tbh the Sandy Bridge heatsinks are good, even for light overclocking.

You don't know that, for me, choice is good and this gives me more choice, if I felt however, like you assume that they were charging more for less or the "optional" HSF was at rip off prices (if they were noone would buy them anyways as there will always be a cheaper 3rd party alternative) then I would jump ship fast.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

You don't know that, for me, choice is good and this gives me more choice, if I felt however, like you assume that they were charging more for less or the "optional" HSF was at rip off prices (if they were noone would buy them anyways as there will always be a cheaper 3rd party alternative) then I would jump ship fast.

Yes, you do get more choices, but based on past marketing practices, Intel is going to price things with a nice "round number" ending with 9 or 99. This makes me suspicious, especially with the top of the range $999 price bracket. They are not going to reduce to $989 just because they took away the heatsink methinks.

[ensabrenoir]

This is an extreme ......execuse me intel extreme edition cpu. Who at this level is concerned about Power consumption or uses stock hsf? U don't buy a lambo and complain about gas milage or the cost of tires.

[Red_Machine]

Why only 1.6GHz? Even for an engineering sample, that's pretty slow.

[TheMailMan78]

Now most people who will buy this CPU will be OC this thing like a bitch. So them not shipping a cooler with it IS NOT a big deal. They know most HSF wont even leave the original box.

With that being said they will be charging top tier prices for these things. If they didn't offer a cooler I would be ok with this decision. However they will be. So in essence they are charging adopters of this CPU to pay twice which I think is bullshit.

I say ship it without a cooler ok. But don't come back and offer a cooler for an extra price. Just leave it to the third party distributors. This is just a greed manuver......which I can respect, I just dont like being on the receiving end.

[TheLaughingMan]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835203004

It will be a version of that if they are just going to sell the certified cooler separately.

[Hotobu]

I was just saying in the AMD thread that they need to do this. A lot of folks don't use these damned things anyway. Of course the only way to know if things are discounted is if they offer a package together with the heatsink, but I still like this. It saves on waste both on the manufacturing and shipping end.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835203004

It will be a version of that if they are just going to sell the certified cooler separately.

I like it. IMO if they wanna save money and waste then don't ship a HSF. But don't sell a HSF separate. Leave it to the third party ONLY. Whats next? Selling a CPU but the pins separate??

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I like it. IMO if they wanna save money and waste then don't ship a HSF. But don't sell a HSF separate. Leave it to the third party ONLY. Whats next? Selling a CPU but the pins separate??

I thought they already did that with LGA. Isn't that why Intel boards are more expensive?

[ensabrenoir]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I like it. IMO if they wanna save money and waste then don't ship a HSF. But don't sell a HSF separate. Leave it to the third party ONLY. Whats next? Selling a CPU but the pins separate??

Theyv shifted the cost of the cpu pins to the board makers and
To get a better mounting system than intel's pushpins...... yeah i'd pay extra

[cadaveca]

All i know is that I have these:




and only have them because there is heatsinks in them.


I'll never use a stock cooler...as far as I am concerned, no CPU should come with a cooler, not even entry-level ones, and prices should be lowered accordingly without an included heatsink.


I'm all for keeping the metal outta the box, and saving some resources. I'm not even too concerned about paying the same price, with no heatsink, TBH...

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

I thought they already did that with LGA. Isn't that why Intel boards are more expensive?

Originally Posted by ensabrenoir

Theyv shifted the cost of the cpu pins to the board makers and
To get a better mounting system than intel's pushpins...... yeah i'd pay extra

You peoples sarcasm detectors are broken today I see.

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

You peoples sarcasm detectors are broken today I see.

Cough*bullshit*cough.

[ensabrenoir]

and only have them because there is heatsinks in them



Nice collection. I eneded up taking the cover off my dead hdd and made post modern wall art with them but havenkt come up with any uses for hsf other than recycling.




















Pp

[Jegergrim]

I think it's a brilliant idea, worst case scenario we pay the same price as if with the HSF, best case scenario we save some cash to spend on anything else in the new rig, all in all a win-win situation. Saying this with overclockers and enthusiasts in mind