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Old Aug 21, 2011, 09:35 PM   #10926
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That's why so many Freemen are getting away with not paying it. Good on them! If only I had the time

Personally, I'd rather have the adverts every 20 minutes rather than paying for the TV licence, but that's just me.



Then you are off topic talking about cars!

If it's a Peugeot - get ready for loads of problems
It is a Peugeot 206 an 04 plate lol.
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It is a Peugeot 206 an 04 plate lol.
Not good. Sell it or get ready for a whole host of problems. There's still loads of debate over what the problem actually is with them. Some people say it's one of the stepper motors, some say it's the ECU, some people will even tell you it's the HT leads.
I spent over £150 on engine diagnoses to be told "it's this" only to spend £100 on a stepper motor and the problem's still there. I then got told "it's the ECU" so I just gave it to my Dad.
He managed to get hold of an ECU for cheap, replaced it and still wasn't running fine.

Honestly mate, my advice is to sell it and stay away from French motors.

I hit the forums to try and find out what it could be, but everyone was just arguing over what it is. It was about a year ago I last checked the forums.
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Not good. Sell it or get ready for a whole host of problems. There's still loads of debate over what the problem actually is with them. Some people say it's one of the stepper motors, some say it's the ECU, some people will even tell you it's the HT leads.
I spent over £150 on engine diagnoses to be told "it's this" only to spend £100 on a stepper motor and the problem's still there. I then got told "it's the ECU" so I just gave it to my Dad.
He managed to get hold of an ECU for cheap, replaced it and still wasn't running fine.

Honestly mate, my advice is to sell it and stay away from French motors.

I hit the forums to try and find out what it could be, but everyone was just arguing over what it is. It was about a year ago I last checked the forums.
The car has never had problems really apart from the engine warning light now which has been the same constant message lol,i'm waiting for a free diagnosis from a friend.
So your opinion is to get rid of it and get a different car?? I would want to do that but because of price of insurance and tight on money its very unlikely my parents would allow it.
But it is a possibility right now,just have to wait until my insurance renewal in December.
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The car has never had problems really apart from the engine warning light now which has been the same constant message lol,i'm waiting for a free diagnosis from a friend.
So your opinion is to get rid of it and get a different car?? I would want to do that but because of price of insurance and tight on money its very unlikely my parents would allow it.
But it is a possibility right now,just have to wait until my insurance renewal in December.
better off with a renault or a honda or something. even a golf is good
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better off with a renault or a honda or something. even a golf is good
Lol you do realise a Renault is french too.
To be perfectly honest i want a change of car,all my friends have Civic,golf,astra,mazda3.
I don't want copy them lol,i am considering a Ford focus atm but i can't think of any other cars.
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Anything either German or English. German stuff for being reliable, or English for easy-to-source parts. But tbh, if you rag it, it doesn't matter what you get - it will die.
I would go for an Astra, a Corsa, or a Focus. Even a Fiesta. I like Astra's (loads of room in the back considering it's a relatively cheap motor)
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The car has never had problems really apart from the engine warning light now which has been the same constant message lol,i'm waiting for a free diagnosis from a friend.
So your opinion is to get rid of it and get a different car?? I would want to do that but because of price of insurance and tight on money its very unlikely my parents would allow it.
But it is a possibility right now,just have to wait until my insurance renewal in December.
Oh shit man, I had a 206 (admittedly it was an s Reg) and it had a whole load of problems including the good old warning light!

Get shot of it quick snap. Don't get Renault either, peugeot and renault share loads of parts.
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Oh shit man, I had a 206 (admittedly it was an s Reg) and it had a whole load of problems including the good old warning light!

Get shot of it quick snap. Don't get Renault either, peugeot and renault share loads of parts.
I had an S reg, my little brother had an '02 (I think). Both had the same problems, my lil bro wrote his off in a crash though. I managed to learn how to do everything without letting the engine idle like kept pushing the throttle while left-foot braking coming up to traffic lights etc. (the engine would die as soon as it was allowed to idle - but with the foot on throttle it was fine)
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Lol you do realise a Renault is french too.
To be perfectly honest i want a change of car,all my friends have Civic,golf,astra,mazda3.
I don't want copy them lol,i am considering a Ford focus atm but i can't think of any other cars.
i know they are french, my dad had a volvo with a renault engine which had done 200,000km, that thing was running smoothly and still had plenty grunt...
did 4hr with pedal to the metal in that car, and it was perfectly fine...

if you can afford the insurance get an old BMW, they are like fricken steel and are so well constucted...
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Well i will probably get an american or german or japanese car lol.
But i don't want copy people and i am pretty stingy on engine too i want upgrade to a 1.4 if it has bhp of 90 or something,but 1.6 seems sweet spot.
Either way getting a 1.4 or 1.6 insurance is about 2300-2500 for any like astra,civic,mazda3,golf etc.
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Either way getting a 1.4 or 1.6 insurance is about 2300-2500 for any like astra,civic,mazda3,golf etc.
Just by putting my Dad on my insurance policy, and having him as the policy holder, it halved my insurance costs. The only sacrifice is you won't get any no claims as a named driver, unless you're with Directline.
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2000 on a 1.4 Toyota Auris VVTi TR2 for insurance hmm...not very far off my 206 insurance renewal with my mods declared which is 1700 lol.
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w00t for old age, 30 year old, newly passed driver 1.4 astra fully comp insurance with business and breakdown etc etc £1100
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w00t for old age, 30 year old, newly passed driver 1.4 astra fully comp insurance with business and breakdown etc etc £1100
thats me as main driver and getting no claims
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Anything either German or English. German stuff for being reliable, or English for easy-to-source parts. But tbh, if you rag it, it doesn't matter what you get - it will die.
I would go for an Astra, a Corsa, or a Focus. Even a Fiesta. I like Astra's (loads of room in the back considering it's a relatively cheap motor)
Or wait for MightyMission to come in and school us proper
Wait what do you mean English, the English dont have a car brand anymore since MGRover and that became foreign.
EDIT: I lie Vauxhall is British but thats about it, Astra is a nice car for day to day but id get a Ford Focus first.
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Wait what do you mean English, the English dont have a car brand anymore since MGRover and that became foreign.
EDIT: I lie Vauxhall is British but thats about it, Astra is a nice car for day to day but id get a Ford Focus first.
Yes I know that; but my point is; Ford, MG and Vauxhall parts are much cheaper and easier to get hold of than any others. Down here anyway.
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Only in liverpool.


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(and if you dont understand the joke then maybe you watch more weakest link)
lol I don't watch that sh*t! I'm more of a QI man

I'm guessing it's something to do with scousers and their "five-finger discount?"
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Gutted!
i wrote out a long post about motors then scouse jokes and the computer messed up!!

Lotus:it's citreon that shares the parts bin with pug not renault.
kuro:throw £120 at the car to do the brakes and lambda then jog it on(or be sneaky and turn the ignition one click and hold the button for a minute till the dash flashes,error is reset),get a focus or fester and enjoy winning.Those hyundai i30 etc are well cheap brand new and you are covered by 3 years warranty,my mate bought one with this simple logic:
anything goes wrong,hyundia cover it,you pay the same for higher marque used cars and get no warranty...
older golfs were ok,but the newer ones ('97 on)came with electronic power steering and it's absolute shite! it feels like a deathtrap,theres no feedback at all,no progression and an odd setup to the pedals,throttle being lower than brakes/clutch.
ofcourse the a3 is the same,i've owned both and would only recommend them to women...

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i wrote out a long post about motors then scouse jokes and the computer messed up!!

Lotus:it's citreon that shares the parts bin with pug not renault.
kuro:throw £120 at the car to do the brakes and lambda then jog it on(or be sneaky and turn the ignition one click and hold the button for a minute till the dash flashes,error is reset),get a focus or fester and enjoy winning.Those hyundai i30 etc are well cheap brand new and you are covered by 3 years warranty,my mate bought one with this simple logic:
anything goes wrong,hyundia cover it,you pay the same for higher marque used cars and get no warranty...
older golfs were ok,but the newer ones ('97 on)came with electronic power steering and it's absolute shite! it feels like a deathtrap,theres no feedback at all,no progression and an odd setup to the pedals,throttle being lower than brakes/clutch.
ofcourse the a3 is the same,i've owned both and would only recommend them to women...
Hold what button?? lol
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