Bulldozer Information Thread.

[repman244]

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AMD Opteron 6276 OS6276WKTGGGU 2.3GHz 16-Core Server CPU


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[fullinfusion]

is it out yet? Bulldozer

[JF-AMD]

All benchmarks that show up before launch will not be representative of actual performance.

Period.

And, I don't believe the Gigabyte data is completely accurate.

[qubit]

Originally Posted by JF-AMD

All benchmarks that show up before launch will not be representative of actual performance.

Period.

And, I don't believe the Gigabyte data is completely accurate.

Thanks - I knew all that speculation was BS.

So when exactly, will Bulldozer be out?

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by JF-AMD

All benchmarks that show up before launch will not be representative of actual performance.

Period.

And, I don't believe the Gigabyte data is completely accurate.

It's just sad that no matter how many forums you visit, and how many times you say it, there will still be a million people that refuse to listen.

[fullinfusion]

Originally Posted by JF-AMD

All benchmarks that show up before launch will not be representative of actual performance.

Period.

And, I don't believe the Gigabyte data is completely accurate.

It be nice to have some true marks B4 the Launch to show the public whats WHAT! Ya dig whatm saying?

Better be worth the wait! that's all I'm sayin

[happita]

We love you JF-AMD. Mainly because you put most of our feelings at ease. I've been so tired of hearing all of this speculation and seeing all these useless projected performance charts...yes I'm looking at you seronx.
Speculating isn't a bad thing, but it usually gets out of hand here because people don't have anything else better to talk about. So what do they do, they start yet another Bulldozer thread to see who else will throw their 2 cents in.
THANK YOU JF-AMD!!

[fullinfusion]

Originally Posted by happita

We love you JF-AMD. Mainly because you put most of our feelings at ease. I've been so tired of hearing all of this speculation and seeing all these useless projected performance charts...yes I'm looking at you seronx.
Speculating isn't a bad thing, but it usually gets out of hand here because people don't have anything else better to talk about. So what do they do, they start yet another Bulldozer thread to see who else will throw their 2 cents in.
THANK YOU JF-AMD!!

Have you actually read all of Seronx posts? He makes sence at times.... But time will tell.

[happita]

Originally Posted by fullinfusion

Have you actually read all of Seronx posts? He makes sence at times.... But time will tell.

Ok, the majority of his posts is just fud. Case and point, I will point out a few that are just complete nonesense and based on NOTHING concrete.

Post #5

Originally Posted by seronx

Most likely out perform Intel options till Skylake

Bulldozer generations ahead of Intel

Post #11

Originally Posted by seronx

Bulldozer is a interesting architecture which many people are confused on...

Alot of people say it will increase multithreaded performance but that is indeed wrong as when both cores are used in a module the effective clock is halved(Reverse of Netburst, where Netburst had a double effective clock Bulldozer has a half effective clock)

To make up for this performance drop they increased the cores performance to some degree

My point is that when things like these are posted, no matter who it's from, are all baseless claims and/or an opinion. There is no concrete evidence to prove that these are facts, and no sources either.

[OneMoar]

meh buying ES/server chips is such a waste of $

[fullinfusion]

Originally Posted by happita

Ok, the majority of his posts is just fud. Case and point, I will point out a few that are just complete nonesense and based on NOTHING concrete.

Post #5


Post #11




My point is that when things like these are posted, no matter who it's from, are all baseless claims and/or an opinion. There is no concrete evidence to prove that these are facts, and no sources either.

Umm Ok I hear ya!

Originally Posted by OneMoar

meh buying ES/server chips is such a waste of $

Did you get one? then you know what to do

[seronx]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

meh buying ES/server chips is such a waste of $

OS means its a Retail Sample
ZS means its a Engineer Sample

1130 supposedly means -> 30th Week of 2011

For $1000~(Only buy from official venders you hear ;D)

It will sell like hotcakes

As the competing server CPU from intel is $3000-$6000

Originally Posted by happita

Ok, the majority of his posts is just fud. Case and point, I will point out a few that are just complete nonesense and based on NOTHING concrete.

Not so sure about this one but my understanding is "Bulldozer" has been winning a lot of Linux based application benchmarks, and only on the Windows side does it show "Bulldozer" performing badly

[OneMoar]

good luck finding a consumer usable board that supports a chip thats not even released yet

[seronx]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

good luck finding a consumer usable board that supports a chip thats not even released yet

G34, C32 and AM3+ all support Bulldozer with a BIOS chip update

and certain AM3 chips can support Bulldozer but to how much is to be validated

Zambezi is so hard to type these days

[billcat479]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

It's just sad that no matter how many forums you visit, and how many times you say it, there will still be a million people that refuse to listen.

This is what I love to call the magic of illusion. Or propaganda or what ever bias we run into day to day. You hit the nail on the head.

I would give the info I saw on Tom's hardware about gigabytes information as about as accurate as you'll find. They are not giving any performance data, or have anything to gain or loose.
Just numbers that have to do with their products compatibility. No more, no less. I can't see why this should cause any problems other than problems people create for themselves of for the same of making noise... If true it's deplorable.
The release date is close and motherboard mfg's have been in closer contact with AMD and have had this kind of information for a while now. To design the FX compatible motherboard/chipset so if it was released by Gigabyte or if it was ASUS or MSI. there is absolutely no reason to doubt the information.
Tom's hardware usually is pretty good about confirmation before printing but as I don't work there I can only go by experience with their data which is usually fairly accurate in this kind of stuff.

[OneMoar]

not what a I ment
show me one consumer grade LGA socket board
show me something I can stuff in a ATX case and use a ATX psu

[seronx]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

not what a I ment
show me one consumer grade LGA socket board
show me something I can stuff in a ATX case and use a ATX psu

SUPERMICRO MBD-H8SGL-F-O ATX Server Motherboard So...

It's not consumer grade but it is a ATX class motherboard

[thunderising]

Originally Posted by qubit

Thanks - I knew all that speculation was BS.

So when exactly, will Bulldozer be out?

19th september

[JF-AMD]

Originally Posted by seronx

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6088/...d8a9ea6a_b.jpg

OS means its a Retail Sample
ZS means its a Engineer Sample

1130 supposedly means -> 30th Week of 2011

For $1000~(Only buy from official venders you hear ;D)

It will sell like hotcakes

As the competing server CPU from intel is $3000-$6000



Not so sure about this one but my understanding is "Bulldozer" has been winning a lot of Linux based application benchmarks, and only on the Windows side does it show "Bulldozer" performing badly

OS does not mean retail sample.

If 1130 is referring to a date then it is pointing to a date in mid july.

I am 99% sure that this is not a real processor. Please buy one from him and let me know.

[ensabrenoir]

Originally Posted by thunderising

19th september

Is this the official amd stamped, certified unless something unforseen happens date? Or estimated. Totally ready for some facts.

[heky]

JF-AMD should know exactely when they are launched!(FX chips)

[repman244]

Originally Posted by heky

JF-AMD should know exactely when they are launched!(FX chips)

He works for the server department.

[heky]

So what? Are you saying that becouse he works for the server department, he doesnt know the official release date. Come on...

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by billcat479

This is what I love to call the magic of illusion. Or propaganda or what ever bias we run into day to day. You hit the nail on the head.

I would give the info I saw on Tom's hardware about gigabytes information as about as accurate as you'll find. They are not giving any performance data, or have anything to gain or loose.
Just numbers that have to do with their products compatibility. No more, no less. I can't see why this should cause any problems other than problems people create for themselves of for the same of making noise... If true it's deplorable.
The release date is close and motherboard mfg's have been in closer contact with AMD and have had this kind of information for a while now. To design the FX compatible motherboard/chipset so if it was released by Gigabyte or if it was ASUS or MSI. there is absolutely no reason to doubt the information.
Tom's hardware usually is pretty good about confirmation before printing but as I don't work there I can only go by experience with their data which is usually fairly accurate in this kind of stuff.

The only problem I can see with the Gigabyte chart is time. I believe they are on the F5 bios already so this could be an older chart. I don't believe at all that it was ever made to spread disinformation though.

[repman244]

Originally Posted by heky

So what? Are you saying that becouse he works for the server department, he doesnt know the official release date. Come on...

Yes.
The same way the desktop team has no idea what's going on with the server department.