Bulldozer Information Thread.

[brandonwh64]

I want to see 24/7 clocks on air and water then benches to show performance against intel.

[linoliveira]

i hope they pull some RL numbers tonight

Even time.com has a piece on this - http://techland.time.com/2011/09/13/...cpu-overclock/

[JF-AMD]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

I guess time will tell how things pan out. Not like I think there will be alot of LN2 results that will interest me personally anyway. Let me see what I can get 24/7, and the improvements there, and I can sell these chips to all the BMW and Porche drivers that I like to call my neighbours.


Selling chips to broke overclockers is silly. You want to sell them to those with cash, and anyone that i know that has cash to throw around isn't gonna be running LN2 or LHe.

Like, I'm sorry, but that's the truth! There's a very good reason you don't see a lot of LN2 clockers here, and it has NOTHING to do with me or my personal opinion!

To be honest, for me, the only thing interesting in those vids, and the event, was Macci. I don't care what anyone else think...HE is THE oc legend. I mean, chew* is great, but he's said he's leaving the scene after Bulldozer launch, and he's the one with all the info, seemingly. I am loath to trust someone who's already announced thier departure in such a fashion.

Couldn't agree more. I am not an overclocker so I don't really understand that market. As a matter of fact, why should we even bother to compare it to an i7 980 or 990? Nobody really buys those parts either.

I would love a mainstream shoot out that compares what people really buy in ways that people actual use them. But then people would call me crazy.

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by JF-AMD

Couldn't agree more. I am not an overclocker so I don't really understand that market. As a matter of fact, why should we even bother to compare it to an i7 980 or 990? Nobody really buys those parts either.

I would love a mainstream shoot out that compares what people really buy in ways that people actual use them. But then people would call me crazy.

ill say one thing Air Force buys HPs with AMD Athlon II X2-X4s in them for everyday use.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by JF-AMD

But then people would call me crazy.

I dunno, I know at least some people will listen.


Heck, my ASUS M5A board reviews are the perfect example. I told ASUS to give me what would be the highest seller, not the top dog. They sent me two. Guess which reviews of mine are the most popular?

I'm sorry I'm likely gonna miss the launch.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by JF-AMD

Couldn't agree more. I am not an overclocker so I don't really understand that market. As a matter of fact, why should we even bother to compare it to an i7 980 or 990? Nobody really buys those parts either.

I would love a mainstream shoot out that compares what people really buy in ways that people actual use them. But then people would call me crazy.

I like to call it reality. The difference between 190fps vs 140fps is still OVER 100 FPS! I've been done with the whole this processor vs that processor debate for some time now. Just give me a good quick STABLE chip at a good price.

[repman244]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The difference between 190fps vs 140fps is still OVER 100 FPS!

What am I missing here

[JF-AMD]

Originally Posted by repman244

What am I missing here

Probably about 50 frames

[repman244]

Originally Posted by JF-AMD

Probably about 50 frames

Well I know that, but that 100 more thing is confusing me. But then again it's TheMailMan78 so everything is confusing

[Goodman]

I guess the NDA will end in 1-2weeks from now & we will finally see some bencharks on how it's perform... maybe?

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by repman244

What am I missing here

The CPU bottleneck. You know the one between Intel and AMD? Yeah I went with the cheaper CPU because both brands were getting way more the my monitor could display.

[bucketface]

Originally Posted by JF-AMD

I would love a mainstream shoot out that compares what people really buy in ways that people actual use them. But then people would call me crazy.

what you mean actually testing similarly priced products in usage scenarios that consist of web browsing, audio/video encoding, gaming and other common tasks individually and then combined all at the same time (because maybe i want to encode something and play a game and maybe check TPU all at the same time). Not wasting time testing super pi, vantage, all other benchmark programs.
maybe even do a stock clocks comparison + OC'd to 4Ghz + max OC just for the hell of it.
yeah your crazy
i would really love to see a i5 2500k and Fx 8120 compared in this way.

[PolRoger]

Originally Posted by JF-AMD

Couldn't agree more. I am not an overclocker so I don't really understand that market. As a matter of fact, why should we even bother to compare it to an i7 980 or 990? Nobody really buys those parts either.

I would love a mainstream shoot out that compares what people really buy in ways that people actual use them. But then people would call me crazy.

Your right the Intel EE sku (980X/990X etc.) are for the most part cost prohibitive... good mainstream performance and good overclockability is the sweet spot. Now if BD can just be competive with Intel's 2500K/2600K? I'm looking forward to more info being released in the days ahead!

[animal007uk]

Originally Posted by repman244

What am I missing here

Means who cares if its 190fps or 140fps, its still running over 100 fps. Well thats how i understood it.

[repman244]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The CPU bottleneck. You know the one between Intel and AMD? Yeah I went with the cheaper CPU because both brands were getting way more the my monitor could display.

Eh, my brain was stuck in a loop there.

I was in the same situation last year, I honestly don't care about brand so I went what was cheaper but still offered nice performance and a lot of features for the price.

[CDdude55]

Originally Posted by JF-AMD

I would love a mainstream shoot out that compares what people really buy in ways that people actual use them. But then people would call me crazy.

That's what i believe the majority wants, and why the recent overclocking record is a moot point for me.

I'm waiting for real world applications to come into the light for BD cause only then will that give me a good sense of where the chips stand. Every is generally about the bottom line which is performance, tolerance toward higher volts and overclocks is great though, just not what i'm eager to see.

[mR Yellow]

Release me, release my body....lol

Release the chip already AMD.

The 19th is fast approaching. Who's got their credit cards in 6-shooter holsters and an itchy trigger finger?

[Frick]

Originally Posted by twilyth

The 19th is fast approaching. Who's got their credit cards in 6-shooter holsters and an itchy trigger finger?

My CPU is actually overkill for me so it's no need for it. I AM waiting for reviews though.

[repman244]

Some really interesting "info" by Movieman at XS:

I cheer good products. Blue,Green or pink, doesn't matter.
Now there are things I can't talk about yet but I can say I think they have a winner here.
I saw the benches...

Patience my friend, won't be that long..not long at all..

Whole thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...50-at-8429-MHz

[Zen_]

Interesting info there over at XS in the context of the 8.5 GHz clock, and it's also worth noting:

AMD said they found that the company's FX chips could reach over 5 GHz using normal air cooling or water-cooling rigs that cost less than $100.

That's more good news.

[cadaveca]

Hmmm. how much does the H100 cost?

[Covert_Death]

WANT! just got my 990FX in and ready to play with an 8150 if priced right

[WhiteLotus]

Just because I really REALLY don't want to go through 14 pages of useless posts...

What FACTS are there about Bulldozer?