AMD FX 8150 Looks Core i7-980X and Core i7 2600K in the Eye: AMD Benchmarks - Page 2

Black Hades · Sep 24, 2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

[...]Chart #3: Fantastic! AMD processors work with instructions only their software uses. Kind of pointless. [...]

Intel will introduce hardware FMA3 in 2011 (or later).[link, japanese] These instructions may arrive with the 22 nm process, also slated for march 2012.

FMA4 will be supported in AMD processors from 2011.
AMD will support FMA3 in the future for compatibility reasons if Intel sticks to FMA3 only.[link]

A member of the Intel forum asked:
"I have heard that Sandy Bridge won't have FMA implementation." True?
Answer from an Intel official representative:
"Sandy Bridge will not have FMA, it's targeted for a future processor. I apologize if there is any confusion I (or Intel) caused. In our defense, we did discuss feature timing in the last two Intel developer forums [...]"

HTC · Sep 24, 2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeOnMars

Oh My....good news

More benchmarks please!!

All the slides i found on this topic @ XS:

Aleksander · Sep 24, 2011, 01:46 PM

Simply insane xD

AMDfur · Sep 24, 2011, 01:47 PM

Ok, I know now what my next CPU will be. Thanks for sharing the info. Good luck Intel fans.

RejZoR · Sep 24, 2011, 01:48 PM

Now just release the damn thing...

HTC · Sep 24, 2011, 01:48 PM

All i want to know now is:

1 - How will it underclock

2 - When will it be available for purchase in my area

legends84 · Sep 24, 2011, 01:53 PM

ok. I'll go for this.. early next year

ViperXTR · Sep 24, 2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Recus

Paper benchmarks. I wonder why they didn't include SiSoft Sandra benchmarks?

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/11430/ http://i56.tinypic.com/2e1sp3m.gif

what processor are they exactly comparing? i see 4C/8T but only 6mb cache, isnt the 2600K 3.4Ghz and 8mb cache?

YautjaLord · Sep 24, 2011, 02:06 PM

Finally, some paper numbers; hope it'll be the same when you TPU staff guys bench this monster.

Plus i wonder what mobo they used; i hope it was either Crosshair V Formula or Sabertooth 990FX.

catnipkiller · Sep 24, 2011, 02:20 PM

Oh yes it will run crysis.

repman244 · Sep 24, 2011, 02:21 PM

FX-4170 will be a best for gaming IMO, great price and great clock and same amount of L3 cache as the 8 core model.

JrRacinFan · Sep 24, 2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by repman244

FX-4170 will be a best for gaming IMO, great price and great clock and same amount of L3 cache as the 8 core model.

Unlockable 8 core? Hmmmm

FreedomEclipse · Sep 24, 2011, 02:24 PM

In bit-tech.net reviews of a 990x, they said a 2500k was a little faster when both processors were overclocked. but the 990x's saving grace was when it came to heavy multitasking

Recus · Sep 24, 2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperXTR

what processor are they exactly comparing? i see 4C/8T but only 6mb cache, isnt the 2600K 3.4Ghz and 8mb cache?

Probably 2500k.

Shihabyooo · Sep 24, 2011, 02:30 PM

Nah, I'm still sceptic about this. tis hard for me to believe AMD will own intel with a single release. Nope thx, I think I'll wait for a third party benchmarks and reviews.

It would be nice if these benches were accurate though. Wouldn't mind intel pushing down the prices on their sandy bridge to sub $150

TheMailMan78 · Sep 24, 2011, 02:34 PM

Well judging those MARKETING slides I would say AMD hit the spot I figured. About equal with Sandy. Thats about all anyone can ask for honestly. I'm looking forward to the upgrade. Ill take it all with a grain of salt until I see a TPU bench.

KieranD · Sep 24, 2011, 02:36 PM

8 cores vs 4 cores i would be surprised they couldn't match the i5 2500k, IMO its bollocks that it needs double the cores to just match it. Im more interested in those 6 core and 4 core bulldozer performance.

Still i call fud on everything until i see multiple random reviewers get their hands on them.

TRWOV · Sep 24, 2011, 02:37 PM

Finally. Although I'll likely wait until the socket change before deciding to upgrade to IB or BD these results are promising and Trinity just got more interesting.

TheMailMan78 · Sep 24, 2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KieranD

8 cores vs 4 cores i would be surprised they couldn't match the i5 2500k, IMO its bollocks that it needs double the cores to just match it. Im more interested in those 6 core and 4 core bulldozer performance.

Still i call fud on everything until i see multiple random reviewers get their hands on them.

One thing ya gotta keep in mind with AMD is they are not real cores as AMD markets them. They are modular. So when you see this whole "8 core vs 4 core" debate its bulls@!t. An AMD 8 core vs a Intel 4 core is equal for all given circumstances.

Even if it was a true 8 core it shouldn't matter to you. All the consumer should care about it bang for the buck. I wouldn't care if it used 50 cores as long as its faster AND cheaper then the last generation.

Crap Daddy · Sep 24, 2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shihabyooo

Nah, I'm still sceptic about this. tis hard for me to believe AMD will own intel with a single release. Nope thx, I think I'll wait for a third party benchmarks and reviews.

It would be nice if these benches were accurate though. Wouldn't mind intel pushing down the prices on their sandy bridge to sub $150

Read again between the lines. This is AMD advertising and we don't know if it's true.
It's under sandy bridge in 6 out of eight multithreaded benches. Plus the cinebench which is awfull if true. Hence the price they're asking. In gaming the comparison are made against phenom II x6 1100 and 980x which is slower than sandy when we talk games. The only good thing is high OC potential - hence the OC record presented to the world -

TheMailMan78 · Sep 24, 2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Read again between the lines. This is AMD advertising and we don't know if it's true.
It's under sandy bridge in 6 out of eight multithreaded benches. Plus the cinebench which is awfull if true. Hence the price they're asking. In gaming the comparison are made against phenom II x6 1100 and 980x which is slower than sandy when we talk games. The only good thing is high OC potential - hence the OC record presented to the world -

I count 4 not 6 and its cheaper. So like I said on par with Sandy. Not above. Exactly where AMD should be.

nINJAkECIL · Sep 24, 2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

One thing ya gotta keep in mind with AMD is they are not real cores as AMD markets them. They are modular. So when you see this whole "8 core vs 4 core" debate its bulls@!t. An AMD 8 core vs a Intel 4 core is equal for all given circumstances.

Even if it was a true 8 core it shouldn't matter to you. All the consumer should care about it bang for the buck. I wouldn't care if it used 50 cores as long as its faster AND cheaper then the last generation.

Couldn't agree more than that.
Although I've used Intel cpus for the past 5 years, I'm ready to jump ship if AMD FX 8150 is on par with 2600K.

TRWOV · Sep 24, 2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Recus

Probably 2500k.

2500K is 4C/4T

The 4170 looks interesting: 4 core with 125w TDP? Am I smelling an unlockable FX?

xenocide · Sep 24, 2011, 02:56 PM

I always take performance numbers directly from a marketing department with a quarry full of salt.

TRWOV · Sep 24, 2011, 03:00 PM

Of course, they are cherry picked benchs, maybe at settings that benefit AMD the most but still even if it ends being between Gulftown and Sandy Bridge plus the overclocking potential and the cheaper price, FX is an enticing platform, no doubt, and far from the catastrophic failure that a lot of people though it would be.

Is this keeps up for PD and IB I might buy my first AMD CPU. I'm somewhat tired of having to buy an entire new platform to upgrade.

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Sep 24, 2011, 01:48 PM	#30
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Sep 24, 2011, 01:46 PM	#28
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Sep 24, 2011, 01:53 PM	#32
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Sep 24, 2011, 02:06 PM	#34
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Sep 24, 2011, 02:34 PM	#41
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Hard Disk:	WD BlueCaviar 500GB/Spinpoint F3 1TB/Seagate Barracuda 500 GB
Optical Drive:	LG/Asus
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung SyncMaster T220/Samsung 32" LCD TV
Case:	Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced/El Cheapo
Sound Card:	Asus Xonar D1/Denon PMA500AE/Senn HD518/Sony SSB1000
PSU:	Corsair TX650/Corsair TX650M
Software:	Windows 7/Windows 8 Pro

Processor:	i7 3770K@4.7ghz
Motherboard:	MSI Z77A-GD65
Cooling:	Thermalright Venomous X black
Memory:	V-GEN 4x4GB DDR3
Video Card:	Zotac GTX-560Ti
Hard Disk:	Crucial M4 64GB \| WD Green 1TB \| Seagate 1TB \| Seagate 500GB
Optical Drive:	Acer DVD-RW
CRT/LCD Model:	Viewsonic VA2013WM
Case:	Corsair Carbide 400R
Sound Card:	Audigy 2ZS Platinum
PSU:	Corsair AX750W
Software:	Win7 x64
Benchmarks:	http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=371985

Sep 24, 2011, 02:56 PM	#49
xenocide Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 1,709 (2.09/day) Thanks: 228 Thanked 405 Times in 298 Posts System Specs	I always take performance numbers directly from a marketing department with a quarry full of salt. __________________ “If BF3 doesn't turn out to be the biggest selling PC shooter of all time, then I will eat my graphics card.” -MatTheCat

Processor:	Intel i5-2500k
Motherboard:	MSI P67A-GD65
Cooling:	Corsair Hydro H60
Memory:	8GB (4x2GB) G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-1600
Video Card:	eVGA GTX670
Hard Disk:	WD Caviar Black 1TB
Optical Drive:	ASUS DRW-24B1ST
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer GD235HZbid 120hz LCD
Case:	Rosewill Destroyer Mid-Tower
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	Corsair 650W 650-TX
Software:	Windows 7 Professional

Sep 24, 2011, 03:00 PM	#50
TRWOV Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Mexico Posts: 2,136 (3.15/day) Thanks: 813 Thanked 1,142 Times in 591 Posts System Specs	Of course, they are cherry picked benchs, maybe at settings that benefit AMD the most but still even if it ends being between Gulftown and Sandy Bridge plus the overclocking potential and the cheaper price, FX is an enticing platform, no doubt, and far from the catastrophic failure that a lot of people though it would be. Is this keeps up for PD and IB I might buy my first AMD CPU. I'm somewhat tired of having to buy an entire new platform to upgrade. __________________ CRUNCHERS - 1090t - 2x1055t - X4 620 OCTANUX - Conroe865PE - QX6800 - 4GB DDR-400 - HD4670 AGP - Audigy 2 ZS - Physx PPU phenomenal - AM2NF3-VSTA - 965BE - 8GB DDR2-1066 - HD3850 AGP - X-Fi - Physx PPU WIP Green Tea - 939A8X-M - FX60 - 4GB DDR-500 - 7950GT AGP Re-build - CT-6VTA2 - PIII 600E - 384MB PC133 - Voodoo 5500 AGP - SB16 ISA RB scraps - IC7-G - P4 3.4E - 4GB DDR500 - HD2600XT AGP - X-Fi - iRAM WIP