GeForce 8800GTS terrible performance?

Irish_PXzyan · Jan 20, 2007, 03:26 PM

Hey guys.

Ok um..I have bought the 8800GTS..with new PSU, OCZ 600WATT Game X Stream edition, and well..I tryed it out playing Medieval 2 Total war..I did not change any settings so I could see the performance increase.....and iam very dissappointed.
Before I got this card..I was using the X800GT 256mb, and was getting 22-25FPS average...with the GTS...iam only reaching 32-40FPS..not even double FPS increase??
Also..tryed oblivion...was getting average of 24-28FPS...now iam getting 33-40FPS...thats a terrible increase...fecking lag still!!!!

I have an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz...I think thats the problem..but is it? ive the latest drivers also for the card..97.92 I beleave.
anyone have any ideas?? I downloaded the latest DirectX drivers also..made no difference.

DOM · Jan 20, 2007, 03:37 PM

its your CPU

like with my 800XL OC with my P4 OC i only got like 5800-5900 in 3dmark05 and with C2D oc i got 7127

can you OC it ?

xman2007 · Jan 20, 2007, 03:39 PM

i wouldnt say thats terrible but you probably are being held back by that 3200, tbh i would of upgraded my cpu/mobo + maybe ram before i got a high end card like that, you cant expect miracles with a 2ghz a64 especially not in a demanding game like oblivion

with a decent cpu that card should eat up oblivion

Irish_PXzyan · Jan 20, 2007, 03:39 PM

yep I can overclock it..but got no fancy cooling system or better fan for the CPU..only with the one it came with..dout its safe enough to do it

xman2007 · Jan 20, 2007, 03:45 PM

maybe take it up a little bit to 2.1/2.2 and see what the load temps are like and go from there.

edit: you have a mediocre system with a high end graphics card in it, even with an oc, you will need to upgrade your cpu/ram at the very least to be able to take advantage of it unless you can get some insane oc's out of that cpu and ram

pt · Jan 20, 2007, 03:49 PM

get a better mem and cooler and overclock it to 2.8/2.9 and see your fps go up

HookeyStreet · Jan 20, 2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish_PXzyan

Hey guys.

Ok um..I have bought the 8800GTS..with new PSU, OCZ 600WATT Game X Stream edition, and well..I tryed it out playing Medieval 2 Total war..I did not change any settings so I could see the performance increase.....and iam very dissappointed.
Before I got this card..I was using the X800GT 256mb, and was getting 22-25FPS average...with the GTS...iam only reaching 32-40FPS..not even double FPS increase??
Also..tryed oblivion...was getting average of 24-28FPS...now iam getting 33-40FPS...thats a terrible increase...fecking lag still!!!!

I have an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz...I think thats the problem..but is it? ive the latest drivers also for the card..97.92 I beleave.
anyone have any ideas?? I downloaded the latest DirectX drivers also..made no difference.

LMFAO your trying to use that GFX card with that CPU!!!! Thats your problem

Even a c2d E6300 bottlenecks a beastly card like that!!

Thats the trouble with PC's, once you upgrade one part you will probably have to upgrade the rest to keep your entire system at the same level

ATM that card is a bit of a waste in your current rig m8 as the 8800GTS/GTX is very CPU dependent anyway

Irish_PXzyan · Jan 20, 2007, 03:55 PM

darn it....ive had a guy look at a few things for meh...he beleaves its the actualy RAM thats the problem...its only DDR1 and its rather rubbish!
I will aim for a new mobo and CPU and DDR2 ram

oh yes..the future is bright

HellasVagabond · Jan 20, 2007, 04:02 PM

First change the CPU and then get a card that wont be bottlenecked by that CPU...

xman2007 · Jan 20, 2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish_PXzyan

darn it....ive had a guy look at a few things for meh...he beleaves its the actualy RAM thats the problem...its only DDR1 and its rather rubbish!
I will aim for a new mobo and CPU and DDR2 ram

oh yes..the future is bright

if you can afford that go ahead, if not a decent cpu and mobo will suffice, its nothing to do with your mem as timings make up for fsb on memory unless you get some good ddrII with good timings and high fsb

xman2007 · Jan 20, 2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HellasVagabond

First change the CPU and then get a card that wont be bottlenecked by that CPU...

hmmm contradict yourself there mate, change the cpu and then get a card that wont be bottlenecked by it?? why get a slower card first off, and how will it be bottlenecked by that cpu if he changes it ?

a good 939 4000+ or x2 4600+ will do

HookeyStreet · Jan 20, 2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xman2007

hmmm contradict yourself there mate, change the cpu and then get a card that wont be bottlenecked by it?? why get a slower card first off, and how will it be bottlenecked by that cpu if he changes it ?

a good 939 4000+ or x2 4600+ will do

I agree, that wouldhelp and he can keep his mobo & ram etc

HookeyStreet · Jan 20, 2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish_PXzyan

darn it....ive had a guy look at a few things for meh...he beleaves its the actualy RAM thats the problem...its only DDR1 and its rather rubbish!
I will aim for a new mobo and CPU and DDR2 ram

oh yes..the future is bright

Well hes obviously a n00b as its your CPU thats bottlenecking that video card!

Zubasa · Jan 20, 2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

Well hes obviously a n00b as its your CPU thats bottlenecking that video card!

Agree~

The difference between DD1 and DDR2 is not that much, since DDR2 have higher latencies.

I guess I did the right choice to use a X1950Pro on my setup instead of bottlenecking some higher end cards.

Rurouni Strife · Jan 20, 2007, 05:57 PM

If you have decent air cooling, you can take that 3200+ up to 2.6 ghz no prob. That will help quite a bit. I'd imagine seeing your FPS go up noticably (5-15 ish? big range i know). Those 3200+'s are great OC'ers. Mine is at 2.6ghz on stock air, so you shouldn't have much of a problem.

Irish_PXzyan · Jan 20, 2007, 06:03 PM

iam no expect with these cooling things...but the case I got...there is 3 fans in the case...one of them is pointing to the CPU..its right over it...wouldm that help it to cool down if I were to overclock it?

DOM · Jan 20, 2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish_PXzyan

iam no expect with these cooling things...but the case I got...there is 3 fans in the case...one of them is pointing to the CPU..its right over it...wouldm that help it to cool down if I were to overclock it?

well OC it and you'll find out

just start out small the if temps are good go higher

lol man its snowing alot over here

Zubasa · Jan 20, 2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

well OC it and you'll find out

just start out small the if temps are good go higher

lol man its snowing alot over here

I never seen real snow in my life

Irish_PXzyan · Jan 20, 2007, 06:08 PM

heh! make yourself a nice snow cooling system

Irish_PXzyan · Jan 20, 2007, 06:10 PM

woops...I forgot to mention...how do I check the temp of my CPU??? where do I go?? or what do I download!

DOM · Jan 20, 2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zubasa

I never seen real snow in my life

i can take some pic if you want?

it kind of pissed off cuz it its fucking up the signal from the sat.

i got to watch my cartoons later

xman2007 · Jan 20, 2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish_PXzyan

woops...I forgot to mention...how do I check the temp of my CPU??? where do I go?? or what do I download!

well you can check your temps in your bios although that will only be good for giving you idle temps, see if your mobo manufacturer has a windows utility for monitoring your temps. or there is motherboard monitor and sysoft sandra also gives you the current temp of your cpu but the latter isnt really made for testing temps at load.

Zubasa · Jan 20, 2007, 06:15 PM

The coldest it ever get in Hong Kong is around 9C.
So HK never snow.

But for some weird reason, there was actually hailstones (is this how to spell? lol basically ice came down from the sky) few summers ago.

HellasVagabond · Jan 21, 2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by xman2007

hmmm contradict yourself there mate, change the cpu and then get a card that wont be bottlenecked by it?? why get a slower card first off, and how will it be bottlenecked by that cpu if he changes it ?

a good 939 4000+ or x2 4600+ will do

I said what people SHOULD do , wasnt refering to this exact case...

Wile E · Jan 21, 2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Irish_PXzyan

woops...I forgot to mention...how do I check the temp of my CPU??? where do I go?? or what do I download!

Coretemp always worked for me. Just google it.

Jan 20, 2007, 03:26 PM	#1
Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	GeForce 8800GTS terrible performance? Hey guys. Ok um..I have bought the 8800GTS..with new PSU, OCZ 600WATT Game X Stream edition, and well..I tryed it out playing Medieval 2 Total war..I did not change any settings so I could see the performance increase.....and iam very dissappointed. Before I got this card..I was using the X800GT 256mb, and was getting 22-25FPS average...with the GTS...iam only reaching 32-40FPS..not even double FPS increase?? Also..tryed oblivion...was getting average of 24-28FPS...now iam getting 33-40FPS...thats a terrible increase...fecking lag still!!!! I have an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz...I think thats the problem..but is it? ive the latest drivers also for the card..97.92 I beleave. anyone have any ideas?? I downloaded the latest DirectX drivers also..made no difference.

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Jan 20, 2007, 03:39 PM	#3
xman2007 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 554 (0.21/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts System Specs	i wouldnt say thats terrible but you probably are being held back by that 3200, tbh i would of upgraded my cpu/mobo + maybe ram before i got a high end card like that, you cant expect miracles with a 2ghz a64 especially not in a demanding game like oblivion with a decent cpu that card should eat up oblivion __________________ I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=23528

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Jan 20, 2007, 03:37 PM	#2
DOM Eligible for custom title Join Date: May 2006 Location: TX, USA Posts: 6,473 (2.54/day) Thanks: 292 Thanked 791 Times in 707 Posts System Specs	its your CPU like with my 800XL OC with my P4 OC i only got like 5800-5900 in 3dmark05 and with C2D oc i got 7127 can you OC it ?

Jan 20, 2007, 03:45 PM	#5
xman2007 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 554 (0.21/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts System Specs	maybe take it up a little bit to 2.1/2.2 and see what the load temps are like and go from there. edit: you have a mediocre system with a high end graphics card in it, even with an oc, you will need to upgrade your cpu/ram at the very least to be able to take advantage of it unless you can get some insane oc's out of that cpu and ram __________________ I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=23528

Jan 20, 2007, 03:49 PM	#6
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Jan 20, 2007, 03:55 PM	#8
Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	darn it....ive had a guy look at a few things for meh...he beleaves its the actualy RAM thats the problem...its only DDR1 and its rather rubbish! I will aim for a new mobo and CPU and DDR2 ram oh yes..the future is bright

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Rurouni Strife Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 121 (0.05/day) Thanks: 8 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	If you have decent air cooling, you can take that 3200+ up to 2.6 ghz no prob. That will help quite a bit. I'd imagine seeing your FPS go up noticably (5-15 ish? big range i know). Those 3200+'s are great OC'ers. Mine is at 2.6ghz on stock air, so you shouldn't have much of a problem.

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Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	iam no expect with these cooling things...but the case I got...there is 3 fans in the case...one of them is pointing to the CPU..its right over it...wouldm that help it to cool down if I were to overclock it?

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Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	heh! make yourself a nice snow cooling system

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Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	woops...I forgot to mention...how do I check the temp of my CPU??? where do I go?? or what do I download!

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