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Old Oct 1, 2011, 10:09 PM   #4951
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for some reason my net connection drops all time... even windows "nic" shows problem
also i hate to reswitch to fullscreen after match restarts.... that brows/game combo sux
If you use the windows key to get out of fullscreen you should go right back into it when you click back into the game
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meh played the beta a bit not impressed at all graphics look nice, thats about it.
graphics arent even that good.
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well for me mouse movment takes 2 times the distance to turn the same distance it took in BC2,

noticed 30 rounds from a weapon from 4 feet away aiming down sights at a guys back bullets apparently miss even tho they shouldnt be, only to have same said guy turn and 1 shot me very slowly, overall not impressed, to much focus on grinding to get unlocks,


BF3 feels like an FPS MMO, if i wanted to grind for everything id just play an mmo server web browser setup bugs the hell out of me,

cant change graphics settings unless your in a match, if you get shot and killed while changing settings it boots you out of the menu,

overall it might be a beta but almost nothing changes from beta to release in todays games so im not impressed already paid for the game through a buddy of mine so i cant get the cash back, but im not impressed to the point ill probably pass BF3 over for other games at this point.
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cant change graphics settings unless your in a match, if you get shot and killed while changing settings it boots you out of the menu,
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oh ill play co op missions etc i already paid for the fucking game and cant get my money back so. ill do the single player and co op missions and probably not bother with the regular multiplayer unless major changes happen.
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Good lord is it that bad? LOL Give it some time people. ok, everyone has their own opinion of them game, I'm just saying give the final release a chance! It is BF after all.
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well beta has no PB or anti hack measures so hacking is on the rise like crazy on top of the various other issues lol.
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what are the average FPS you guys get ?
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I'm not liking this at all. There is a lot of work just to get inside the game and/or make configuration changes.

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From my experience of about 8 games i've played on different servers only 1 server had this problem and it was the same parts of the map for every one becasue there was a group of like 8 people stuck in the same spot, I left that game found a new server 83ping and never got the problem for the 3 round i played on it.
I understand thats what you have experienced, but it doesn't mean others have had the same experience and found a simple fix like that. And because you found a fix for yourself, doesn't mean that would fix it for everyone. Granted it does seem gone now, but the servers have been brought down.

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came up against my first hacker ingame. me and my squad spawned directly behind his squad 3 or 4 times. and each time we emptied about 3 mags into him and he didnt even flinch.
Was he prone? And were you using shotguns? I haven't really used them much, but this morning I came up on a prone guy with my 870. I was standing right over him, basically casting my shadow on him. Put 3 shells dead on his lower back, only way I could have been closer is if I crouched over him. Didn't even wound him, he just turned and shot me after a bit. I was not very impressed, but he never responded. Later the game, completely different spot on the map and player, prone again with the 870, same issue. It seems shotguns damage is fubar if you are standing right over a prone target.

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Personally, I like prone. It makes the game more realistic.
Really? People proning and climbing rocks and hills and proning across the map is realistic? I don't mind prone a ton, it's another button I have to hit, but the use of it in the FPS genre is far from realistic, it gets way over used, moving while prone with a weapon is very difficult, not very comfortable.

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well for me mouse movment takes 2 times the distance to turn the same distance it took in BC2,

noticed 30 rounds from a weapon from 4 feet away aiming down sights at a guys back bullets apparently miss even tho they shouldnt be, only to have same said guy turn and 1 shot me very slowly, overall not impressed, to much focus on grinding to get unlocks,

BF3 feels like an FPS MMO, if i wanted to grind for everything id just play an mmo server web browser setup bugs the hell out of me,

cant change graphics settings unless your in a match, if you get shot and killed while changing settings it boots you out of the menu,

overall it might be a beta but almost nothing changes from beta to release in todays games so im not impressed already paid for the game through a buddy of mine so i cant get the cash back, but im not impressed to the point ill probably pass BF3 over for other games at this point.
My mouse movement speed I haven't even set, feels the exact same. So I'm not sure if there is a movement slider, since it's in beta. But that would be where you would fix that, not too hard of a fix once that appears.

I am surprised aiming at someone that close that you missed. Hip firing is horribly inaccurate, but aiming down sights and actually correcting the recoil I've not see anything like that happen, even with LMGs that kick like a mule, infact hit boxes are actually too large right now. If you are hiding behind something and you are close to an edge, bullets flying past that edge will kill you.

I agree with the MMO thing, everyone cried in BC2, "wwaaa level 25 everything is unlocked! What do I do now". Simple answer, play the game, play an RPG or an MMO if you need rewards dangled in front of your game endlessly for a game to be fun. Everyone these days just needs to be rewarded for everything, or it's no fun it seems.

And I expect the menu only being allowed while alive to change. I know you realize it's a beta, but the things you mentioned actual do seem like things they are tweaking. You will see mouse settings, hit boxes will change, weapons will get tweaks. The only one I don't see changing is the unlock system, but thats because everyone cried about it, and wants an MMO FPS or something, or said "BF2 was this way, so every shooter for the rest of time should be as well!". I feel the small changes that the influence of BF2 brought on, and I don't like them, and it makes me sad that people were so ignorant to think that some of the feel of BF2 should be there because it was awesome half a decade ago. But I am still having fun, and look forward to true Conquest to put my final judgement on it.

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oh ill play co op missions etc i already paid for the fucking game and cant get my money back so. ill do the single player and co op missions and probably not bother with the regular multiplayer unless major changes happen.
Your complains are on mouse movement and hit box, they wouldn't change for single player. You know you will play MP, just like you raged about BC2

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I easily break 60 fps with max beta settings.
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i don't measure. It is pointless so long as i aint lagging.
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Really? People proning and climbing rocks and hills and proning across the map is realistic? I don't mind prone a ton, it's another button I have to hit, but the use of it in the FPS genre is far from realistic, it gets way over used, moving while prone with a weapon is very difficult, not very comfortable.
Yes, some of it is dumb.

As for moving prone with a weapon. I'm very aware that it sucks, but personally, I'll crawl in prone if needed to stay alive/midst of battle.
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I understand thats what you have experienced, but it doesn't mean others have had the same experience and found a simple fix like that. And because you found a fix for yourself, doesn't mean that would fix it for everyone. Granted it does seem gone now, but the servers have been brought down.



Was he prone? And were you using shotguns? I haven't really used them much, but this morning I came up on a prone guy with my 870. I was standing right over him, basically casting my shadow on him. Put 3 shells dead on his lower back, only way I could have been closer is if I crouched over him. Didn't even wound him, he just turned and shot me after a bit. I was not very impressed, but he never responded. Later the game, completely different spot on the map and player, prone again with the 870, same issue. It seems shotguns damage is fubar if you are standing right over a prone target.



Have you tried the Chrome trick with it?



Really? People proning and climbing rocks and hills and proning across the map is realistic? I don't mind prone a ton, it's another button I have to hit, but the use of it in the FPS genre is far from realistic, it gets way over used, moving while prone with a weapon is very difficult, not very comfortable.



My mouse movement speed I haven't even set, feels the exact same. So I'm not sure if there is a movement slider, since it's in beta. But that would be where you would fix that, not too hard of a fix once that appears.

I am surprised aiming at someone that close that you missed. Hip firing is horribly inaccurate, but aiming down sights and actually correcting the recoil I've not see anything like that happen, even with LMGs that kick like a mule, infact hit boxes are actually too large right now. If you are hiding behind something and you are close to an edge, bullets flying past that edge will kill you.

I agree with the MMO thing, everyone cried in BC2, "wwaaa level 25 everything is unlocked! What do I do now". Simple answer, play the game, play an RPG or an MMO if you need rewards dangled in front of your game endlessly for a game to be fun. Everyone these days just needs to be rewarded for everything, or it's no fun it seems.

And I expect the menu only being allowed while alive to change. I know you realize it's a beta, but the things you mentioned actual do seem like things they are tweaking. You will see mouse settings, hit boxes will change, weapons will get tweaks. The only one I don't see changing is the unlock system, but thats because everyone cried about it, and wants an MMO FPS or something, or said "BF2 was this way, so every shooter for the rest of time should be as well!". I feel the small changes that the influence of BF2 brought on, and I don't like them, and it makes me sad that people were so ignorant to think that some of the feel of BF2 should be there because it was awesome half a decade ago. But I am still having fun, and look forward to true Conquest to put my final judgement on it.



Your complains are on mouse movement and hit box, they wouldn't change for single player. You know you will play MP, just like you raged about BC2

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kurgan i rage in BC2 and still manage a 1.4-1.8 k/d most rounds im getting .12 - .33 avg in BF3, weapons are broken shotguns more usless then ever, and my issues still stand,

id get my money back if i could and would get Skyrim or Rage at full price instead, but since i bought the pre order from a friend of mine at a local shop they dont refund on pre orders and hes the same dumbass that decided not to build a gaming pc and pre ordered BF3 on PC at full price lol. so granted i got BF3 for half price im still no impressed,

weapons are still fucked unless you have unlocks, i really dislike the entire unlock senario with FPS games in general even back in BF2, etc its simply put retarded, i dont need unlocks to play a game i need good hit detection good weapon balance, and great features

fucked up web server browser with a fucked up EA Downloader just renamed is asinine, along with there other design choices, Single player dosent suffer from hacking, server side latency issues or over stressed servers

also Co op campaign means i can still play multiplayer and dont have to do deal with the same shit either, so ill still get some enjoyment out of BF3, but not nearly as much as i got out of BC2.

in terms of enjoyment,

BF2 > 1942 > BC2 > 2142 > BF3

at this point thats how i look at it, and in reality 1942 and BF2 are tied, just prefered the more modern settings of BF2 over 1942 but otherwise yea. for enjoyment factor there ya go
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I'm getting like 45+ fps with an 5870 on medium settings. I'm pretty happy with that at 1080p res. Don't want to turn the res down incase I miss stuff on screen like enemies and head shots.

Don't like having to keep the browser open to play the game though, I must say. Which browser is best for mem use for this game?
Probably best off waiting until the game launches, but so far I run all maxed and 4x AA (post off) and 60+ fps is cake walk with two 5870s. Though I did get on a Caspian Border server once and frame rate became terrible when zooming with the tank's .50 cal but I had a really high ping server too so maybe that didn't help.

I also use FF7 and do not have problems even though I always have multiple tabs open.

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Ultra settings are readily available in the beta and DX11 is working just fine as well, I don't know where you heard otherwise but they were mistaken.
The give away that DX11 is not enabled in the Beta is to go check out the sand bags around the rocket launchers on Metro. Nothing screams DX10 like those do.
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You are at a huge disadvantage if the retail version doesn't include some sort of scope for the weapons. If you buy this game late and you are left with just iron sights it will be tough to get into the game until you unlock those scopes. Personally, I don't like the UI as a whole as it's cumbersome, resource heavy and awkward to use.
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games far to dependant on unlocks, etc and early start on other players,

utterly worthless but every Battlefield has been this way its just gotten far worse with each one, as i said before its like an MMO, start early dont sleep and youll have an edge join in a week late your fucked your a noob behind the curve lol. i like the weapon customization to an extent, what i dont care for is how much it impacts a weapons ability to kill

accuracy bonuses, ammo damage etc the weapon mods are integral to advancing and doing well it ruins it.

again as pointed out Shotguns are even MORE broken then Bad Company 2 so yea BF3 basically takes things in a retarded direction breaks the weapons i use most, and pretty much punishes late adopters even more so then BC2 did.
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The give away that DX11 is not enabled in the Beta is to go check out the sand bags around the rocket launchers on Metro. Nothing screams DX10 like those do.
Why would anyone care about DX11 for an online FPS? Everyone who want's to increase their K/D and rank up fast will disable DX11, Ambient Occlusion, AA, and other IQ settings if it reduces any lag. I've ranked up once per round (after the 12th Rank) once I get a good kill streak going. If I get about 8-10 kill streak goin I would rank up before the end of the round. That's if the server doesn't disconnect (sigh).
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kurgan i rage in BC2 and still manage a 1.4-1.8 k/d most rounds im getting .12 - .33 avg in BF3.
I have no idea how ether. I mean how can you maintain that k/d ratio plus swing from Kurgans and TheLaughingMan nuts at the same time! You should join Cirque du Soleil.
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Why would anyone care about DX11 for an online FPS? Everyone who want's to increase their K/D and rank up fast will disable DX11, Ambient Occlusion, AA, and other IQ settings if it reduces any lag. I've ranked up once per round (after the 12th Rank) once I get a good kill streak going. If I get about 8-10 kill streak goin I would rank up before the end of the round. That's if the server doesn't disconnect (sigh).
For some people with high end systems it really would not make much difference and that's why we care
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For some people with high end systems it really would not make much difference and that's why we care
Trust me, it does. But its not because one has a high end pc
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I would stay off them servers,Some guys Dice to be honest are having guys accounts stolen from them servers,That means a full EA ban.Go to your EA account now and change the password so those fools can not Steal your account,Remember EA/Origin are one and the same.

PS this is why they have Origin. How long do you think it will take those guys doing them servers to get a Ban Hammer of the EA kind on them,Just in the last 3 hours I have seen DICE/EA ban about 5 of them, off the server list.By ban I mean ALL EA games Ban
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just read a lot all over battlefield 3 forums and apparently this game build we are playing is from a few months ago. What Dice has right now in their hands actually has all the graphical and gameplay glitches and bugs all sorted out and fixed. The "beta" we are playing is really only meant to see if battlelog works, if the server browser works, and for any issues in the netcode
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