AMD FX-8150 Bulldozer On Ubuntu Linux Benchmarks

[koorosh]

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ulldozer&num=1

This is the review from phoronix in linux ground. 2600k is missing because they don't have one to test.
Overall multi-threading is good and single thread is not.


PS: They'll have a review with GCC with bulldozer optimizations and Open64 later.

[Damn_Smooth]

This thread won't last long.

[koorosh]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

This thread won't last long.

What do you mean?

[xenocide]

This is pretty much what everyone already knows. BD does alright or even well in heavily threaded applications, but anything with 4 or less threads it drags feet behind the competition.

[koorosh]

Thanks for notice. Well maybe someone is interested in how bulldozer perform on linux and other apps that aren't common in regular reviews.

[Goodman]

This proof further the point that no patch/fix will help FX perform better in windows or games... well maybe a tiny little 1-2% at best

[nt300]

More like a lot more. With a proper patch fix to repair the L1 & L2 timing issues alone should gain you a nice 10% increase in performance all accross the board.

[pantherx12]

Originally Posted by Goodman

This proof further the point that no patch/fix will help FX perform better in windows or games... well maybe a tiny little 1-2% at best

Proof?

This isn't a bulldozer optimised build of linux, it's just linux.

It's not that rumoured patch everyones been hearing about.


From the article
"In terms of any "sweet spot" or an ideal level of Bulldozer Linux support, it is not there quite yet. Similar to how Microsoft Windows 8 will offer up measurable performance improvements for Bulldozer over Windows 7, the Linux support can also be optimized for this distinct AMD architecture."

[lilhasselhoffer]

Originally Posted by nt300

More like a lot more. With a proper patch fix to repair the L1 & L2 timing issues alone should gain you a nice 10% increase in performance all accross the board.

Please, stop this. You have claimed, more times than I can count, that there will be some magical optomization patch for BD. Whether it be a registry fix, or an "optomized" variant of the core OS, you can show exactly zero facts.

Either find an optomization, and proove it works, or shut up about it. I can hope that there's an optomization patch that will bring the performance of my c2q up to that of an i7 2600k. The simple fact is there's not enough magic in the world to fix silicon that just isn't designed to perform.

I will eat my words if ever there is a patch. Until then, please keep your pipe dreams bottled up, and not exascerbating people who want to proove you wrong.

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by koorosh

What do you mean?

erocker wants us to use the existing Bulldozer threads to discuss Bulldozer, so he will probably close it when he sees it.

[nt300]

Originally Posted by lilhasselhoffer

Please, stop this. You have claimed, more times than I can count, that there will be some magical optomization patch for BD. Whether it be a registry fix, or an "optomized" variant of the core OS, you can show exactly zero facts.

Either find an optomization, and proove it works, or shut up about it. I can hope that there's an optomization patch that will bring the performance of my c2q up to that of an i7 2600k. The simple fact is there's not enough magic in the world to fix silicon that just isn't designed to perform.

I will eat my words if ever there is a patch. Until then, please keep your pipe dreams bottled up, and not exascerbating people who want to proove you wrong.

You will eat them

[heky]

Sure nt300, and you will have to eat the bricks you shit yourself. Becouse even if there will be a patch, it will be too little too late! Ivy bridge is already around the corner and BD didnt even manage to outperform the Phenom II in most scenarios.

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by heky

Sure nt300, and you will have to eat the bricks you shit yourself. Becouse even if there will be a patch, it will be too little too late! Ivy bridge is already around the corner and BD didnt even manage to outperform the Phenom II in most scenarios.

And that is why my next upgrade will be either IB or PD. I'm rooting for PD, but I definitely wouldn't bet on it.

[nt300]

Originally Posted by heky

Sure nt300, and you will have to eat the bricks you shit yourself. Becouse even if there will be a patch, it will be too little too late! Ivy bridge is already around the corner and BD didnt even manage to outperform the Phenom II in most scenarios.

Let's be realistic k, we all know for a fact AMD can never catch up to Intel. What AMD needs to strongly concentrate on is beating out its older gen CPU K10.5 – Phenom II all across the board by as much as 25% to 35% in every single app and game.

If they can achieve this then it would be enough to keep them strong in the game and they can compete head strong in price/performance against Intel. This way Intel would be forced to drop prices that would be much better for everybody.

As for the Bulldozer Patch that is suppose to fix some issues to give us better performance, it's currently a rumour so until it gets released, I will make no mention about it any longer.

Happy lilhasselhoffer For me I can't see myself buying Intel for my desktop, I have issue with monopoly style business prectices which is why it's AMD for me on the Desktop and Intel on the notebook unless AMD can come out with a better product at the time I am ready to upgrade.

[LordJummy]

Originally Posted by nt300

Let's be realistic k, we all know for a fact AMD can never catch up to Intel. What AMD needs to strongly concentrate on is beating out its older gen CPU K10.5 – Phenom II all across the board by as much as 25% to 35% in every single app and game.

If they can achieve this then it would be enough to keep them strong in the game and they can compete head strong in price/performance against Intel. This way Intel would be forced to drop prices that would be much better for everybody.

As for the Bulldozer Patch that is suppose to fix some issues to give us better performance, it's currently a rumour so until it gets released, I will make no mention about it any longer.

Happy lilhasselhoffer For me I can't see myself buying Intel for my desktop, I have issue with monopoly style business prectices which is why it's AMD for me on the Desktop and Intel on the notebook unless AMD can come out with a better product at the time I am ready to upgrade.

I can't help but laugh when people say shit like "For me I can't see myself buying Intel for my desktop, I have issue with monopoly style business prectices".

Really? Do you also not drive a car, buy products from grocery stores, use a cell phone, have electricity in your home, eat food, etc, etc, etc? It is impossible to be a consumer and NOT buy from monopolistic corporations. That so called moral reasoning behind choosing AMD is bullshit. Give me a break...


(oh, and why is it okay to buy intel for your notebook? isn't that still buying from a big evil corp?)

[brandonwh64]

I try to buy products that I need and that are fast and to the point. If intel is faster, thats what I will buy, if amd finds its way to be faster then AMD is what I buy. I have not pref of vender.

[DannibusX]

I buy both.

Because I can.

I also bought Monopoly, because it's fun.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by DannibusX

I buy both.

Because I can.

I also bought Monopoly, because it's fun.

OMG HAHA best post I have seen all day

[nt300]

Originally Posted by LordJummy

I can't help but laugh when people say shit like "For me I can't see myself buying Intel for my desktop, I have issue with monopoly style business prectices".

Really? Do you also not drive a car, buy products from grocery stores, use a cell phone, have electricity in your home, eat food, etc, etc, etc? It is impossible to be a consumer and NOT buy from monopolistic corporations. That so called moral reasoning behind choosing AMD is bullshit. Give me a break...


(oh, and why is it okay to buy intel for your notebook? isn't that still buying from a big evil corp?)

Yes you are right, but it's my right to call Intel a monopoly and my right to buy them or not. Reason I would buy an Intel based notebook is because I can get it dirt cheap from work that's why I say if AMD was cheaper but faster. All my Intel notebooks have ATI graphics. If ATI was a women, I would dump my girl for her

[Lionheart]

Will ppl ever stop whining

[seronx]

Originally Posted by Lionheart

Will ppl ever stop whining

No

[Chevalr1c]

You should here Limburgisch Dutch in the train. Even when the trains are on schedule and nothing bad has occurred, they whine the entire journey through the province and beyond its borders to if they go further than their own region). Guess they have never heard the proverb of a neighbouring province (North Brabant) that is like "whine in your leisure time".

Moral of the story: some people have an addiction to whining.

[Super XP]

What do you guys think?

ATInsider Oct 26, 2011 at 5:05 pm

AMD FX – Series B3 revision is more than just a basic stepping:
I have direct knowledge of a possible B3 revision for the AMD FX line of CPUs. I cannot disclose performance projections at this time, but be assured AMDs processor division is working vigorously on a (B3) stepping revision with minor architectural tweaks. The base architecture will not be changed at this time.
Within the B3 stepping revision, expect minor tweaks to the following:
1) L1, L2 and L3 latencies
2) Cache Thrashing Issues
3) Modified Algorithms for Branch Prediction
4) Healthy Bump in Processor Frequency
5) Slight Frequency increase via NB Controller
6) “Total Intelligent Control” For example programs and applications should look at the module design approach and the ability for the processor to intelligently turn off and/or turn on specific cores that it believes is hindering performance for maximum performance. (May be for Socket FM2, not sure at this time).
7) Power will be improved but not my much. We will have to wait for Socket FM2 or a future B4 revision for the AM3+ platform for better power efficiency especially when Over-clocked.
ATInsider

http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/17/b...#comment-11399

[jmcslob]

Sounds like vague BS...Still doesn't help the poor people that paid for these turds thinking they would be a good chip but got fooled by the name....and on FM2....OK so in other words AM3+ is dead already...F*ck off AMD...at least the ATI division is still worth something.....the B4 stepping wont ever happen....They will likely abandon this and move on...

and I really don't understand why people would want something this new on the consumer side of a Linux OS...

[Goodman]

Originally Posted by pantherx12

Proof?

This isn't a bulldozer optimised build of linux, it's just linux.

It's not that rumoured patch everyones been hearing about.


From the article
"In terms of any "sweet spot" or an ideal level of Bulldozer Linux support, it is not there quite yet. Similar to how Microsoft Windows 8 will offer up measurable performance improvements for Bulldozer over Windows 7, the Linux support can also be optimized for this distinct AMD architecture."

Of course i know it's linux lol! can't you read in between the lines?

What i meant by this is no matter what software or OS you are using FX will perform shit in single threads application vs multiple threads & still under perform against Intel 2600k & in some cases worst than PIIx6...

My point is to all the people who believe that a "patch" or Linux will boost in big time the performance of the FX are in for another disappointment

Think Windows 8 work faster?
Think again this is only an Beta version meaning it's slim & not with all the features/software in yet , wait till the final version is out , pack with all the extras (Areo & all) you then see very little performance differences between Win7 & Win8

People are expected to much out of a "patch" & Win8 , it won't be anywhere impressive...

FX is what it is & no software or OS will change that period!