Battlefield 3 Clubhouse - Page 316

Crap Daddy · Oct 28, 2011, 12:03 PM

Testing CPU and GPU in Battlefield 3 at Techspot gives some interesting results.
Basically a Sandy dual core or an AMD A6-3650 paired with a GTX580 will perform on par with all the big guns in gaming CPUs. So no, you don't need a quad or "octo" core to play this game well. You need a strong GPU.

http://www.techspot.com/review/458-b...nce/page7.html

Horrux · Oct 28, 2011, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Testing CPU and GPU in Battlefield 3 at Techspot gives some interesting results.
Basically a Sandy dual core or an AMD A6-3650 paired with a GTX580 will perform on par with all the big guns in gaming CPUs. So no, you don't need a quad or "octo" core to play this game well. You need a strong GPU.

http://www.techspot.com/review/458-b...nce/page7.html

Interesting, but CPU tests should always be performed at the lowest image quality settings possible, in order to make the CPU work hardest. As it is, what we are seeing is most likely GPU bottlenecking, except for the weakest CPUs.

brandonwh64 · Oct 28, 2011, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrigleyvillain

Turn off Post too and see if you notice a diff. I found it crisper and better looking in general and wondering If I'm right. I'm running just 2X MSAA now.

I have it off. With the card OCed I hover around 50 FPS, in wide open areas with 64 player i may dip to 45FPS but I have everything on high with 2xmsaa 16x AF and HBAO on

the54thvoid · Oct 28, 2011, 02:13 PM

Think i'll make some space on my SSD and remove BFBC2.

I personally find this much more rewarding and frustrating which means i like it. I've tinkered with my mouse dpi, gfx settings and after a few hours gameplay it's like a comfy pair of slippers.

Slippers that fetch me beer and rub my neck when I gets pc posture problems...

johnnyfiive · Oct 28, 2011, 02:35 PM

removed, cause I'm blind.

I didn't even see it brandon, doh.

brandonwh64 · Oct 28, 2011, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyfiive

For anyone wanting detail CPU and GPU consumption for BF3, check out this article on TechSpot.

http://www.techspot.com/review/458-b...nce/page7.html

Good read.

Cliff note, even if you have a dual core Phenom or Athlon, you should be getting more than enough FPS to enjoy a playable experience with a nice video card.

It was posted like 4 posts up :/

Wrigleyvillain · Oct 28, 2011, 02:48 PM

Yeah for Christ's sake people I know you are all excited to share a good link but at least look at a page or two back first. Thats not just picking on Johnny and I know we all miss posts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

I have it off. With the card OCed I hover around 50 FPS, in wide open areas with 64 player i may dip to 45FPS but I have everything on high with 2xmsaa 16x AF and HBAO on

Ok cool but did you notice an IQ difference? Its reported that Post results in kind of a blurriness as I guess that's how it smooths whole image. So when I went from 2x and Medium to 2X and Off it looked a lot crisper and sharper in general I thought. AA itself is decent not great in terms of jaggies but hey I'm only running 2x MSAA. Can't wait to be able to go higher.

Quote:

Originally Posted by the54thvoid

Think i'll make some space on my SSD and remove BFBC2.

Yeah I put it on my SSD too (only 60GB and the first big install of anything besides Windows I've put on it). Of course, loading faster is always good but I'm wondering how much benefit I really get as it's not like you can start a new round as soon as loaded up. I may move it and put Skyrim on there instead next month, idk yet...

brandonwh64 · Oct 28, 2011, 02:53 PM

I seen a lot of difference in stuff like fences and antennas, something like wires that are skinny are not so jagged.

digibucc · Oct 28, 2011, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrigleyvillain

I may move it and put Skyrim on there instead next month, idk yet...

that's what i will do. i just see it being more drive intensive than bf3 is.

brandonwh64 · Oct 28, 2011, 03:09 PM

After some concerns of the slow loading of the OP, I have changed the resolutions of the pictures. Each picture is under 300K and alittle easier on the slower connections.

TheLaughingMan · Oct 28, 2011, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Testing CPU and GPU in Battlefield 3 at Techspot gives some interesting results.
Basically a Sandy dual core or an AMD A6-3650 paired with a GTX580 will perform on par with all the big guns in gaming CPUs. So no, you don't need a quad or "octo" core to play this game well. You need a strong GPU.

http://www.techspot.com/review/458-b...nce/page7.html

The A6-3650 is a quad-core CPU.

REAYTH · Oct 28, 2011, 03:30 PM

Cadaveca!!!!! Did they take you dice developer tag they took mine????

brandonwh64 · Oct 28, 2011, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

The A6-3650 is a quad-core CPU.

I think he was talking about the Athlon X2 they tested which IMO should work fine but some people are trying to play on older 775 dual cores and that is were I see issues in the future. I would like to see a benchmark of those chips as well.

Crap Daddy · Oct 28, 2011, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

The A6-3650 is a quad-core CPU.

I know, but it's in the same price range as a SB dual core which has hyperthreading.

Wrigleyvillain · Oct 28, 2011, 03:42 PM

No dude as Ive tried to explain three times I'm not talking about the effects of applying AA specifically (less jaggies) but rather that turning off Post seemed to make the whole damn image (game) look less blurred and crisper and better. But no one else seems to care so done beating this horse.

cadaveca · Oct 28, 2011, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REAYTH

Cadaveca!!!!! Did they take you dice developer tag they took mine????

Yes, mine is now gone. BASTIDS!!!!

Still got a listing for dude though. I think they screwed up battlelog stats, for sure, as I got 5-6 knife kills, but there is not a lsiting for 5-6 tags, even though there should be. Of course, one of those tags was the DICE Dev one.

MatTheCat · Oct 28, 2011, 03:48 PM

BF3 has hit in the UK at last and well....

The single player, although it does look stunning an is an excellent show case piece, it is basically a pile of stage managed brain dead CoD-esque crap......i got bored of it before even finishing Operation Swordwhatever. BFBC2 was much more fun (single player).

Of course, multiplayer is where it is at and that seems much better.

As i suspected, the flight vehicles feel totally horrible and unnatural to fly. Although I crossed my fingers and preyed for a BF2 style flight system, I knew it was never gonna happen. Preferring to fly with a gamepad, I have come across my first irritation; the game doesn't let you configure your gamepad, instead it wants you to be stuck with (absolutley f-ing shitty) default gamepad controls. After a disasterous outing in the chopper, I decided to go find an empty server to practice on and thus my second irritation; The game doesn't let you move around empty servers, instead you are just stuck to the spot.....I mean WTF are those stupid f-kers thinking about?

So, does anyone have any suggestions as to how someone can learn the flight mechanics without putting his death tally through the roof and/or pissing off other players on a busy populated active server?

REAYTH · Oct 28, 2011, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

yes, mine is now gone. Bastids!!!!

Still got a listing for dude though. I think they screwed up battlelog stats, for sure, as i got 5-6 knife kills, but there is not a lsiting for 5-6 tags, even though there should be. Of course, one of those tags was the dice dev one.

i want my dog tag shaped lollipop!!!

cadaveca · Oct 28, 2011, 03:55 PM

Meh, something is up o ntheir server back-end, as I just got 4 emails about GunClub, for stuff I had received emails for long ago. Other stats also seem broken. Thankfully, I still have that image that I posted in this thread, so I'll try to hit them up and see what's up.

DrunkenMafia · Oct 28, 2011, 03:56 PM

must stop playing BF3.. must sleep.... Just one more game.

On another note I am having major crossfire issues, I can't play at all with crossfire enabled. I have cleaned off all drivers - installed 11.10 preview 3 - installed CAP 4 - disabled ULPS.

Wrigleyvillain · Oct 28, 2011, 04:01 PM

Not quite there yet:

http://bf3stats.com/

REAYTH · Oct 28, 2011, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Meh, something is up o ntheir server back-end, as I just got 4 emails about GunClub, for stuff I had received emails for long ago. Other stats also seem broken. Thankfully, I still have that image that I posted in this thread, so I'll try to hit them up and see what's up.

Please keep me updated with any late breaking news.

Wrigleyvillain · Oct 28, 2011, 05:49 PM

Ok some stuff is going up at bf3stats but still "work in progress". Wish could link direct and dynamically to image in sig; downloading local is making it blurry.

tigger · Oct 28, 2011, 05:56 PM

Scrub me from the club, i have decided not to bother with BF3, i cant stand origin (more unnecessary crap running on my pc) and i don't like the stupid battlelog server browser thing, so feck ea the bunch of wuckfits.

digibucc · Oct 28, 2011, 05:59 PM

that sucks man, hopefully you give it a try at some point. battlelog really isn't bad and i haven't even looked at origin since installing. it's really as simple as loading battlelog and clicking one of the play buttons.

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Oct 28, 2011, 02:35 PM	#7880
johnnyfiive Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,975 (1.60/day) Thanks: 740 Thanked 856 Times in 537 Posts System Specs	removed, cause I'm blind. I didn't even see it brandon, doh. __________________ [o_0] - GO BUCKEYES! ------------------------------------------------------ HEATWARE /MY KEYBOARD / VIDEO OF MY LGA 2011 RIG ------------------------------------------------------ Steam: johnnyfiive ORIGIN: johnny5iive League of Legends: 5iive

Oct 28, 2011, 12:03 PM	#7876
Crap Daddy Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,289 (2.44/day) Thanks: 945 Thanked 963 Times in 671 Posts System Specs	Testing CPU and GPU in Battlefield 3 at Techspot gives some interesting results. Basically a Sandy dual core or an AMD A6-3650 paired with a GTX580 will perform on par with all the big guns in gaming CPUs. So no, you don't need a quad or "octo" core to play this game well. You need a strong GPU. http://www.techspot.com/review/458-b...nce/page7.html

Oct 28, 2011, 02:13 PM	#7879
the54thvoid Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,061 (1.64/day) Thanks: 331 Thanked 870 Times in 506 Posts System Specs	Think i'll make some space on my SSD and remove BFBC2. I personally find this much more rewarding and frustrating which means i like it. I've tinkered with my mouse dpi, gfx settings and after a few hours gameplay it's like a comfy pair of slippers. Slippers that fetch me beer and rub my neck when I gets pc posture problems...

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Oct 28, 2011, 02:53 PM	#7883
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Oct 28, 2011, 03:09 PM	#7885
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Oct 28, 2011, 03:30 PM	#7887
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Oct 28, 2011, 03:42 PM	#7890
Wrigleyvillain Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,503 (2.20/day) Thanks: 1,525 Thanked 1,576 Times in 1,119 Posts System Specs	No dude as Ive tried to explain three times I'm not talking about the effects of applying AA specifically (less jaggies) but rather that turning off Post seemed to make the whole damn image (game) look less blurred and crisper and better. But no one else seems to care so done beating this horse. __________________ “i dont care what consoles have they dont have mouse and keyboard” -crazyeyesreaper

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Oct 28, 2011, 03:48 PM	#7892
MatTheCat Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 844 (0.47/day) Thanks: 171 Thanked 130 Times in 98 Posts System Specs	BF3 has hit in the UK at last and well.... The single player, although it does look stunning an is an excellent show case piece, it is basically a pile of stage managed brain dead CoD-esque crap......i got bored of it before even finishing Operation Swordwhatever. BFBC2 was much more fun (single player). Of course, multiplayer is where it is at and that seems much better. As i suspected, the flight vehicles feel totally horrible and unnatural to fly. Although I crossed my fingers and preyed for a BF2 style flight system, I knew it was never gonna happen. Preferring to fly with a gamepad, I have come across my first irritation; the game doesn't let you configure your gamepad, instead it wants you to be stuck with (absolutley f-ing shitty) default gamepad controls. After a disasterous outing in the chopper, I decided to go find an empty server to practice on and thus my second irritation; The game doesn't let you move around empty servers, instead you are just stuck to the spot.....I mean WTF are those stupid f-kers thinking about? So, does anyone have any suggestions as to how someone can learn the flight mechanics without putting his death tally through the roof and/or pissing off other players on a busy populated active server?

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Oct 28, 2011, 03:55 PM	#7894
cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,771 (4.14/day) Thanks: 4,487 Thanked 5,217 Times in 3,207 Posts System Specs	Meh, something is up o ntheir server back-end, as I just got 4 emails about GunClub, for stuff I had received emails for long ago. Other stats also seem broken. Thankfully, I still have that image that I posted in this thread, so I'll try to hit them up and see what's up.

Oct 28, 2011, 03:56 PM	#7895
DrunkenMafia Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cairns QLD, Aussie Posts: 1,868 (0.80/day) Thanks: 230 Thanked 239 Times in 215 Posts System Specs	must stop playing BF3.. must sleep.... Just one more game. On another note I am having major crossfire issues, I can't play at all with crossfire enabled. I have cleaned off all drivers - installed 11.10 preview 3 - installed CAP 4 - disabled ULPS. __________________

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Oct 28, 2011, 04:01 PM	#7896
Wrigleyvillain Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,503 (2.20/day) Thanks: 1,525 Thanked 1,576 Times in 1,119 Posts System Specs	Not quite there yet: http://bf3stats.com/ __________________ “i dont care what consoles have they dont have mouse and keyboard” -crazyeyesreaper

Oct 28, 2011, 05:49 PM	#7898
Wrigleyvillain Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,503 (2.20/day) Thanks: 1,525 Thanked 1,576 Times in 1,119 Posts System Specs	Ok some stuff is going up at bf3stats but still "work in progress". Wish could link direct and dynamically to image in sig; downloading local is making it blurry. __________________ “i dont care what consoles have they dont have mouse and keyboard” -crazyeyesreaper

Oct 28, 2011, 05:56 PM	#7899
tigger I'm the only one Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: HU5 1LL Posts: 7,202 (2.75/day) Thanks: 473 Thanked 950 Times in 779 Posts System Specs	Scrub me from the club, i have decided not to bother with BF3, i cant stand origin (more unnecessary crap running on my pc) and i don't like the stupid battlelog server browser thing, so feck ea the bunch of wuckfits. __________________ http://img.techpowerup.org/110324/v6351cpuzvalj197.jpg ]Monster E6300 oc http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/2163.html

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Oct 28, 2011, 05:59 PM	#7900
digibucc Join Date: May 2009 Location: In the mountains :) Adirondacks in NY (US) Posts: 3,708 (2.54/day) Thanks: 4,542 Thanked 1,447 Times in 1,040 Posts System Specs	that sucks man, hopefully you give it a try at some point. battlelog really isn't bad and i haven't even looked at origin since installing. it's really as simple as loading battlelog and clicking one of the play buttons. __________________ Donate to TPU TeamSpeak Server TPU TS: ts21.gameservers.com:9207 PSN / XBL / Steam = digibucc \| Origin / BF3 = digibuc

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