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[Kreij]

I understand what you are saying, Bta, and given that W1zz thanked you on the post he agrees with you.
I guess I feel that the people who come to TPU are looking for three things; hardware help, software help and gaming help. It is because of this that I feel the sections I mentioned would be useful to the TPU members.

I'm still trying to come up with a vision for GPU that would make it stand out, as I feel that there is still room in the gaming website realm to be something new and innovative. I also think that there is room to have a software site that caters to users in a better way than what's out there. Perhaps W1zz is looking to expand upon the offerings available to TPU members, perhaps not. But until he completely bails out on the idea of moving into new areas, I will ponder it. It's more of a mental challenge than playing Sudoku,

I could create my own site, but I like the TPU community and the way everything here is run. It is my opinion that there is no better place to come for assistance and community than TPU. It is for that reason that I would rather help build W1zz's empire than start a new one.

[W1zzard]

Originally Posted by Kreij

Perhaps W1zz is looking to expand upon the offerings available to TPU members, perhaps not.

always, but need vision, strategy, implementation ideas and manpower

[Kreij]

Originally Posted by W1zzard

always, but need vision, strategy, implementation ideas and manpower

YHPM

[Kreij]

As far as the original intent if this thread goes, I think the news coverage has been exceptional.
The coverage has been not just timely, but better than the "big" sites. It is my personal opinion that the content of the news is more objective and to the point than almost all of the other sites I visit.

I think that the member's responses are for the most part on topic and within what I would consider appropriate.
I think the overall way that TPU is managed has a lot to do with the attitude of it's members and how they respond and reply to threads. There are times when things run amock, but that is usually the exception, not the rule, and the mods do a fine job of keeping things well in hand.

All in all, excellent job everyone!

@Bta, I think you should make up fake news stories once in a great while to keep us on our toes. They will probably be picked up by major news channels in the US as real. lol

[Polaris573]

Originally Posted by Fitseries3

i'd be interested to see the daily hit count to see if less people visit on TPU on the weekends due to little to no news. just curious.

There are less people logged into the forums Friday night through the weekend. However, I'm certain it's because people what to get out and do something on the weekend rather than cruise forums.

[wolf]

Just wanted to pop in here and say that I am really liking the news content at the moment, in particular the addition of qubits articles.

This site always had, and still has, all the news I want and come here for about hardware and gaming, but now qubit has brought in a whole different angle on the news, in respect to the articles he posts. As oppose to straight up information some of them have contained a lot of food for thought and discussion in the area below.

Special mention to qubit but it is the whole news team, guys you are doing better than ever!

[qubit]

Originally Posted by wolf

Just wanted to pop in here and say that I am really liking the news content at the moment, in particular the addition of qubits articles.

This site always had, and still has, all the news I want and come here for about hardware and gaming, but now qubit has brought in a whole different angle on the news, in respect to the articles he posts. As oppose to straight up information some of them have contained a lot of food for thought and discussion in the area below.

Special mention to qubit but it is the whole news team, guys you are doing better than ever!

Thankyou very much wolf, it's great to feel appreciated!

I think having a different angle from a second writer (me, in this case) makes for more interesting and varied news stories. And if we should get a third writer, then so much the better!

[Damn_Smooth]

I appreciate the site and every person that contributes to making it what it is. I have no issues with the way things are written by anybody and I appreciate all of the news stories. Even if it's something I don't want to hear cough*Bulldozer failing*cough. Keep up the good work guys, you truly do make this the best site on the web.

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by wolf

Just wanted to pop in here and say that I am really liking the news content at the moment, in particular the addition of qubits articles.

This site always had, and still has, all the news I want and come here for about hardware and gaming, but now qubit has brought in a whole different angle on the news, in respect to the articles he posts. As oppose to straight up information some of them have contained a lot of food for thought and discussion in the area below.

Special mention to qubit but it is the whole news team, guys you are doing better than ever!

I have to respectfully disagree. While qubit's passion is obvious, the fact that his opinion completely washes over the actual "news" he's trying to report can be irritating. It's one thing to have an opinion, but it's quite another to beat you over the head with it under the guise of reporting news. His latest Ubisoft post is a perfect example. He spends the entire article bashing the very DRM that's he's supposed to be reporting is not being used anymore.

If you're going to report news, do it. If you're going to write editorials don't call it news. If I want someone on a soapbox I'll read an Nvidia vs ATi thread.

[qubit]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

I have to respectfully disagree. While qubit's passion is obvious, the fact that his opinion completely washes over the actual "news" he's trying to report can be irritating. It's one thing to have an opinion, but it's quite another to beat you over the head with it under the guise of reporting news. His latest Ubisoft post is a perfect example. He spends the entire article bashing the very DRM that's he's supposed to be reporting is not being used anymore.

If you're going to report news, do it. If you're going to write editorials don't call it news. If I want someone on a soapbox I'll read an Nvidia vs ATi thread.

Thanks for your view, much appreciated. Thing is, with any non-neutral and bland style of reporting, it's gonna be like Marmite - some love it, some hate it.

An editorial is something like my article Are The Days Of DRM Numbered? which I actually marked as an editorial and you can see the difference there in reporting there. Note that the "Editorial" logo only appears on the front page, unfortunately.

[Radical_Edward]

qubit I like your work, honestly the people that hate on it seem to have a disposition to be the guy/gal that hates on everything.

Basically, keep up the good work.

[qubit]

Originally Posted by Radical_Edward

qubit I like your work, honestly the people that hate on it seem to have a disposition to be the guy/gal that hates on everything.

Basically, keep up the good work.

Thankyou!

[mediasorcerer]

Im fairly new here, so my opinion is not as worthy as some longer term members of course, that said, this is a great place to hang out on the net im finding. Good atmosphere. great news articles and great content, thanks for providing for to me. I am very grateful.

[garyinhere]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

While qubit's passion is obvious, the fact that his opinion completely washes over the actual "news" he's trying to report can be irritating.

I hear if ya post anything that conflicts with his news or debate his opinion that he will report all of your posts, after a lengthy back and forth, until people get infracted. This is the biggest reason why I avoid his news posts... That being said he is a decent guy and is new at the news so passion might be clouding judgement on his part.

Originally Posted by qubit

An editorial is something like my article Are The Days Of DRM Numbered? which I actually marked as an editorial

If I remember right you only marked as an editorial after a lot of people bitched about it not being news.

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by qubit

Thanks for your view, much appreciated. Thing is, with any non-neutral and bland style of reporting, it's gonna be like Marmite - some love it, some hate it.

An editorial is something like my article Are The Days Of DRM Numbered? which I actually marked as an editorial and you can see the difference there in reporting there. Note that the "Editorial" logo only appears on the front page, unfortunately.

Maybe our ideas of editorials differ then; my idea of news isn't one sentence of news, two paragraphs (or what passes for paragraphs in your particular writing style.) I'm not saying you shouldn't voice an opinion; that's fine and dandy. It's just that your opinion shouldn't be the central focus of a news article unless you're trying out for a job at Fox News Channel. One man's opinion, I suppose.

Originally Posted by Radical_Edward

qubit I like your work, honestly the people that hate on it seem to have a disposition to be the guy/gal that hates on everything.

Basically, keep up the good work.

Yeah, because I definitely have a reputation around here as someone that hates on everything.

[SK-1]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

Yeah, because I definitely have a reputation around here as someone that hates on everything.

You got called out Don....see, can't hide all the hate forever.

[qubit]

Originally Posted by garyinhere

I hear if ya post anything that conflicts with his news or debate his opinion that he will report all of your posts, after a lengthy back and forth, until people get infracted. This is the biggest reason why I avoid his news posts... That being said he is a decent guy and is new at the news so passion might be clouding judgement on his part.



If I remember right you only marked as an editorial after a lot of people bitched about it not being news.

Wrong and wrong, my friend. And here's why.

1 You can be as conflicting as you like and disagree as much as you like. The people that may have got nailed are the ones who were just throwing cheap insults at me and were generally thread crapping with personal attacks towards me. Doing this is against the standard forum rules for anyone, hence the mods err, moderated. I've had people give me scathing replies, but with an attempt at constructive criticism and I'm fine with that. Heck, in some cases I've even thanked such posts!

2 No, I'll mark something as an editorial if it really is an editorial. I think there was one article where people convinced me that it should be marked that way, so I did. That's only taking on board what people are saying, not bowing to pressure. So, I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't aren't I? For example, I posted Are The Days Of DRM Numbered? the other day as an editorial straight off, because that's the kind of article I intended it to be. In the end, the line between an editorial and a standard news article is a blurred one, since an editorial is often based on news.

So, the long and the short of it is, you're very welcome to post as much as you like in my news threads and can feel free to "call me out" on anything you disagree with. I may well strongly disagree with you, but hey, discussing stuff is what we have a forum for! Avoiding cheap personal attacks and staying within the forum rules is the only requirement.

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

Maybe our ideas of editorials differ then; my idea of news isn't one sentence of news, two paragraphs (or what passes for paragraphs in your particular writing style.) I'm not saying you shouldn't voice an opinion; that's fine and dandy. It's just that your opinion shouldn't be the central focus of a news article unless you're trying out for a job at Fox News Channel. One man's opinion, I suppose.

The key thing to remember is that my news style is like Marmite: you either love it or hate it. If I went all bland and boring(tm), trust me, I'd have fans of my current writing style calling me out on that too, lol.

And believe it or not, writing news without the commentary is actually easier and quicker, because you're just regurgitating something you've seen or read. My articles put food for thought in with the news I'm reporting and that takes a lot more time, effort and concentration.

Now, if I make a factual error in the article, such as a wrong date or something, then I appreciate being advised of this, so I can fix it poste haste.

[Radical_Edward]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

Yeah, because I definitely have a reputation around here as someone that hates on everything.

My post was a bit too vague. Some of the people that were posting came across as much. But if you want to put your hat in with theirs, that's your call.

I'm not going to call anyone out directly, as it's not my style. I personally dislike conflict in general and much prefer that people just get along.

[mediasorcerer]

Originally Posted by Radical_Edward

My post was a bit too vague. Some of the people that were posting came across as much. But if you want to put your hat in with theirs, that's your call.

I'm not going to call anyone out directly, as it's not my style. I personally dislike conflict in general and much prefer that people just get along.

This is how i feel too, well said if you dont mind me commenting.

[btarunr]

Originally Posted by garyinhere

If I remember right you only marked as an editorial after a lot of people bitched about it not being news.

That's because he didn't even know the editorial marker existed, until I marked it (on that particular editorial piece).

I'll blame the rest on the fact that I'll be 5 1/2 hours ahead of qubit to reach ZOMG2012.

[Kreij]

Originally Posted by garyinhere

I hear if ya post anything that conflicts with his news or debate his opinion that he will report all of your posts, after a lengthy back and forth, until people get infracted.

The posts in news articles are no different than the posts in any other section.
If the posts violate the ettiquette posting guidelines of TPU, then a response by the mods may occur (ie. Name calling, thread crapping, excessive obsenity etc. etc.)
It is still our perogative to deal with reported posts or not. There are reported posts that result in no action because it is just someone being butthurt when no warnable or infractionable action has occurred.
As in all threads, if the back and forth responses anger you to the point where you lose control and violate the guidelines, then it is prudent to not stay involved in the thread long enough to reach that point. No one is making you cross the line or forcing you to stay involved in any discussion.

This is not directed at anyone in particular ... just a general tip from yer ol' Uncle Kreij

[garyinhere]

Originally Posted by Kreij

The posts in news articles are no different than the posts in any other section.
If the posts violate the ettiquette posting guidelines of TPU, then a response by the mods may occur (ie. Name calling, thread crapping, excessive obsenity etc. etc.)
It is still our perogative to deal with reported posts or not. There are reported posts that result in no action because it is just someone being butthurt when no warnable or infractionable action has occurred.
As in all threads, if the back and forth responses anger you to the point where you lose control and violate the guidelines, then it is prudent to not stay involved in the thread long enough to reach that point. No one is making you cross the line or forcing you to stay involved in any discussion.

This is not directed at anyone in particular ... just a general tip from yer ol' Uncle Kreij

I hear ya we all just need to take these forums as a grain of salt... I try to get along the majority of the time. ie. don't get butthurt

[Yukikaze]

Since commenting on the quality of news posts in the news posts seems to frowned upon, I'll just avoid qubit's articles as are they are unprofessional, irritating and over the top in just about any case where he seems to have a strong personal view.

Why is that you can do this just fine:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=155327

But end up with this at others?
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=155317

btarunr's news posts are excellent and all a news post should be. qubit's ones may read like his personal blog as opposed to the front page of TPU and are severely degrading the quality of the main page.

Just my 2c.

[erocker]

Originally Posted by Yukikaze

Since commenting on the quality of news posts in the news posts seems to frowned upon, I'll just avoid qubit's articles as are they are unprofessional

Apparently this practice of sensationalizing news and injecting lame opinion into news is okay to do here, so I'm just going to stay out from now on as well. I mean really, is this what you want Btarunr? From what I gather you are the head of this news department and your news posts seem to be to the point and void of unecessary opinion. Why the change with the new guy? DO you really think it brings in more people? I can see the extra news stories posted on weekends and such without the unecessary opinon bringing in people as well. If I have to roll my eyes any more at some of the "news" being produced here I'm afraid my eyes will give out and I won't be able to read at all.

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Either way (and ive mentioned this in one of qubits other articles) people should NOT be bashing him in the thread.

Originally Posted by CrAsHnBuRnXp

The way i see it, if youre going to bitch about it, take it to PM's and leave it out of the main thread. The thread is there for news and your opinion ON THE NEWS. Not on how the news is written. It doesnt look good for newcomers to the site.

Isnt that basically what Bta said on page 1 post 1?