AMD FX 4100 -Unlocked to 8-Cores?

[Super XP]

Is this possible? Somebody on newegg posted that he managed to unlock all 8 cores in the FX 4100. Some other site claims that you are more likely to unlock these into 6 cores vs. 8 cores due to the large 8MB of L3 cache. Can anybody varify this? Or do we have a hidden GEM

LINKS:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...=AMD%20FX-4100
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=690548
http://www.techjamaica.com/forums/sh...CPU-to-8-Cores

Pros: Unlocked all 8 cores without a problem. Running at 3.9GHZ

Cons: None really.

Other Thoughts: Other people aren't having much luck unlocking these. If you have the sabertooth you are going to need the beta bios upgrade.

[Damn_Smooth]

I have no idea if that's true or not but I have to say that I admire your faith in Bulldozer's ability to be a good chip. I don't share it, but I admire it.

[jmcslob]

Uhm the person who claims to have unlocked it isn't a verified owner...
I call BS on this...and this thread...Sorry it's getting Pathetic.

[LordJummy]

Originally Posted by jmcslob

Uhm the person who claims to have unlocked it isn't a verified owner...
I call BS on this...and this thread...Sorry it's getting Pathetic.

What's getting pathetic?

Do you mean talking about bulldozer is pathetic? Just curious what you mean exactly

[cadaveca]

I have FX-4100. Wil ltry a few boards and see. So far though, no such luck.

[Super XP]

I wonder if we can find detailed design schematic of the FX 4100, it may very well be an 8-core Bulldozer but either 2 full modules are turned off or fused off.

[TRWOV]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

I have no idea if that's true or not but I have to say that I admire your faith in Bulldozer's ability to be a good chip. I don't share it, but I admire it.

It is a good chip. Not as good as people wanted it to be, though.

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

It is a good chip. Not as good as people wanted it to be, though.

In comparison to what?

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

In comparison to what?

Phenom II X4...

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

In comparison to what?

Price/Performance. But so far we've seen them overpriced everywhere and people that do not know the facts are buying them for more money than they should.

Anyhow, here's the Bulldozer 8-Core DIE:
http://img.techpowerup.org/111103/AMD-FX-CPU-Die.jpg

And here is another pic of the 8-Core with the 8MB of L3 cache. But the 4-Core also has 8MB L3 cache.
http://img.techpowerup.org/111103/bulldozer_2-l.jpg

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Phenom II X4...

So you think your 4100 can take the old trusty Phenom II do ya?

Originally Posted by Super XP

Price/Performance. But so far we've seen them overpriced everywhere and people that do not know the facts are buying them for more money than they should.

Anyhow, here's the Bulldozer 8-Core DIE:
http://img.techpowerup.org/111103/AMD-FX-CPU-Die.jpg

Price/performance is horrible in comparison to what's out there. Even at MSRP.

[xenocide]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

So you think your 4100 can take the old trusty Phenom II do ya?

I don't think it could. 2 Modules < 4 Dedicated Cores.

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by xenocide

I don't think it could. 2 Modules < 4 Dedicated Cores.

True. And you can find cheaper Phenom II x4s.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

So you think your 4100 can take the old trusty Phenom II do ya?

Um, no. My A8-3850 is by far faster than my FX-4100, and both chips cost the same. It's a farce, as the A8-3850 ALSO has a GPU...But the 8150 from a 955BE, say, is a worthy upgrade, for sure.


FX-4100 is a complete waste of silicon with PhenomII chips still on the market. Like, I dunno what to do, review-wise...I am frantically exploring options, TBH.

That said, it's not all that bad..it's just that there is better for the same $$$.

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Um, no. My A8-3850 is by far faster than my FX-4100, and both chips cost the same. It's a farce, as the A8-3850 ALSO has a GPU...But the 8150 from a 955BE, say, is a worthy upgrade, for sure.


FX-4100 is a complete waste of silicon with PhenomII chips still on the market. Like, I dunno what to do, review-wise...I am frantically exploring options, TBH.

That said, it's not all that bad..it's just that there is better for the same $$$.

It's sad. Llano should not be outperforming their high end chips. I still don't understand why they bothered releasing it.

I'm also looking at this strictly for gaming, and an 8150 wouldn't be much of an upgrade for me.

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

So you think your 4100 can take the old trusty Phenom II do ya?

Price/performance is horrible in comparison to what's out there. Even at MSRP.

Now that I don't think so. I agree they are overpriced right now, but at MSRP for the FX 4100 at $119, you can't beat that, add a good affordable AM3+ mobo and some nice $99 of 8GB Ram and you got yourself a nice gaming rig on the cheap that will gain you great OC'ing and above average gaming performance within a Real World Environment. Oh and include budget graphics card, perhaps a HD 6870.
Anyhow, what do you guys think about my previous post? 8MB of L3 cache feeding off 4 cores/2 modules?

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

It's sad. Llano should not be outperforming their high end chips. I still don't understand why they bothered releasing it.

I'm also looking at this strictly for gaming, and an 8150 wouldn't be much of an upgrade for me.

They had to do something with the chips that failed as 8150, 8120, and FX-6100, so it seems that yeilds on these chips are not too great since FX-4100 is so bad.


Gaming, we have one user on the TS daily who went from 955 to 8150, got 10 FPS in BF3. that's nice.

Originally Posted by Super XP

will gain you great OC'ing and above average gaming performance within a Real World Environment.

You clearly do not have one of these chips.

I'm glad I do not base my purchasing decisions on info you give, otherwise, I'd be pretty pissed at you, and hunting you down for revenge. Please do not make such false claims, because that's exactly what they are, false. I can post up the benchmarks to prove it, if you like.

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

They had to do something with the chips that failed as 8150, 8120, and FX-6100, so it seems that yeilds on these chips are not too great since FX-4100 is so bad.


Gaming, we have one user on the TS daily who went from 955 to 8150, got 10 FPS in BF3. that's nice.

That's nice, but it doesn't compare with the jump I'll get from Ivy if Piledriver is more of the same. I'm not upgrading until then.

Originally Posted by Super XP

Now that I don't think so. I agree they are overpriced right now, but at MSRP for the FX 4100 at $119, you can't beat that, add a good affordable AM3+ mobo and some nice $99 of 8GB Ram and you got yourself a nice gaming rig on the cheap that will gain you great OC'ing and above average gaming performance within a Real World Environment. Oh and include budget graphics card, perhaps a HD 6870.
Anyhow, what do you guys think about my previous post? 8MB of L3 cache feeding off 4 cores/2 modules?

The 955be is only $5 more than that and the 830 is $25 less.

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 ...
AMD Phenom II X4 830 Deneb 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cac...

[cadaveca]

Sure. Point remains though.

I do not think it has a place in the upgrade market, but in a new PC, no worries. If you like to OC, for hte fun, then it's good.


BD isn't bad..just overhyped, and poorly marketed. We already know this as fact.

[jmcslob]

Originally Posted by LordJummy

What's getting pathetic?

Do you mean talking about bulldozer is pathetic? Just curious what you mean exactly

Holding onto hope that these chips will be more than they are....I understand Super Xp's hope but these just aren't what they could've or should've been...Like Erocker said These chips aren't an upgrade they are a sidegrade.

Are they garbage? no
Are they worth upgrading from the previous generation? NO
Is another thread about these turds that could give false hope to some unsuspecting person based on a rumor from an unverified owner of a Newegg review worth it? Hell Effing NO!

Get one shred of evidence and then the thread is worth having...Until then what's the point? other than being a Pathetic waste of time.

Sorry but people know that Some AMD chips can unlock and People respect TPU and crap like this finds it's way into Google searches and then someone makes a decision based on some undying Fanboi boys hope that his brand didn't just release a turd...Pathetic is what this thread is and it should be closed and Super XP should be Banned if he starts one more of these stupid BD thread...nuff said


and look what comes up in a Google search Look at the first find

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

They had to do something with the chips that failed as 8150, 8120, and FX-6100, so it seems that yeilds on these chips are not too great since FX-4100 is so bad.


Gaming, we have one user on the TS daily who went from 955 to 8150, got 10 FPS in BF3. that's nice.


You clearly do not have one of these chips.

I'm glad I do not base my purchasing decisions on info you give, otherwise, I'd be pretty pissed at you, and hunting you down for revenge. Please do not make such false claims, because that's exactly what they are, false. I can post up the benchmarks to prove it, if you like.

You bet I don't, though I plan on getting either the 6-core or the 8-core when the price is right. Also I really don't need to have this chip to give info about it out. All I need to do is browse the internet and find sites like newegg/amazon and read real "Positive Reviews" from people. These positive reviews "Greatly" outmatch any negativity about these chips. So by you telling people that this chip sucks is complete rubbish despite the fact you own the chip or not. What you are doing is expressing your own opinion and that is fine.

Also there's is a place for synthetic benchmarks, but they are not perfect.

Anyway this is suppose to be a thread about AMD FX 4100 -Unlocked to 8-Cores?

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

6 cores maybe but all 8 cores, I doubt, just because there is a reason they are locked.

[johnspack]

Gosh they're cute...

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Super XP

Anyway this is suppose to be a thread about AMD FX 4100 -Unlocked to 8-Cores?

Yes, and the post of your that I responded to had nothing do do with that, now did it.

I'm not just expressing my personal opinion, but also my professional one. I didn't pay for the chip, the site you are posting on here did, so really, cost doesn't matter to me..performance does, and the FX-4100 lacks performance in a large way. There's not a single point where there is any real reason to buy one of these chips, as there are better, cheaper, and faster options, even from AMD themselves.

Now, if these chips DID unlock, or some board out there supported it...then maybe...maybe, it might be a good deal, but...no such luck. These chips, suck, whether you want to admit that or not. Personally, doesn't matter to me one bit if they are good or not, especially when I'm not paying for them.

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Yes, and the post of your that I responded to had nothing do do with that, now did it.

I'm not just expressing my personal opinion, but also my professional one. I didn't pay for the chip, the site you are posting on here did, so really, cost doesn't matter to me..performance does, and the FX-4100 lacks performance in a large way. There's not a single point where there is any real reason to buy one of these chips, as there are better, cheaper, and faster options, even from AMD themselves.

Now, if these chips DID unlock, or some board out there supported it...then maybe...maybe, it might be a good deal, but...no such luck. These chips, suck, whether you want to admit that or not. Personally, doesn't matter to me one bit if they are good or not, especially when I'm not paying for them.

Agreed, BD was a spectacular fail bear.