The Official Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim Thread - Page 3

Black Panther · Nov 11, 2011, 03:41 PM

If you have an AMD card, go into Catalyst and check the Mipmap Detail Level in 3D Application settings under Gaming. And Nvidia users do the equivalent (sorry I can't remember offhand)

If that setting is set to "performance" it will override the game settings and you'll get crappy textures even with everything on Ultra!

Here's an example, both with the same ingame settings on Ultra but with no AA:

High Mipmap Detail level - textures are OK

Spoiler

Low Mipmap Detail level - textures are horrible!

Spoiler

LifeOnMars · Nov 11, 2011, 04:02 PM

TBH I think even the highest textures look horrible for a modern game, I understand it's a big world though. Looking forward to a HD texture pack mod in the future ready for when I play the game through.

Cheers for the heads up though BP

kid41212003 · Nov 11, 2011, 04:18 PM

How's the game so far? And why does this thread got stick?

Kreij · Nov 11, 2011, 04:20 PM

I stuck it because there will be a lot of people playing the game and they can conveniently find the thread. I can always unstick it when the novelty wears off.

Wrigleyvillain · Nov 11, 2011, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Panther

If you have an AMD card, go into Catalyst and check the Mipmap Detail Level in 3D Application settings under Gaming. And Nvidia users do the equivalent (sorry I can't remember offhand)

If that setting is set to "performance" it will override the game settings and you'll get crappy textures even with everything on Ultra!

Thanks though this is a general thing everyone should really already be aware of. I only set "Performance" when benching. Whether to set it at Quality or High Quality is different and worthy of some research and testing-- that really depends on the game and your hardware. High Quality is all driver optimizations off and in some well-supported games you can get it running a lot better with little to no IQ sacrifice by choosing Quality instead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeOnMars

Looking forward to a HD texture pack mod.

Indeed. I'm definitely going to need 2GB cards next.

tigger · Nov 11, 2011, 04:55 PM

I cant find this BP, Mipmap Detail Level in 3D Application settings under Gaming.
here's what i have-

Wrigleyvillain · Nov 11, 2011, 05:00 PM

Names been changed; it's the "Catalyst AI" option. Texture Filtering. You are on Quality now. I would try High Quality as there isn't good driver support yet and it may it look a lot better. It also may drop fps a lot though, likely less in the future. Give it a shot...

Note I said we all should generally be already aware of this pretty basic and important driver setting but granted as they changed the option name recently some folks may not be up to speed. Though actually now it's a lot more "layman" friendly as it says "Texture Filtering Quality", imo. I mean, WTF is a mipmap?

tigger · Nov 11, 2011, 05:09 PM

I don't have a high quality setting, unless its on the right with no name on it?

Wrigleyvillain · Nov 11, 2011, 05:21 PM

Yeah wierd there are three "ticks", you are presently on the middle one, and High Quality is all the way to the right (like 99% sure that's what its called). No name on the right?

What version is that?

tigger · Nov 11, 2011, 05:39 PM

Latest 11.10 i believe.

erocker · Nov 11, 2011, 05:51 PM

I think the UI is pretty lame.
Textures aren't too bad, but the geometry sucks at times.
CrossFire works negatively for me.
I don't care, I love this game so far... as it turns out more than sleep and possibly more than my girlfriend.

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Nov 11, 2011, 05:56 PM

Does this game support directx 11? Ive been reading around, and it says yes. However, when I fire up the game, MSI afterburner on screen display state its using DX9? Do I have to enable it somewhere in the options or something?

erocker · Nov 11, 2011, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Of_Iceland

Does this game support directx 11? Ive been reading around, and it says yes. However, when I fire up the game, MSI afterburner on screen display state its using DX9? Do I have to enable it somewhere in the options or something?

Nope. There is a folder in the game that says DX10 though.

tigger · Nov 11, 2011, 06:02 PM

Wonder if they will make it dx11? Looks pretty good for dx10 though.

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Nov 11, 2011, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Nope. There is a folder in the game that says DX10 though.

Yeah, I was also wondering about that.. thought it had dx10 as well, and my setup was forced to run dx9. Sigh.. oh well, perhaps a future patch

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger

Wonder if they will make it dx11? Looks pretty good for dx10 though.

Its not even running on dx10.. just dx9. From the looks of it, engine would really get a performance boost if dx11 was used with 1:1 dx9 effects

Black Panther · Nov 11, 2011, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger

I cant find this BP, Mipmap Detail Level in 3D Application settings under Gaming.
here's what i have-
http://img.techpowerup.org/111111/Capture001.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrigleyvillain

Names been changed; it's the "Catalyst AI" option. Texture Filtering. You are on Quality now. I would try High Quality as there isn't good driver support yet and it may it look a lot better. It also may drop fps a lot though, likely less in the future. Give it a shot...

Note I said we all should generally be already aware of this pretty basic and important driver setting but granted as they changed the option name recently some folks may not be up to speed. Though actually now it's a lot more "layman" friendly as it says "Texture Filtering Quality", imo. I mean, WTF is a mipmap?

No, the Catalyst AI option is the one immediately before it. I tried Catalyst AI too, but I didn't see any difference whether on low, high or in the middle so I left it in the middle. What makes a real difference (as visible in my screenshots on first post of this page) is the 'mipmap' setting:

My Catalyst's 11.9

BondExtreme · Nov 11, 2011, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreij

I stuck it because there will be a lot of people playing the game and they can conveniently find the thread. I can always unstick it when the novelty wears off.

Isn't this thread already official enough? :/

Black Panther · Nov 11, 2011, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BondExtreme

Isn't this thread already official enough? :/

Not really. It's nearly all speculation before the game was released. And it's 50 pages long already. About time that thread got locked actually.

Anyway this is hardly the place to discuss on the worth of sticking the thread or not. This thread is for discussing the experience of Skyrim, after release.

BondExtreme · Nov 11, 2011, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Panther

Not really. It's nearly all speculation before the game was released. And it's 50 pages long already. About time that thread got locked actually.

But if he put 'official' in his thread then that would be a completely different story

Horrux · Nov 11, 2011, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 15th Warlock

Chances are the game was built from the ground up to be played using a console controller...

What do you mean? The game on PC has 8 quick keys. Surely consoles don't have 8... Wait...

BTW I changed my bindings and can't find a way to quick-slot my items... How?

tigger · Nov 11, 2011, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Panther

No, the Catalyst AI option is the one immediately before it. I tried Catalyst AI too, but I didn't see any difference whether on low, high or in the middle so I left it in the middle. What makes a real difference (as visible in my screenshots on first post of this page) is the 'mipmap' setting:
http://img.techpowerup.org/111111/1622.png

My Catalyst's 11.9

I don't have mipmap detail level on cat 11.10, might go back to 11,9 to try it.

theJesus · Nov 11, 2011, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

I don't think the map is canvas. Seems to be textured paper to me.

I agree; I'm rather disappointed by it.

Wrigleyvillain · Nov 11, 2011, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Panther

About time that thread got locked actually.

Agreed.

digibucc · Nov 11, 2011, 07:18 PM

he's right it's paper, but it's thick and i'm definitely not disappointed. then again i wasn't expecting it so...

Kreij · Nov 11, 2011, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Panther

About time that thread got locked actually.

Done on moderator request.

I really don't want all the info split between the two or it's a nightmare to find stuff.

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