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Old Nov 12, 2011, 05:14 PM   #76
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Seriously, I have nothing against MW3. If that is what people want to play, fine. Its not my flavor of game. You are projecting really really hard as i didn't even mention MW3 in my post, so i am not sure why you feel the need to attack me about it. You let your fanboy show there. I was going to PM this so we could privately discuss this, but F^*& that noise.

And You can't have played BF3. Once again, you can give orders. The first person in a squad is squad leader. You can move to an empty squad now. You can kick people from a squad. I know all this because I have done it. You are talking about stuff you don't know about. In game VOIP I have not tried to use so i don't know and way points are gone (I never really used them). So everything you just said there for the second time is based on the BETA and NOT the final release.

I didn't say I didn't care for in game ping. I said I don't need it. I saw my ping before i joined the server. I don't need to be kept up to date about it, but thats me. BF3 is a server based system and your ping will not change much during play. They have even tweaked this further to remove the auto ping adjustment BS from BC2. You do need in game ping for a direct connect system like Modern Warfare as the person you connected will have a far less stable connection than a dedicated server. Ping in game good for MW3, not important for BF3 what so ever.

And while you want to claim I don't know much, you don't know how to calibrate your monitor. That blue tint you are talking about does not exist in my game cause I corrected any odd colors. Whoever took those pictures is techincally savvy, but a bit of a tosser.

And as for misleading. MW1 and MW2 did get several rebalances for weapons and bug fixes. The difference is, you had to pay for the required update in MW2 and it still never fixed several major bugs and exploits. I don't hold this against either title because stuff happens. Every single game needs maintenance. It is the longest part of the software cycle for a reason.

As for the sun not blinding you because its a game??? Really, that is your defense? Once again, for the second time, BF3 was going for a realistic environment. The Sun can blind soldiers in real life, they have the tech now to do it in game, so they did it. Its not a plus or a minus, its just a fact. I personal think including those kinds of touches is what makes BF3 the game it is right now. The one you know nothing about apparently.

I recommend you stick to what you know in this matter, put the fanboy away, and have a simple forum discussion about MW3 breaking this record.
This thread is about MW3 not BF3 which indicates that you are the fanboy. I'm just keeping the discussion on topic here. Yes, MW has had tweaks and I've said as much but the gameplay is essentially the same. All the points I've made to you were to get you to see why MW3 has done well . Not to cater to a MW3 vs BF3.

And you have to admit a lot of your points were rebuffed by the examples I've provided. The blue tint is there. The blinding sunlight is a problem when compared to crysis. The squad leader doesn't do much to promote team play, etc all point to what people don't like about the game and could possibly explain why they prefer MW3 even though it's dated (some believe it to be a rehash of MW2).

MW3 isn't about team play, it never was. It's pure run and gun/lone wolfing and that's what people like. BF3 on the other hand should be all about team play and some of the team play elements left out the game needs to be added back. You think those elements are fine but I tell you that people don't agree with you.

So it's clear we won't agree but what can't be argued are the results. MW3 sold over twice as much as BF3 and there is no denying that. Although the reason will vary it's clear that a bug free, fun game that caters to what people like goes a long way in making a game popular and profitable.

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Old Nov 12, 2011, 06:07 PM   #77
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Off Topic , but i just have to say, on BF3 how do you get blinding sunlight in a tunnel, The main problem in BF3 for me is the light from gun torches or whatever it is, it is really stupid, if someone is pointing it towards you, you cannot see feck all, it needs fixing.

On topic, well done to activision, i may well end up buying this too.

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Wow, so much hate.

It's a fucking game. Same way an i-phone is a great phone but not necessarily everyone's cup of tea (i have an HTC desire and it's lovely) MW3 is a great game but not everyone's cup of tea.

Seriously do we all have to fight over it?

Well done for making a popular franchise.
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Wow, so much hate.

It's a fucking game. Same way an i-phone is a great phone but not necessarily everyone's cup of tea (i have an HTC desire and it's lovely) MW3 is a great game but not everyone's cup of tea.

Seriously do we all have to fight over it?

Well done for making a popular franchise.
Absolutely. And this thread is only about a press release at that! lol

It's only a game. Now, the iPhone on the other hand...
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I'll buy and play both, i don't care for other peoples dislikes.

Don't get me started on the iphone though.
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Im just going to play=whatever comes my way, and enjoy it all as best i can.both mw3 and bf3 are good games.Lucky we are spoilt for choice these days hey?
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I don't want to live on this planet anymore. Tim Tebow, Justin Bieber and CoD.

There is no hope.

I hope the new CS squashes this pos game like a bug, but with so many lamers that call themselves gamers, I doubt it (not that CSS was all that good).
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This thread is about MW3 not BF3 which indicates that you are the fanboy. I'm just keeping the discussion on topic here. Yes, MW has had tweaks and I've said as much but the gameplay is essentially the same. All the points I've made to you were to get you to see why MW3 has done well . Not to cater to a MW3 vs BF3.

And you have to admit a lot of your points were rebuffed by the examples I've provided. The blue tint is there. The blinding sunlight is a problem when compared to crysis. The squad leader doesn't do much to promote team play, etc all point to what people don't like about the game and could possibly explain why they prefer MW3 even though it's dated (some believe it to be a rehash of MW2).

MW3 isn't about team play, it never was. It's pure run and gun/lone wolfing and that's what people like. BF3 on the other hand should be all about team play and some of the team play elements left out the game needs to be added back. You think those elements are fine but I tell you that people don't agree with you.

So it's clear we won't agree but what can't be argued are the results. MW3 sold over twice as much as BF3 and there is no denying that. Although the reason will vary it's clear that a bug free, fun game that caters to what people like goes a long way in making a game popular and profitable.
Nope you are just trolling and I am done playing with children.

Good job MW3 for attracting these kind of people. This is why I don't play you.
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Nope you are just trolling and I am done playing with children.

Good job MW3 for attracting these kind of people. This is why I don't play you.
Name calling does not make a point on the subject . In any case, it's clear that there is room for more then one type of FPS gaming play style.
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Wii was out selling ps3 and xbox dose that mean it's was better? NO.
MW3 = Dressed up casual trash.
BF3 = Playable benchmark for graphics nerds to have a boner and play at the same time.
So many years have gone past and still no modern day FPS is as good as Count Strike was.
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Wii was out selling ps3 and xbox dose that mean it's was better? NO.
MW3 = Dressed up casual trash.
BF3 = Playable benchmark for graphics nerds to have a boner and play at the same time.
So many years have gone past and still no modern day FPS is as good as Count Strike was.
Speaking beyond the truth.

Nothing was as good as blasting that desert eagle and watching flimsy body's shoot across the halls.

But Fuck counter-strike flash bangs, fuckin 20 of them @ once 24/7
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Wii was out selling ps3 and xbox dose that mean it's was better? NO.
MW3 = Dressed up casual trash.
BF3 = Playable benchmark for graphics nerds to have a boner and play at the same time.
So many years have gone past and still no modern day FPS is as good as Count Strike was.
Define "better".

Who gets to set the standard of "good"? Faceless Internet personas? Get over your self-importance, the world is bigger than TPU, hardcore gaming communities and basements.
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Define "better".

Who gets to set the standard of "good"? Faceless Internet personas? Get over your self-importance, the world is bigger than TPU, hardcore gaming communities and basements.
Hmm...you protest someone's attempt to put a standard of "good", but in your prior statement, also asks someone to define (or "set a standard") on what is "better".


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My thoughts

COD MW3
Graphics = Very out dated worse looking that blackops no jump to DX10 or 11
Physx = None bullets though walls ??
Movement = Unrealistic/Fast like you weigh nothing but that's Arcade style movement which i dont mind but i find MW3 feels like it railed compared to blackops.
Team Work = Not needed in any game mode

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Movement = Realistic and slow like your carrying the weight of a real soldier
Team Work = Dependent in most game modes
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Hmm...you protest someone's attempt to put a standard of "good", but in your prior statement, also asks someone to define (or "set a standard") on what is "better".
His own definition of "better" is not universal, that's exactly the point.
Also, good and better are not the same thing. A being better than B doesn't instantly mean it's "good".

Now go back to hugging your loli dakimakura, smartass.
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My thoughts

COD MW3
Graphics = Very out dated worse looking that blackops no jump to DX10 or 11
Physx = None bullets though walls ??
Movement = Unrealistic/Fast like you weigh nothing but that's Arcade style movement which i dont mind but i find MW3 feels like it railed compared to blackops.
Team Work = Not needed in any game mode

BF3
Graphics = Great on par with today's standards
Physx = Great holds the lead with destructible worlds
Movement = Realistic and slow like your carrying the weight of a real soldier
Team Work = Dependent in most game modes
definitely your thoughts

I can throw team work and movement out the window. I completely agree with you on the physx and partially agree with you about the graphics. the graphics arent very out dated but they could definitely be improved
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definitely your thoughts

I can throw team work and movement out the window. I completely agree with you on the physx and partially agree with you about the graphics. the graphics arent very out dated but they could definitely be improved
For today's standards in graphics there out dated they were fine around 2009 when MW2 come out but should be DX10 by now.


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Excellent point! Preventing BF3 from Steam certainly didn't help their cause to compete with MW3. I wonder if we will see it on Steam now?
Which is why I didn't buy it.
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Doesnt matter how many copies this game sold to consoles tards. MW3 sucks.

Qubit had a contest to receive an free copy of this game and hardly anyone cared. You could have given away a ANYTHING and still had a stronger response from the TPU community.
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For today's standards in graphics there out dated they were fine around 2009 when MW2 come out but should be DX10 by now.


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GoldenEye 007 (2010) IW 3.0
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Whats this MW3 Engine more like IW 4.0 renamed to save time.
you do realize that the IW3.0/4.0 engines are renamed Idtech3/Quake3 engines right?? If not says it directly on the back of your games box. "Id Technology Id software, INC"
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Doesnt matter how many copies this game sold to consoles tards. MW3 sucks.

Qubit had a contest to receive an free copy of this game and hardly anyone cared. You could have given away a ANYTHING and still had a stronger response from the TPU community.
Well, I wouldn't say no one cared, but the response was a bit lukewarm, which is odd, considering how well it sold.
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The game leaves alot of people feeling used. If IW/Activision would put more effort into what they do for the COD series then you would not have recycled engine, layout, and story line.
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the response was a bit lukewarm, which is odd, considering how well it sold.
how is that odd? it needs to be bought and experienced in order to have a response to it. it sold because so many people wrongly assumed it would be improved, now you see half the kids who waited hours in line talking about how bad it is, and that takes something special to accomplish imo. those kids are likely to love it no matter what, so they had to screw something up bad to disappoint.
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