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kid41212003 · Nov 16, 2011, 01:43 PM

I just finished watching The Garden of Sinners yesterday...

While I really like it, i'm not really sure it has to start/end that way. I feel there's a more simple way to resolve everything.

The most flawed character is probably Kokutou. He seems unreal as a character for a movie this serious, and he's not a relate-able character. He's perfect for Shiki, but that's his flaw.

The story would fall apart if Kokutou were not what he is, but because he's not a believable character, it makes everything else less believable.

Everything focuses around Shiki, so I guess the other characters were built around her to fit in.

Story: 7.9/10
Characters: 9/10 (would be 10 if it is not for Kokutou)

All Type-Moon related works feel like a big tease.

Fourstaff · Nov 16, 2011, 01:46 PM

When I watched Kara no Kyoukai I didn't bother to assess Kokutou at all, I just "saw the story through his eyes". It doesn't seem too outlandish, other than his obsession with Shiki.

kid41212003 · Nov 16, 2011, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

When I watched Kara no Kyoukai I didn't bother to assess Kokutou at all, I just "saw the story through his eyes". It doesn't seem too outlandish, other than his obsession with Shiki.

I guess his purity at the age of 20 is not believable for me.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/anne_f...01/c001/1.html

The short manga above has something in common. It's not the best, but i think the main "boy" character's course of action is more believable.

de.das.dude · Nov 16, 2011, 02:37 PM

is it pervy? then i might watch LOL

Fourstaff · Nov 16, 2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by de.das.dude

is it pervy? then i might watch LOL

No, you get lots of blood and emotions. Not for people like you

kid41212003 · Nov 16, 2011, 02:57 PM

It's a mood killer.

Fourstaff · Nov 16, 2011, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kid41212003

It's a mood killer.

I don't quite get this, please elaborate. I find myself in the mood to kill after watching

kid41212003 · Nov 16, 2011, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

I don't quite get this, please elaborate. I find myself in the mood to kill after watching

lol

Before watching:

After:

de.das.dude · Nov 16, 2011, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

No, you get lots of blood and emotions. Not for people like you

blood i like
emotions i like too.
so F YEAH!

Cold Storm · Nov 17, 2011, 06:13 PM

I think it's time to do a Marathon of Samurai Champloo... I'm missin' that anime.

kurosagi01 · Nov 17, 2011, 10:11 PM

Unicorn Gundam OVA 4 was pretty good,apologies if i am late to join conversation.
The starting theme tune used was brilliant and the whole development of Banagher was impressive.
Although the ending spiced things up a little even though its been seen in the manga.

Fourstaff · Nov 17, 2011, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurosagi01

Unicorn Gundam OVA 4 was pretty good,apologies if i am late to join conversation.
The starting theme tune used was brilliant and the whole development of Banagher was impressive.
Although the ending spiced things up a little even though its been seen in the manga.

I see you don't belong to the "I read the novels and they f**king changed the story! This is bullshit!" club. Personally I haven't watched EP4 or read the novels yet, but that is what my flatmates said.

kurosagi01 · Nov 17, 2011, 11:10 PM

Well if they did change story fair enough lol lot of anime/OVA changed bits of the manga.

Fourstaff · Nov 17, 2011, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kurosagi01

Well if they did change story fair enough lol lot of anime/OVA changed bits of the manga.

Quoting them "if they changed a bit its fine, but they changed a lot without changing the outcome, why can't they just stick with the story instead?

"

entropy13 · Nov 18, 2011, 02:23 AM

Same thing happened with the Break Blade movies. Didn't reduce it's awesomeness however, like in this case with Gundam Unicorn.

Zubasa · Nov 18, 2011, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Quoting them "if they changed a bit its fine, but they changed a lot without changing the outcome, why can't they just stick with the story instead?

"

Time constrain is the problem, Gundam Unicorn is suppose to end at Ep6 which is not enough to include all the emotional drama and stuff in the novel.
There is simply too much to cover in an anime.
Life is full of compromises I guess.

Edit: Let me explain further.
Gundam Unicorn is to bridge the gap between the events after Char's Counter Attack and the later F91 event and such.
By the time of Gundam F90 and F91 Anaheim Electronics have fallen out of power in favor of the S.N.R.I. and further by the time of V Gundam the Earth Federation have collapsed.
The first is event triggered by what happens in Unicorn and the contents of the Box of La+.
The eventual collapse of the Earth Federation are cause by the same problems faced by the Colonialist in Unicorn, which the E.F. basically treats them like third class citizen or worst.

kid41212003 · Nov 18, 2011, 02:53 PM

Since Fate/Zero and Stay Night will

Spoiler

Fourstaff · Nov 18, 2011, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kid41212003

Since Fate/Zero and Stay Night will

Spoiler

Yes there is, but FSN is

Spoiler

cheesy999 · Nov 18, 2011, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Storm

Movie Rentals:
Netflix: this is a US DVD rental Company

just thought i'd point out Lovefilm (Also known as Amazon since a few weeks ago) has close to 1000 Anime shows and movies now for the UK users who want to rent stuff

http://www.lovefilm.com/browse/film/anime/

kid41212003 · Nov 18, 2011, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Yes there is, but FSN is

Spoiler

I'm not sure if i understand that right. I know Zero is the prequel,

Spoiler

Sakura's past

Spoiler

What i just realized after typing this is that I feel Fate/Zero is a tease for the Heaven's Feel route... and a sequel for FSN is unlikely...

I'm not sure if I like or hate Type-Moon

.

Fourstaff · Nov 18, 2011, 03:55 PM

They might make Heaven's Feel route to a feature length film like UBW, but as of now I don't really care much about speculation. Until they announce whether they are making HF I shall enjoy F/Z and Carnival Phantasm (Episode 8 about Saber is really good).

entropy13 · Nov 18, 2011, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zubasa

Time constrain is the problem, Gundam Unicorn is suppose to end at Ep6 which is not enough to include all the emotional drama and stuff in the novel.
There is simply too much to cover in an anime.
Life is full of compromises I guess.

Edit: Let me explain further.
Gundam Unicorn is to bridge the gap between the events after Char's Counter Attack and the later F91 event and such.
By the time of Gundam F90 and F91 Anaheim Electronics have fallen out of power in favor of the S.N.R.I. and further by the time of V Gundam the Earth Federation have collapsed.
The first is event triggered by what happens in Unicorn and the contents of the Box of La+.
The eventual collapse of the Earth Federation are cause by the same problems faced by the Colonialist in Unicorn, which the E.F. basically treats them like third class citizen or worst.

Aaahh, Uso Evin. The most "imba" Gundam protagonist ever.

kid41212003 · Nov 18, 2011, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

They might make Heaven's Feel route to a feature length film like UBW, but as of now I don't really care much about speculation. Until they announce whether they are making HF I shall enjoy F/Z and Carnival Phantasm (Episode 8 about Saber is really good).

Yeah lol. I think I'm obsessed. I need to watch something less depressed.

cheesy999 · Nov 18, 2011, 06:25 PM

i have some very bad news --> http://www.imdb.com/news/ni18234374/

look at the cast they're thinking of using in the akira remake

djisas · Nov 20, 2011, 07:19 PM

OMFG
C3 ep 8, i stand speechless and impressed by the sheer quality and impressiveness of this great episode...
Fear just put a hell of an impressive show that even Mio from Higurashi would just coward in fear, seriously, that girls can go from moe to Insane fearless killing machine in a heartbeat...
And i was impressed by how great some "illustrated" animation looked in the second part, brilliant!!

Bento also had a cool beach episode, good service...

And Fate zero was quite impressive this week too...

Nov 16, 2011, 01:43 PM	#9101
kid41212003 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Posts: 2,558 (1.43/day) Thanks: 312 Thanked 533 Times in 435 Posts System Specs	I just finished watching The Garden of Sinners yesterday... While I really like it, i'm not really sure it has to start/end that way. I feel there's a more simple way to resolve everything. The most flawed character is probably Kokutou. He seems unreal as a character for a movie this serious, and he's not a relate-able character. He's perfect for Shiki, but that's his flaw. The story would fall apart if Kokutou were not what he is, but because he's not a believable character, it makes everything else less believable. Everything focuses around Shiki, so I guess the other characters were built around her to fit in. Story: 7.9/10 Characters: 9/10 (would be 10 if it is not for Kokutou) All Type-Moon related works feel like a big tease. __________________

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Nov 16, 2011, 02:37 PM	#9104
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Nov 16, 2011, 02:57 PM	#9106
kid41212003 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Posts: 2,558 (1.43/day) Thanks: 312 Thanked 533 Times in 435 Posts System Specs	It's a mood killer. __________________

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Nov 17, 2011, 11:10 PM	#9113
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