The Official Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim Thread

[nt300]

Why no mention about the PC patch update? They better fix this LAA with the latest patch so we can all enjoy more than 2GB.

[Captain.Abrecan]

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[2011/11/22][13:28:25]
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[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by nt300

Why no mention about the PC patch update? They better fix this LAA with the latest patch so we can all enjoy more than 2GB.

The new 4GB Patcher works, though it sounds like BP had some issues with CF and it, but it works great for single cards.

[Black Panther]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

The new 4GB Patcher works, though it sounds like BP had some issues with CF and it, but it works great for single cards.

Yes it works. But if you're using an ATI card and saw improvements when you updated to 11.11a, those improvements will not work if you install the new 4GB LAA patch, irrespective of whether you've got crossfire or not.

(Single card users saw +7 fps, CF users saw +15 to +20 increase in minimum fps --- lol that's why I make a fuss it's too good to lose such performance increase.)

Because it changes the .exe file to skyrim4GB.exe

11.11a will apply its improvements only to TESV.exe ; it will not recognize a file called skyrim4GB.exe to be the same as the TESV.exe

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I haven't yet played again, but I will try to change the filename from Skyrim4GB.exe to TESV.exe and see what happens

[1Kurgan1]

I saw a gain with 11.11a and that gain didnt go away with that new LAA patcher. It does change the exe, but I think it still makes a call to the original launcher, otherwise Steam would say you are playing a Non-Steam game Skyrim, but using that launcher fires up Steam chat and says I am still in a Steam game.

I did a bunch of testing last night on ini and game tweaks and checked FPS after every change, here's my results (LAA was included)

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Vanilla 1.2 Fully Maxed - high-55 low-35
Vanilla 1.2 2x AA - high-61 low-36
Vanilla 1.2 2x AA 12x AF - high-61 low-37
Vanilla as above + no blurs - high- 61 low-38
As Above 8192/4096/4096 Shadows - high-60 low-35
As Above + Trees/LandShadows BlurDefer=2 - high-58 low-36
As Above + Grass Changes - high-60 low-36
As Above + Water Changes - high- 60 low-36
As Above LOD Changes - high-61 low-33
As Above More Grass Changes - high-61 low-33
As Above + fSplitMult 2.5 - high-61 low-32
As Above + Trees Fix - high-61 low-32
As Above + LOD Fade Items - high-61 low-33
As Above + Threaded Tweaks - high-61 low-36

Texture Packs
Landscape - high-59 low-35
Vurts/Enhanced Night/Armor/Clothes/Beautiful - high-59 low-36
All other TPs except eyes - high-60 low-35
Above + LAA - high-60 low-34

[Black Panther]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

I saw a gain with 11.11a and that gain didnt go away with that new LAA patcher. It does change the exe, but I think it still makes a call to the original launcher, otherwise Steam would say you are playing a Non-Steam game Skyrim, but using that launcher fires up Steam chat and says I am still in a Steam game.

I haz a sad.

Mine does. I go from 40 fps to 28 fps. Just tested it using the same save game.

My steam still works fine, I mean I play while having Steam running.

And the 'new LAA patcher' doesn't let me change the name of the .exe file so it's recognized by 11.11a



I hope that what I read about other people having the new LAA not working after doing a 'restore previous version' of the .exe wasn't precise

[3dsage]

Anybody else get an nice increase in fps with the enbpatch while running cfx ?
Also lag is nonexistant with it while running x4AA. I noticed before this patch, cfx and AA I would have microstutteres every 5-10sec's.
Im getting between 40-60fps with this, before I was around 25-40fps..

[nt300]

I applied another patch that tells the game to use more than 2GB if required. The file I edited was the main TESV.exe file not this Skyrim4gb.

http://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comme..._just_patched/

[AphexDreamer]

Man I can't wait for some decent weather mods.

What I really want to see is the streams/rivers becoming more rapid as it rains and the calming down again when its not. Maybe some water puddles, better lighting.

I love rain and I think some dynamic water flows would simply be awesome.

[Ray_Rogers2109]

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

Man I can't wait for some decent weather mods.

What I really want to see is the streams/rivers becoming more rapid as it rains and the calming down again when its not. Maybe some water puddles, better lighting.

I love rain and I think some dynamic water flows would simply be awesome.

Same here and would download this mod. Maybe it's also the reason why I love watching BLADE RUNNER on rainy days. Fits with the movie perfectly.

[jed]

For anyone that's not hardcore tweaking and looking for better FPS... I turned my AA to 0 and can run everything else on ultra except shadows (medium) and it runs smooth as butter. As soon as I put 2x AA back on then the FPS drops drastically. Pretty obvious as there's a zillion edges to smooth but just thought i'd contribute.

[theJesus]

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

Man I can't wait for some decent weather mods.

What I really want to see is the streams/rivers becoming more rapid as it rains and the calming down again when its not. Maybe some water puddles, better lighting.

I love rain and I think some dynamic water flows would simply be awesome.

It would be awesome if the rivers could flood.

[KainXS]

some good news for modders

it seems skyrims lod has the partial landmasses for Cyrodil, High Rock, and Morrowind, we might see some good expansions because of this or modders can simply add in content.
but if you try to go to them you fall through the ground because its not coded in the game.

ima go see how far i can get before i fall to my death ^^

why did they put the tower in cyrodil in the games LOD?

[AphexDreamer]

Originally Posted by KainXS

some good news for modders

it seems skyrims lod has the partial landmasses for Cyrodil, High Rock, and Morrowind, we might see some good expansions because of this or modders can simply add in content.
but if you try to go to them you fall through the ground because its not coded in the game.

ima go see how far i can get before i fall to my death ^^

why did they put the tower in cyrodil in the games LOD?

Wouldn't you need some boarder removing mod like Oblivion needed? That out yet? Or is easy to mod?

[theJesus]

Yeah, you would need to remove the borders somehow. Right now, for me if I try to go too far it stops me and says something like "you cannot go that way"

[KainXS]

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

Wouldn't you need some boarder removing mod like Oblivion needed? That out yet? Or is to mod?

yea but if you want to see what they look like now you can get as close as you can and use tfc in the console to go into camera mode and just fly past the wall

the thing is when you do that the game crashes randomly but you can clearly see a good chunk oh Vvardenfell(or whatever that is) is in the game.

see this is where i got to

[Super XP]

Skyrim: The Iron Fist Expansion Pack to get released sometime in late 2012/early 2013.

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by Black Panther

I haz a sad.

Mine does. I go from 40 fps to 28 fps. Just tested it using the same save game.

My steam still works fine, I mean I play while having Steam running.

And the 'new LAA patcher' doesn't let me change the name of the .exe file so it's recognized by 11.11a

http://img.techpowerup.org/111123/Untitled275.png

I hope that what I read about other people having the new LAA not working after doing a 'restore previous version' of the .exe wasn't precise

Well I just did a more official check of it, comparing 11.11a with 1.1 and 1.2. Like I said my results with 1.2 + LAA and all my other INI and Texturepacks my high was 60 and my low was 34. I reverted TESV.exe to 1.1, applied LAA to it and checked, my High was 57 and my low was 38. So a bit less up top, but a bit more fps down low, which actually might be overall better, I always like raising the low number. But overall, the average fps was about the same.

**EDIT**
Tried going to a capital city running 1.1 with AA and it crashed. So I got a clean install of the game (since my old one had that 4gb launcher that had been used on it), remodded it, reset the ini's, reapplied Fords LAA, and tried again. Was able to load into a capital, checked fps again, and get High - 65, low - 40. So having that 4gb launcher applied to my old install must have messed it up somehow. It does seem you were right, 1.1 is what to stick with, 5 fps gain up top and 6 fps gain down low.

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

Man I can't wait for some decent weather mods.

What I really want to see is the streams/rivers becoming more rapid as it rains and the calming down again when its not. Maybe some water puddles, better lighting.

I love rain and I think some dynamic water flows would simply be awesome.

That does sound cool, but I don't think the rain effects the water at all. It's hard to tell how the water works with the basic water, but if you get Isoku's water then look at a stream, you can see rivers don't actually flow. All water in the game comes from one direction, I don't know how to really word it, so I opened paint and made a crappy drawing.



The blue lines are the way water flows, black lines are the banks of the river. With the big waves in the vanilla game it's hard to tell exactly what direction the water moves. If you bump vanilla water to 2048x2048 it makes it look much better, but still too hard to tell. But once you get a modded water it's pretty apparent (my only gripe about modded water, but it's not their fault that Beth made it flow like that). So all I can assume is there is just a water level stuck under the land and the water sticks to that level, so to make rivers over flow, might be almost impossible. But thats just from looking at it from a non-extremely technical side, I don't know modding, so just looking at it as I see it.

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

Wouldn't you need some boarder removing mod like Oblivion needed? That out yet? Or is easy to mod?

Shouldn't be hard to make, you can remove borders in the commands, someone linked a video earlier of a flight around Tamreil, but it wasn't using TFC, they were flying their character (of course using commands) in first person, they just turned off the borders.

Originally Posted by Super XP

Skyrim: The Iron Fist Expansion Pack to get released sometime in late 2012/early 2013.

I'm assuming you are joking, a google of the name shows absolutely zero results. Either way, would be nice if DLC/Expansions were that far off, would show they are actually putting time into making them like an Expansion should be, not some chinsy DLC.

[LAN_deRf_HA]

Couldn't take it anymore. Got a 580 3 GB for $400. I figure I won't be able to afford the 680, and the 670 def. won't have that much vram. Wonder just how far I'll be able to take the ugrid with that.

[theJesus]

lmfao, I just came across a book in the game called The Lusty Argonian Maid, v1

ACT IV, SCENE III, CONTINUED

Lifts-Her-Tail: Certainly not, kind sir! I am here but to clean your chambers.

Crantius Colto: Is that all you have come here for, little one? My chambers?

Lifts-Her-Tail: I have no idea what it is you imply, master. I am but a poor Argonian maid.

Crantius Colto: So you are, my dumpling. And a good one at that. Such strong legs and shapely tail.

Lifts-Her-Tail: You embarrass me, sir!

Crantius Colto: Fear not. You are safe here with me.

Lifts-Her-Tail: I must finish my cleaning, sir. The mistress will have my head if I do not!

Crantius Colto: Cleaning, eh? I have something for you. Here, polish my spear.

Lifts-Her-Tail: But it is huge! It could take me all night!

Crantius Colto: Plenty of time, my sweet. Plenty of time.

END OF ACT IV, SCENE III

[Wrigleyvillain]

Yeah that book made an appearance as early as Morrowind iirc. Maybe earlier; I didn't play them.

[KainXS]

Plenty of time, my sweet. Plenty of time.

Great man

gotta find that book

[yami2ki]

I sure hope the patch fixes all these bugged quests...

Spoiler

I can't do the Werewolf cure quest, because everytime I accept and try to leave Jorrvaskar with Farkas or Vilkas, the quest goes under "Complete" and Vilkas/Farkas stop following me, turn around and go back in Jorrvaskar, then I can't recruit any followers because it thinks Vilkas/Farkas is still following me. ~Forever Werewolf -__-

...and

Spoiler

The Cidna Mine quest in Marakarth. If you have followers with you when you get tossed into the mine, when you finish the quest and escape, they will keep coming up to you and talking over and over. Killing them and res'ing them with the console won't stop it, fast travel won't stop it, reloading the game won't stop it.

Also, I start out with 45-50 FPS, but after an hour or so of playing the FPS drops to 15-20 and starts to lag and stutter hardcore, I don't know what's causing it... I tried lowering all my settings in the .ini but didn't help at all... Running latest nVIDIA beta drivers too, still don't know what's up...

Sigh.. I wish Bethesda would get their shit together... I expected so much from this game, really thought by now they could release a game that didn't have more bugs than an apartment in the projects...

[burtram]

Originally Posted by yami2ki

Also, I start out with 45-50 FPS, but after an hour or so of playing the FPS drops to 15-20 and starts to lag and stutter hardcore, I don't know what's causing it... I tried lowering all my settings in the .ini but didn't help at all... Running latest nVIDIA beta drivers too, still don't know what's up...

I have a similar issue, after I play the game for decent periods of time, the starts to stutter, and lag like crazy. Granted, just quicksave and restart the game, but still, it is rather annoying.

[crazyeyesreaper]

memory leaks. ^