AMD FX OC'ers Club - Page 27

pantherx12 · Dec 12, 2011, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

At that temp, the CPU is going over the safety margin so Turbo can't work well or for very long. Remember +300 MHz for all cores, +600 MHz for half the cores if and on if the CPU is below the TDP limit for Turbo.

I've set up turbo to only activate on four cores my 8 core turbo mode doesn't exist.

I also have thermal and TDP throttling switched off.

But I'll double check and let you know

Chicken Patty · Dec 12, 2011, 05:36 PM

What's max safe temp for the 8150's? Is it like the Thubans which is between 55-60*C?

pantherx12 · Dec 12, 2011, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

What's max safe temp for the 8150's? Is it like the Thubans which is between 55-60*C?

62 is max temperature stated by AMD.

Aetherius · Dec 12, 2011, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HUSKIE

Just OC'ed from 4.4 to 4.7ghz

Thats awesome!

JustaTinkerer · Dec 12, 2011, 06:45 PM

Built up my PC today

I had not used my water cooling in a year....pump was dead...RIP Vario

Dropped in my 3870x2 (meantime card) not used in about a year.... artifact city...time for the oven.
I have an old 3850 need to do just now.

I dont understand, Im not a kid, 32 years old, been building for 10+ year and I keep all my stuff in the boxes it come in, when I packed the stuff away to move house I was careful, the card and the pump were in different moving boxes so it wasnt a drop that killed them.
I blame the removel men, damn them

So the FX-8120 is good

The ASUS M5A99x EVO nice

8 gig corsair vengeance fine

Me overclocking on stock

Results and pictures up on Thursday I hope.

bucketface · Dec 12, 2011, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

anyone suspect a stepping revision of BD besides the Piledriver due to the miscount of the transistors inside?

from what i read the 1.2B transistor figure is the number of transistors that are serving some function while there are 2B on chip, 800mill don't do anything. at least thats according to x-bit or Fudzilla i don't remember which, thats supposed to be why the die size is still 315mm^2 also each bulldozer core is supposedly only about 60 mill transistors down from the initial esimate of about 91 mill.

also a question, how does the power draw look at under 1.4v? is 1.35v realistic for 4.2ghz with all the powersaving features still active?

Daimus · Dec 12, 2011, 08:55 PM

When I start Cinebench, Linx or something like that appears throttling. Between two and six cores down frequency to 3 GHz and core voltage to 1,2v.
All energy efficient settings in BIOS are off, Turbocore=disabled.
Because of what can that be?

Thanks in advance

erocker · Dec 12, 2011, 08:56 PM

Do you have an APM setting to enable/disable in the bios?

Daimus · Dec 12, 2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Do you have an APM setting to enable/disable in the bios?

Do you mean Cool&Quit, C1, C6? Yes, they are disabled.

erocker · Dec 12, 2011, 09:08 PM

No. My Crosshair V had an APM option. Advanced Power Management. With this enabled I would get the same results as you. With it disabled the clocks were where they should be.

Daimus · Dec 12, 2011, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

No. My Crosshair V had an APM option. Advanced Power Management. With this enabled I would get the same results as you. With it disabled the clocks were where they should be.

Unfortunately my CHIV haven't APM option. Thank you, Erocker, I will wait for new BIOS.

Edit:
I was wrong, CH IV have APM option and it is disabled.

pantherx12 · Dec 12, 2011, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimus

Do you mean Cool&Quit, C1, C6? Yes, they are disabled.

You should give BD a go with those things on, so far I've had no problems having all power saving features turned on ( except APM)

I think there's a beta bios for your board you should google and find out

*edit* I see you found the option, the only other thing is turbo core, it can down-clock other cores in order to over-clock others, is that shut off?

Daimus · Dec 12, 2011, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantherx12

You should give BD a go with those things on, so far I've had no problems having all power saving features turned on ( except APM)

I think there's a beta bios for your board you should google and find out

*edit* I see you found the option, the only other thing is turbo core, it can down-clock other cores in order to over-clock others, is that shut off?

I have the latest BIOS at the present moment, the second for BD, hope that ASUS makes a new one

Thanks for advice, i will turn C&Q and other on.
Turbocore is always disabled, don't now what thing down-clocks some cores. Can it be in AMD Overdrive? I did not find something in AOD.

Irony · Dec 13, 2011, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimus

I have the latest BIOS at the present moment, the second for BD, hope that ASUS makes a new one

Thanks for advice, i will turn C&Q and other on.
Turbocore is always disabled, don't now what thing down-clocks some cores. Can it be in AMD Overdrive? I did not find something in AOD.

I know that if you have CnQ on, by default CCC will have throttling turned on. Its under CPU Power. Also, how hot is it getting? it might be throttling from thermal throttle if thats turned on.

pantherx12 · Dec 13, 2011, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimus

I have the latest BIOS at the present moment, the second for BD, hope that ASUS makes a new one

Thanks for advice, i will turn C&Q and other on.
Turbocore is always disabled, don't now what thing down-clocks some cores. Can it be in AMD Overdrive? I did not find something in AOD.

Well obviously make sure it doesn't effect bench mark scores for your set up, but for mine having the power saving features on had no ill effects.

Just a nice cool running chip when idling and lower power bills

Daimus · Dec 13, 2011, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irony

I know that if you have CnQ on, by default CCC will have throttling turned on. Its under CPU Power. Also, how hot is it getting? it might be throttling from thermal throttle if thats turned on.

It's warm up to 37 c idle and 58 c with IBT running. I should check that thermal throttle is off, thanks!

Edit:
Tryed to run BD at stock frequency at 3,1 then at 3,6 with turbo-core off, the cores throttling disappeared and returned at 4 ggz.

Daimus · Dec 13, 2011, 08:55 AM

So, i've turned off all energy efficient settings off (C'n'Q, APM and other), down-clocked bus speed to default 200 mhz. Frequency is falling down to 2,8.

Then raised bus speed to 291 mhz and throttling is out.

I now it's not a solution but couldn't find another way.
Thanks to all TPU-members!

pantherx12 · Dec 13, 2011, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimus

It's warm up to 37 c idle and 58 c with IBT running. I should check that thermal throttle is off, thanks!

Edit:
Tryed to run BD at stock frequency at 3,1 then at 3,6 with turbo-core off, the cores throttling disappeared and returned at 4 ggz.

In the PC health section of your bios, can you turn on a CPU temperature alarm?

I think that your temperatures might be higher then you think. ( since I can't think of other options)

Set the alarm to go of at 60 degrees and let us know what your what your temperatures say within the OS when the alarm goes off ( if it does)

*edit* didn't read properly, seems you've fixed it? :S

Daimus · Dec 13, 2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantherx12

In the PC health section of your bios, can you turn on a CPU temperature alarm?

I think that your temperatures might be higher then you think. ( since I can't think of other options)

Set the alarm to go of at 60 degrees and let us know what your what your temperatures say within the OS when the alarm goes off ( if it does)

*edit* didn't read properly, seems you've fixed it? :S

CPU temp read is correct, cores temp are incorrect. Alarm was set to go of at 60 degrees. Nothing happened.

Yes i've fixed it.

If bus speed is higher as 290 mhz then are cores clock stable and work without frequency and voltage dropping. Problem is because of my old AM3 chipset, i think so.

pantherx12 · Dec 13, 2011, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimus

CPU temp read is correct, cores temp are incorrect. Alarm was set to go of at 60 degrees. Nothing happened.

Yes i've fixed it.

If bus speed is higher as 290 mhz then are cores clock stable and work without frequency and voltage dropping. Problem is because of my old AM3 chipset, i think so.

Glad it worked out nicely for you

n0tiert · Dec 14, 2011, 04:50 AM

Cinebench 11.5
32bit vs. 64bit @ 4.6 Ghz CPU / 210 Mhz RAM
Turbo core disabled / APM disabled / Bios 9921

32bit / 7.09

64bit / 7.37

bacan · Dec 14, 2011, 07:32 AM

Cinebench R11.5 and new x264 FHD Benchmark v1.0.1 64bit

Super XP · Dec 14, 2011, 09:28 AM

New Official Bios released for the ASUS Crosshair V Formula: Can't wait to get my H100 back from Corsair so I can update using this new bios

CrosshairV-Formula BIOS 1003
"1. Improve memory compatibility
2. Improve system stability"

LINK:
http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD...mula/#download

n0tiert · Dec 14, 2011, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super XP

New Official Bios released for the ASUS Crosshair V Formula: Can't wait to get my H100 back from Corsair so I can update using this new bios

CrosshairV-Formula BIOS 1003
"1. Improve memory compatibility
2. Improve system stability"

LINK:
http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD...mula/#download

what is beta 9921 Bios based on ?

Super XP · Dec 14, 2011, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n0tiert

what is beta 9921 Bios based on ?

From what I know, it's based on the 0813 bios. When I used the 9921 I needed a lot more vCore to OC and my "memory tests" ran unstable at stock speeds. With the 0903 I had no issues what so ever and got a nice full 8-Core OC to 4.40 GHz with a 1.375v. Couldn't get this with the 9921. So once I get my H100 back I am going to update the bios with this newer 1003

which states it further improves memory and system stability/compatability

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Dec 12, 2011, 05:36 PM	#652
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Dec 12, 2011, 06:45 PM	#655
JustaTinkerer Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 264 (0.49/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 73 Times in 60 Posts System Specs	Built up my PC today I had not used my water cooling in a year....pump was dead...RIP Vario Dropped in my 3870x2 (meantime card) not used in about a year.... artifact city...time for the oven. I have an old 3850 need to do just now. I dont understand, Im not a kid, 32 years old, been building for 10+ year and I keep all my stuff in the boxes it come in, when I packed the stuff away to move house I was careful, the card and the pump were in different moving boxes so it wasnt a drop that killed them. I blame the removel men, damn them So the FX-8120 is good The ASUS M5A99x EVO nice 8 gig corsair vengeance fine Me overclocking on stock Results and pictures up on Thursday I hope. __________________ Even after seeing the results for FX chips I still bought one, that tell you how crazy I am Quote from ebay feedback "it wasn't an NVIDIA GTX 550Ti 1GB Card I was sent it was MSI, I wanted NVIDIA " I couldn't stop laughing worth the bad feedback

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Dec 12, 2011, 08:55 PM	#657
Daimus Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: somewhere in Eastern Europe Posts: 482 (0.79/day) Thanks: 3,590 Thanked 464 Times in 262 Posts System Specs	When I start Cinebench, Linx or something like that appears throttling. Between two and six cores down frequency to 3 GHz and core voltage to 1,2v. All energy efficient settings in BIOS are off, Turbocore=disabled. Because of what can that be? Thanks in advance

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Dec 12, 2011, 08:56 PM	#658
erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,883 (12.77/day) Thanks: 2,779 Thanked 12,254 Times in 7,807 Posts System Specs	Do you have an APM setting to enable/disable in the bios?

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Dec 12, 2011, 09:08 PM	#660
erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,883 (12.77/day) Thanks: 2,779 Thanked 12,254 Times in 7,807 Posts System Specs	No. My Crosshair V had an APM option. Advanced Power Management. With this enabled I would get the same results as you. With it disabled the clocks were where they should be.

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Dec 13, 2011, 08:55 AM	#667
Daimus Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: somewhere in Eastern Europe Posts: 482 (0.79/day) Thanks: 3,590 Thanked 464 Times in 262 Posts System Specs	So, i've turned off all energy efficient settings off (C'n'Q, APM and other), down-clocked bus speed to default 200 mhz. Frequency is falling down to 2,8. Then raised bus speed to 291 mhz and throttling is out. I now it's not a solution but couldn't find another way. Thanks to all TPU-members!

Dec 14, 2011, 04:50 AM	#671
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