The Official Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim Thread - Page 123

Black Panther · Dec 23, 2011, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrei23

Where do I get the tesval.dll from then? I don't believe it was included with the skse_loader and everything else.

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4387 is where the Tesval.dll is.

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Edit: I did this fix too but the difference was very minuscule in my case so I didn't even post my findings.

Looking through the arch at the top of the marketplace in Whiterun I get 32 fps without Tesval, 34 fps with Tesval.

Was kinda disappointed after reading about people going from 30 to 50 fps . . .

Must be my processor - since this fix brings on better optimization of the CPU I guess that the modern generation of quads would fare much better when compared to my old E8400 @ 4Ghz...

And running 2560x1440 with a lot of texture mods wouldn't help either I guess?

Andrei23 · Dec 23, 2011, 05:46 PM

Ok I now have the tesval.dll in my data/skse/plugins and to be honest I only felt a very mild improvement, might just be placebo, I can still see the fps dropping to as little as 21 in towns which is pretty much what I had before. So yeah...

Irony · Dec 23, 2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by radrok

I'd start with :
Skyrim HD Textures : http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=607
Serious HD Retexture Landscape : http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2146
Enhanced Blood Textures :http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=60
Enhanced Distant Terrain : http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1598
Deadly Spell Impacts : http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2947

The texture mods linked to are great. And the distant terrain. I don't have hardly any framerate drop using those three. My lowest is 41 I think. But it stays pegged at 60 virtually everywhere.

I haven't used very many other mods, I mostly just want it to look pretty.

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Originally Posted by jonathan1107

Cause I'm trying to find out how much "VRAM" I'm using in skyrim (not RAM) I don't see where in GPU-Z I can see this... I have Clocks... GPU usage... and VRAM temp... but I don't see VRAM usage... unless it's the same than GPU usage.

Open GPU-Z and click on sensors. It shows how much dedicated memory you are using, among other things.

Black Panther · Dec 23, 2011, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Irony

Open GPU-Z and click on sensors. It shows how much dedicated memory you are using, among other things.

Is there some other type of application you'd suggest to measure vram usage? GPU-Z doesn't report it correctly for crossfire (I made a thread about this in the GPU-Z forum) and apparently Afterburner's vram usage works only for Nvidia and not AMD?

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Also, what is the best 'male faces' mod you would suggest? With good textures and which makes them more handsome and alluring?

Seems the modding community is solely concentrated on improving only the females' looks

horik · Dec 23, 2011, 06:46 PM

first time i checked the CPU usage with this game and saw a 30-40% usage,is this normal?

radrok · Dec 23, 2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Panther

Is there some other type of application you'd suggest to measure vram usage? GPU-Z doesn't report it correctly for crossfire (I made a thread about this in the GPU-Z forum) and apparently Afterburner's vram usage works only for Nvidia and not AMD?

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Also, what is the best 'male faces' mod you would suggest? With good textures and which makes them more handsome and alluring?

Seems the modding community is solely concentrated on improving only the females' looks

Afterburner Vram monitoring works for me on AMD, shows the sum of the Crossfired cards though

EDIT: For the male textures you should take a look at this WARNING NSFW

pantherx12 · Dec 23, 2011, 07:24 PM

When using SKSE do I have to load it via it's own EXE every time?

By the way, that frame rate patch is AMAZING!

Got a 42% improvement to my frame rate as I enter into Whiterun

Going to run round Marketh like a mad man now, with no slow downs.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

ViperXTR · Dec 23, 2011, 07:40 PM

@Andrei23: the optimizatiion tweak is only more noticeable on cities specifically the slowest parts

Irony · Dec 23, 2011, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Panther

Is there some other type of application you'd suggest to measure vram usage? GPU-Z doesn't report it correctly for crossfire (I made a thread about this in the GPU-Z forum) and apparently Afterburner's vram usage works only for Nvidia and not AMD?

_______________________

Also, what is the best 'male faces' mod you would suggest? With good textures and which makes them more handsome and alluring?

Seems the modding community is solely concentrated on improving only the females' looks

I didn't know about the CF thing.

I guess you could just look at percentage and guess approximately how much is being used.

Theres GPU meter, its a windows gadget. It doesn't work with my 6770, (6770s seem to be in a forgotten crack; I've never seen one on a compatability chart) It should work with any other card though. \/ Its a download link
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...er_V1.1.gadget

MxPhenom 216 · Dec 23, 2011, 09:41 PM

2 more days till this game is going to devour me!

Irony · Dec 23, 2011, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nvidiaintelftw

2 more days till this game is going to devour me!

You will be utterly consumed. You'll spend every moment at home Skyrimming and modding, and every moment away from it wishing you were home.

I infected my friend with it, he's totally addicted now.

Andrei23 · Dec 23, 2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperXTR

@Andrei23: the optimizatiion tweak is only more noticeable on cities specifically the slowest parts

I was referring to my min fps in cities ofc. I get 60 fps everywhere else pretty much all the time. It's just the odd bit in a city where I get random slow down. Who knows, this thing might even be working, but the impact it is making might be so minuscule that I don't even notice it doing anything. Still a great game

Super XP · Dec 23, 2011, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irony

You will be utterly consumed. You'll spend every moment at home Skyrimming and modding, and every moment away from it wishing you were home.

I infected my friend with it, he's totally addicted now.

How to Cope with Skyrim Addiction
http://www.gamerevolution.com/manife...addiction-9753

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantherx12

When using SKSE do I have to load it via it's own EXE every time?

By the way, that frame rate patch is AMAZING!

Got a 42% improvement to my frame rate as I enter into Whiterun

Going to run round Marketh like a mad man now, with no slow downs.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

Nothing like the power of those Bulldozer's

Irony · Dec 23, 2011, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super XP

How to Cope with Skyrim Addiction
http://www.gamerevolution.com/manife...addiction-9753

Thats awesome.

The only reason I tab out of skyrim is to check on TPU.

AsRock · Dec 24, 2011, 12:21 AM

Got a extra 5 fps though that mod.

Irony · Dec 24, 2011, 12:28 AM

Mind if I deviate momentarily?

Does anyone know if two 6770s will work without a crossfire bridge? I have a second here, and I want to know if it will hurt anything to install them without a bridge. Because the idiot thing came without a bridge.

I got it to play skyrim, so thats how it applies

random · Dec 24, 2011, 12:33 AM

on ultra at the top of white run ... 15 fps without the patch, 15 fps with it, I've must have done something wrong, I've copied all the DLL's to the correct places but I am not sure what to do with SRC folder and such I assume that is just code that can be thrown away... anyhow on my lappy seeing little difference.

erocker · Dec 24, 2011, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irony

Mind if I deviate momentarily?

Does anyone know if two 6770s will work without a crossfire bridge? I have a second here, and I want to know if it will hurt anything to install them without a bridge. Because the idiot thing came without a bridge.

I got it to play skyrim, so thats how it applies

In general, Skyrim + CrossFire works poorly. AMD states that a bridge is required, though you might get by without it.

pantherx12 · Dec 24, 2011, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by random

on ultra at the top of white run ... 15 fps without the patch, 15 fps with it, I've must have done something wrong, I've copied all the DLL's to the correct places but I am not sure what to do with SRC folder and such I assume that is just code that can be thrown away... anyhow on my lappy seeing little difference.

What are you launching the game with?

Mussels · Dec 24, 2011, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by erocker

In general, Skyrim + CrossFire works poorly. AMD states that a bridge is required, though you might get by without it.

its working great for me with 12.1, sure they arent maxing out the cards, but when i'm not CPU limited i'm sitting happy at 60FPS.

radrok · Dec 24, 2011, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mussels

its working great for me with 12.1, sure they arent maxing out the cards, but when i'm not CPU limited i'm sitting happy at 60FPS.

Same here, though it is limited to 2 GPUs (and probably this is a good thing) got an average of 80-90 fps outdoor, it's wonderful

Irony · Dec 24, 2011, 04:30 AM

There's no performance increase without a bridge on my board. I'll pick one up in a couple days. I hate neweggs shipping around holidays...

Deviation complete.

jonathan1107 · Dec 24, 2011, 04:42 AM

Quick technical question:

Do you guys believe Skyrim performs better with "hyper threading ON or off" ???

(meaning having HT enabled or disabled via the BIOS)...

crazyeyesreaper · Dec 24, 2011, 04:44 AM

it makes no difference

IPC aka the performance of a core and overall clock speed are all that matter,

Skyrim puts out around 4 threads give or take which tend to get lumped onto 2 cores

so 4 core 8 thread 4core 4 thread it dosent matter,

crank the clock speed its all you can do for any kind of performance improvement, HT on or Off makes no difference altho HT off might let you get a few hundred more mhz

jonathan1107 · Dec 24, 2011, 04:49 AM

ok thx... I've tried the TESVAL.dll mod, and I don't get any improvment whatsoever in any areas in the game (up to now)

I've noticed a tiny teeny little +1 FPS in whiterun... but then again...

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Dec 23, 2011, 05:46 PM	#3052
Andrei23 Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 237 (0.27/day) Thanks: 21 Thanked 24 Times in 16 Posts	Ok I now have the tesval.dll in my data/skse/plugins and to be honest I only felt a very mild improvement, might just be placebo, I can still see the fps dropping to as little as 21 in towns which is pretty much what I had before. So yeah...

Dec 23, 2011, 06:46 PM	#3055
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Dec 24, 2011, 12:21 AM	#3065
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Dec 24, 2011, 12:28 AM	#3066
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Dec 24, 2011, 12:33 AM	#3067
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Dec 24, 2011, 04:30 AM	#3072
Irony Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: COC WhiterunOrigin Posts: 985 (1.63/day) Thanks: 371 Thanked 243 Times in 197 Posts System Specs	There's no performance increase without a bridge on my board. I'll pick one up in a couple days. I hate neweggs shipping around holidays... Deviation complete. __________________ My Heatware When life gives you lemons, burn Life's house down.

Dec 24, 2011, 04:42 AM	#3073
jonathan1107 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 797 (0.91/day) Thanks: 102 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts System Specs	Quick technical question: Do you guys believe Skyrim performs better with "hyper threading ON or off" ??? (meaning having HT enabled or disabled via the BIOS)...

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Dec 24, 2011, 04:44 AM	#3074
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Dec 24, 2011, 04:49 AM	#3075
jonathan1107 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 797 (0.91/day) Thanks: 102 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts System Specs	ok thx... I've tried the TESVAL.dll mod, and I don't get any improvment whatsoever in any areas in the game (up to now) I've noticed a tiny teeny little +1 FPS in whiterun... but then again...

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