AMD FX-8150 Tested with Latest Windows Hotfixes, Still No Improvement

[btarunr]

German tech website TweakPC did a before-after comparison of applying Microsoft's recently-released KB2645594 + KB2646060 Windows updates, which intend to improve performance of systems running AMD FX processors, by improving the way in which the OS deals with Bulldozer cores, using a top-of-the-line FX-8150 processor. The reviewer put FX-8150 through synthetic tests such as AIDA64 (CPU benchmarks, FPU benchmarks), Cinebench 11.5, MaxxPi (multi-threaded PI calculations), WPrime, Twofish AES, 3DMark (Vantage and 11), ComputeMark; and some real-world tests such as WinRAR, Resident Evil 5, and Battleforge. Barring Resident Evil 5, where the patched FX-8150 produced 4% higher performance and WinRAR, where it produced 3% higher performance, there were no significant performance gains noticed. The review can be accessed at the source.



Source: TweakPC.de

[Damn_Smooth]

So you really can't make a turd a rose. Who would've figured?

[mtosev]

more fail for amd. scrap bulldozer and start working on a new cpu.

[LDNL]

Why wont they just put this horse down and focus more on the next best thing so they wont f it up aswell.

[Suhidu]

The patch does what it was supposed to do. It was never meant to speed up all applications a significant percent in benchmark scenarios, but it does remove a core-scheduling handicap of BD.

[Sihastru]

Well, that's because that's not what the hotfixes... hmmm... fix.

You will not see an improvement when all 8 threads are used, you will not see a great improvement when 4 threads are used (but there should be some, for cases when the modules were not loaded correctly, although most of the times they were), and you will not see an improvement when just 1 thread is used.

People read the title of the previous article, they saw that "10%", and automatically assumed that it would automagically make the CPU faster. That's not the case. There are just a few situations where the hotfixes will work.

[NC37]

lol, my 945 beats an FX in the 4T Cinebench...ha!

[RejZoR]

Resident Evil 5 ? That's like testing a Ferrari on a construction site... I'm not saying this CPU has certain problems but i don't think they could pick any worse game to set an example...

[entropy13]

Originally Posted by RejZoR

Resident Evil 5 ? That's like testing a Ferrari on a construction site...

There's a 4% improvement in the game. So if your analogy holds through, testing a Ferrari on a construction site would also entail some improvement?

[seronx]

Originally Posted by NC37

lol, my 945 beats an FX in the 4T Cinebench...ha!

Well no duh SSE2 performance dropped with Bulldozer



But don't expect it to do better in real world applications that use SSE4.1 which your CPU can't really do for feasible performance gain

It will be fixed with Vishera or by 40h-4Fh Steamroller the SSE2 performance

[RejZoR]

Originally Posted by entropy13

There's a 4% improvement in the game. So if your analogy holds through, testing a Ferrari on a construction site would also entail some improvement?

It did gain tiny bit on those few meters of brand new asphalt. In most cases the perfromance even degraded. Like it would when using Ferrari on a construction site... not exactly impressed.

[meirb111]

a song for amd :

"I'm just a soul whose intentions are good

Oh Lord please don't let me be misunderstood"

[qubit]

Oh well. Makes you wonder why Microsoft bothered, doesn't it?

[air_ii]

Originally Posted by mtosev

more fail for amd. scrap bulldozer and start working on a new cpu.

While BD may not be what everyone wanted it to be, maybe further iterations of the architecture will bring improvements. Maybe there is a potential in the architecture. Look what became of R600 -> RV770.

[mtosev]

Originally Posted by air_ii

While BD may not be what everyone wanted it to be, maybe further iterations of the architecture will bring improvements. Maybe there is a potential in the architecture. Look what became of R600 -> RV770.

by the time they get it right intel will still be ahead of amd. at least AMD err... ATI knows how to make graphic cards

[qubit]

Originally Posted by air_ii

While BD may not be what everyone wanted it to be, maybe further iterations of the architecture will bring improvements. Maybe there is a potential in the architecture. Look what became of R600 -> RV770.

That wasn't a framerate performance improvement (not much). It simply made the chip smaller and use less power.

[laszlo]

Originally Posted by mtosev

more fail for amd. scrap bulldozer and start working on a new cpu.

why fail? there are improvements and they are free;maybe we'll see a better patch which more improvements

[Dent1]

What people have to remember is, they only tested a few applications and games. This review is a very small sample and does not reflect the patch as a whole. If people look back at the other Bulldozer "patch" thread you would see that members in this very forum are reporting upto 7% performance increase. So it's really application dependant, and no review can cater for every application.


Below are quotes from another thread, trusted people from this community whom are saying the patch DID improve things.

Originally Posted by omagic

Well i only had time to check Crysis CPU Benchmark
Before 47 fps
After 56 fps

So quite nice boost. Ill try some more games after the work

FX-8120 8GB RAM HD6870
1680x1050 all maxed

Originally Posted by Tweety

Windows CPU score went from 7.4 to 7.5... for free

Originally Posted by screamer980

Here's my result. Before Patch 7.15. After 7.23

Originally Posted by pantherx12

Got the same 7.6% increase in cinebench single core as the leaked patch, this time with no hit to multicore performance : ]

Originally Posted by n0tiert

My Futuremark 3DMark11 test on FX-8150 / 6990

as you can see , it slightly raised the PhysX score a bit and the Total score is arround 50 points higher

Link: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...12#post2514812

[moonlord]

"there were no significant performance gains noticed" Well.. i know that , those hotfixes are a waste of time. Bad investment

[Dent1]

Originally Posted by moonlord

"there were no significant performance gains noticed" Well.. i know that , those hotfixes are a waste of time. Bad investment

Read my post above.

[moonlord]

Originally Posted by Dent1

Read my post above.

My WEI is still 7.7, maybe this patch improves other configurations, but for my software and games makes no difference.

[Zubasa]

Originally Posted by moonlord

My WEI is still 7.7, maybe this patch improves other configurations, but for my software and games makes no difference.

LOL like WEI matters

[mtosev]

Originally Posted by laszlo

why fail? there are improvements and they are free;maybe we'll see a better patch which more improvements

fail because an i7 2600/K costs less and is still faster

[pantherx12]

I got a single core and dual core performance boost.

Nothing at 10% thus far but still a wee boost for free aint bad : ]

I wouldn't say it was no improvement due to that website only testing multi-core stuff.

The patch was designed to fix threads jumping from one core to another which should fix up turbocore and the second patch designed to stop processors going into sleep mode whilst a thread was active on them. ( Caused stuttering like effect in games)

That it comes with a lil boost as well is nothing but a good thing.

[Horrux]

Originally Posted by mtosev

fail because an i7 2600/K costs less and is still faster

Not in SSE 4.1.

I have no idea what that is, except any code heavy with these kinds of functions in it will fly on the BD compared to a 2600k. Maybe in the future there will be more such code?