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Old Jan 18, 2012, 10:05 AM   #1
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Genius DX-ECO - World's First Battery Free Wireless Mouse, Now Available

Genius, a leading maker of computer peripherals, announces the world's first battery-free wireless mouse that is recharged within minutes - DX-ECO BlueEye Mouse.

Ready for a full day's use after only a three-minute charge, the Genius DX-ECO uses a built-in gold capacitor with a long life of 100,000 recharges instead of outdated, environmentally unfriendly disposable batteries. Consumers no longer need to waste time and money whether on a PC or Mac when using DX-ECO. It’s ideal for government and corporations to provide a wireless mouse option that is not only cost-cutting but also hassle-free from controlling and resupplying batteries.



The DX-ECO BlueEye sensor technology allows for smooth, uninterrupted pointing and clicking on virtually any surface including dusted glass, marble, or thick carpet. Working wirelessly from a distance of up to 15 meters due to the 2.4GHz USB pico receiver, this innovative battery-free mouse can be used anywhere and everywhere. Even when on-the-go the tiny USB pico receiver can be stored inside the DX-ECO for safe keeping.

Featuring 4-way scrolling, adjustable dpi (800/1600 dpi), as well as next/previous page hot keys for more efficient web-surfing, the DX-ECO battery free blue-eye mouse also includes plug and play design and comfortable ergonomic construction.

Package Contents:
  • DX-ECO wireless mouse
  • USB pico receiver
  • CD driver
  • Micro USB rechargeable cable
  • Multi-language user's manual
Highlights and Price:
  • Battery free wireless mouse
  • Fully recharged within three minutes while using
  • Works on virtually every surface including dusted glass and marble
  • Fully Plug and Play
  • Comfortable ergonomic design
  • Adjustable dpi – 800/1600 dpi
  • Travel friendly with storable 2.4GHz USB Pico receiver
  • MSRP: US$39.99
For more information, visit the product page.
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Old Jan 18, 2012, 10:16 AM   #2
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Nice.

It doesn't say how long it takes to charge, which is strange.
Charge time should be very short with gold-cap... They should be boasting about it... curious..

EDIT: OK... It does say that
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Old Jan 18, 2012, 10:20 AM   #3
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you don't even need to, it's the first sentence of the second/main paragraph

msrp is fair, this is good for portable use.
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Old Jan 18, 2012, 10:25 AM   #4
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Very Clever! Wonder why this took so long to come up with.
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Nice.

It doesn't say how long it takes to charge, which is strange.
Charge time should be very short with gold-cap... They should be boasting about it... curious..

EDIT: OK... It does say that
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Yeah man......Ready for a full day's use after only a three-minute charge

But soon we can see mobiles with same tech
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Old Jan 18, 2012, 11:31 AM   #6
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but how does it actually recharge, and how long does it last? if you need to plug a cable in every day to charge it, thats worthless for most people as they'd break the connector/cable too often and just stick with corded.

i get about 2 and a half days on my G700 with a single rechargeable AA battery, and i find it annoying enough to connect and deal with the cable. daily would drive office workers insane.
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@Mussels I suggest you get some bigger mAh AA battery - something like 2800-3000 mAh. When I was using wireless mouse i got few months from two AA batteries. And they were 2400 mAh.
About that mouse - that would be sweet if it comes with docking station, but the cable thing is ruining the capacitor idea...
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but how does it actually recharge, and how long does it last? if you need to plug a cable in every day to charge it, thats worthless for most people as they'd break the connector/cable too often and just stick with corded.

i get about 2 and a half days on my G700 with a single rechargeable AA battery, and i find it annoying enough to connect and deal with the cable. daily would drive office workers insane.

I would think most workers would plug it in before going home,Most company's i see leave the computers in sleep mode.
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but how does it actually recharge, and how long does it last? if you need to plug a cable in every day to charge it, thats worthless for most people as they'd break the connector/cable too often and just stick with corded.

i get about 2 and a half days on my G700 with a single rechargeable AA battery, and i find it annoying enough to connect and deal with the cable. daily would drive office workers insane.
It says a 3 minute charge for a whole day of usage. Though i really couldn't find anywhere how does it actually charge the gold capacitor...
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@Mussels I suggest you get some bigger mAh AA battery - something like 2800-3000 mAh. When I was using wireless mouse i got few months from two AA batteries. And they were 2400 mAh.
About that mouse - that would be sweet if it comes with docking station, but the cable thing is ruining the capacitor idea...
i have the G700 too and the fact that mussel's gets 2 and a half days is bloody good. i use the highest spec energizer lithium rechargeble batteries and they only last a day, but i do use it 16 hours a day without much rest. its just a power hungry mouse, great mouse by the way
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I have a sidewinder X8 (okay laugh at me, I just prefer the feel of them), anyway it charges using a magnetic cable which is then connected to a dongle so it can be used wirelessly or with the wire attached. The magnetic cable is useful I found as I don't have to fumble trying to insert it in the mouse and also being magnetic, its less likely to break as less handling is required. Hopefully this mouse has something similar.
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@treehouse I didn't use this mouse. Mine was Logitech with keyboard combo - wireless desktop 110 if I remember correctly. I rarely used it like 16 hours a day and the batteries were GP. Now I got 4 3000mAh AA batteries from ebay for about 2.5$ but never got the chance to test them. I guess they cannot be compared to Energizers, but who knows Also I need to mention that rechargable batteries wear over usage, your kind of usage would make them wear faster. And it is the charge/discharge cycles - every day mean that after few months they already wouldn't charge fully - maybe 80%. I don't want to speculate but perhaps you could check some other batteries - borrow from a friend so don't spend money pointlessly.
And on topic I would say that maybe with some wireless charging of that capacitor it would be good, but then the price will me another one. I still think that docking would be the better decision. Just leave the mouse on it so it would be charged next day. I think more manufacturers will use this tech once it is proved to be reliable. So I am waiting for the gold cap mouse with docking station. And please explain the difference between nano and piko receivers ?
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3 minutes with a dock would be fine, i'm sure people can manage that long without their mouse even in a busy work environment.

its just a cable connection that seems so odd in that situation - for a fast charging device, why use a clumsy charging method?
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It says a 3 minute charge for a whole day of usage. Though i really couldn't find anywhere how does it actually charge the gold capacitor...
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That's a strange decision if you ask me. These days pretty much everything is using inductive transmission of power (contact free). Electric shavers (a bit higher end ones) from Philips and Braun have this, my electric toothbrush from Braun has it (and it's the cheapest one for sub 20 EUR). Philips LED candles used this tech 6 years ago when we were selling them. Hell, i've seen that Mitsubishi is trying to push similar tech to recharge their electric car. Why not make a simpe pad where you place the mouse and it recharges without any physical contacts? That would probably add extra 5-10 EUR to the price but it would just be priceless.
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These days pretty much everything is using inductive transmission of power (contact free).
That's bad for your health and not very ECO
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@joyman i tried the duracell non lithium batteries and they lasted half a day with my usage. so my current energizer battery is very very good as i use the same battery in a torch and its lasts a very long time, its just the mouse which is very power hungry.

i had another logitech mouse (non gaming) and the battery in that lasted 5 months with 16 hours a day usage.

note for G700 prospectors, be aware of the constant battery charging. although its worth it due to it being a fantastic mouse.
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That's bad for your health and not very ECO
Eh, if you're bothered so much about health it's better for you to sell your PC and your WiFi router first. And if you live in a block then you have a problem of being surrounded by neighbors routers... Your brainz will get fried for sure...

As for the eco efficiency of inductive transmission, it has 90% efficiency and with such little charge necessary for the mouse, the power loss is negligible...
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@Mussels I suggest you get some bigger mAh AA battery - something like 2800-3000 mAh. When I was using wireless mouse i got few months from two AA batteries. And they were 2400 mAh.
About that mouse - that would be sweet if it comes with docking station, but the cable thing is ruining the capacitor idea...
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i have the G700 too and the fact that mussel's gets 2 and a half days is bloody good. i use the highest spec energizer lithium rechargeble batteries and they only last a day, but i do use it 16 hours a day without much rest. its just a power hungry mouse, great mouse by the way
Something that we have to remember when it comes to mice is that the higher performance they are the more power they suck down. The G700 comes with a pretty damn good battery already, an Eneloope 2000, and I get about 2 days out of it, using it about 8 hours a day. Though the power mode setting does affect that. I leave it on normal, but if you push it to max gaming I find it only lasts about a day because the mouse is more active when it is "asleep" when set to max gaming. Now the G700, and most high performance mice, suck down a lot of juice. The higher quality sensor along with the higher polling rate, as well as they stronger radio for a better signal to the receiver all require a crap load of power(by mouse standards).

Most generic mice, like the DX-ECO, that only have a 800/1600 DPI sensor and likely don't have nearly as great of range will not require nearly as much power. I've got a generic wireless mouse on my techstation and the batteries last 6+ months and it uses 2 AAA batteries. So it makes sense for a mouse like the DX-ECO to use a cap instead of a battery. Though I hardly thing it will last all day if you really use it 8+ hours.
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@treehouse Well then this mouse may have welding unit hidden inside... Geez what is this communication with the receiver to need so much power ? On second tought I charge my phone almost every day so I see it is something that the user just need to know and get used to.
On the wireless charging well... Tesla knew how to do it many years ago, guess military secrets are getting out but soo damn late... I admire Tesla - one not so well known and underappreciated scientist. Wireless energy transmission should be already everywhere now, not just some chargers for some little house appliance units.
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Well, it's still a matter of distance at which such feature operates. It will be more interesting when power will be transmitted at same distance as wifi networks. That would be kick ass. Wireless appliances through entire house. Wireless coffee blender, fully wireless TV, mobile phone that charges by itself when in range etc etc. Though in that case they'd have to somehow encrypt the access, otherwise others could steal the power...
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Forget the cord, and make an induction charger for it.. Let it look like a mouse mat.
What really is strange, is that Razer did not come up with this idéa..
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I was thinking of a wireless mice that is getting power to operate through the mat but having hand on such surface for longer periods (direct contact), i'm not sure if it's a good thing to do.
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They should just sell a mousepad with this that's a charging pad. Problem solved.
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