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Old Jan 19, 2012, 04:59 PM   #51
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Let me see here Hollywood has the right to free speech yet they want to take this right away from you and me . Just how will they do this ? Lets say you are taking a video and in the back ground your T.V. is on playing a movie that just happens to be caught on camera well with the law passing YOU WILL BE IN VIOLATION and punished under said LAW ! The site will be as well taken down fined or any other such punishment they Deem necessary ! No this will also go for any thing that is heard as well . Now kids taking videos singing along with there favorite song will also be in violation of the law as it is written . So free expression is NOW OUT THE WINDOW subjugated to the law of Hollywood ! Starting to get it NOW ? Or is this just too over your head ? So now impersonations of your favorite songs and even actors is now subject to approval from the Government and Hollywood !
Who cares. SOPA being passed or not its over. Goverment just killed the 4th and 6th amendment with the NDAA and you are still worried about SOPA? WHO CARES.

I say let SOPA pass and any other law they want. Its over. "They" won. Welcome to the future.......also known as the past.
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Who cares. SOPA being passed or not its over. Goverment just killed the 4th and 6th amendment with the NDAA and you are still worried about SOPA? WHO CARES.
No I agree . But see NOW it the time to act NOT when they keep passing laws like this . Time to send Obama a message to Repeal this law or tell your next president this ! Time to act is NOW ! Just because NDAA has been past doesn't mean you can not voice up and out against it !
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Let me see here Hollywood has the right to free speech yet they want to take this right away from you and me . Just how will they do this ? Lets say you are taking a video and in the back ground your T.V. is on playing a movie that just happens to be caught on camera well with the law passing YOU WILL BE IN VIOLATION and punished under said LAW ! The site will be as well taken down fined or any other such punishment they Deem necessary ! No this will also go for any thing that is heard as well . Now kids taking videos singing along with there favorite song will also be in violation of the law as it is written . So free expression is NOW OUT THE WINDOW subjugated to the law of Hollywood ! Starting to get it NOW ? Or is this just too over your head ? So now impersonations of your favorite songs and even actors is now subject to approval from the Government and Hollywood !
Sir (or Madam, as the case may be), I had initially believed we might be able to have a rational, adult conversation regarding this matter.

However, as you have decided to resort to insults and derogatory rhetoric, I will withdraw.

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No I agree . But see NOW it the time to act NOT when they keep passing laws like this . Time to send Obama a message to Repeal this law or tell your next president this ! Time to act is NOW ! Just because NDAA has been past doesn't mean you can not voice up and out against it !
Apparently you don't know how this works do you. Its done. I for one am enjoying the show.
QQing on web forums or lil black out protests make no difference. SOPA or no SOPA. Its done.
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WHAT ? just how was I insulting or being derogatory ? Man you need some help .
Yes, of course you are right, I obviously misinterpreted the compliment you were giving me?

That must also be "too over my head".

It is quite possible someone needs help, although I do not believe it is me.

Please feel free to reply, however, I shall not respond.
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Yes, of course you are right, I obviously misinterpreted the compliment you were giving me?

That must also be "too over my head".

It is quite possible someone needs help, although I do not believe it is me.

Please feel free to reply, however, I shall not respond.
I meant no disrespect , I am sorry but this is what I have been saying all along and I still do not know if you get what I mean is all . Sorry for hurting your feelings I will delete that part of the post . I fixed it and hope you forgive me .
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Between FOIA, NDAA, and SOPA, it's all over. They can do what they want to who they want for whatever reason they want for as long as they want. Where's freedom now?

“If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.” -George Washington
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Between FOIA, NDAA, and SOPA, it's all over. They can do what they want to who they want for whatever reason they want for as long as they want. Where's freedom now?

“If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.” -George Washington
But as you may have seen here as long as some find that it is not an infringement on there rights ( Most are not well read on the Constitution at all ) Or think it doesn't matter to me or the I don't care people this will continue . No one has drawn the line and told there hired state reps and legislators NO ! They let the lobbyists take control and this is just what you get .
No one cares so well we Americans had a good run . America is NOT a free nation any more we have given up our rights a long time ago . Oh well when the shit hits the fan you can take my guns from my COLD DEAD HANDS ! The last stand I will be taking is when they want to come into my home they will not come in with out a fight !
Good day good luck and GOD speed . Welcome to the NEW WORLD ORDER FOLKS !
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But as you may have seen here as long as some find that it is not an infringement on there rights ( Most are not well read on the Constitution at all ) Or think it doesn't matter to me or the I don't care people this will continue . No one has drawn the line and told there hired state reps and legislators NO ! They let the lobbyists take control and this is just what you get .
No one cares so well we Americans had a good run . America is NOT a free nation any more we have given up our rights a long time ago . Oh well when the shit hits the fan you can take my guns from my COLD DEAD HANDS ! The last stand I will be taking is when they want to come into my home they will not come in with out a fight !
Good day good luck and GOD speed . Welcome to the NEW WORLD ORDER FOLKS !
Line in the sand? lol You're kidding right? Big talk from the internet.




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Line in the sand? lol You're kidding right? Big talk from the internet.

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With that said there is just nothing else that can be said .

Just like every one else we have no voice and soon no right to even have a voice . Great job People .

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Just like every one else we have no voice and soon no right to even have a voice . Great job People .
Again. Canada.

Id go to Antarctica but there is no internets there. Lol
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Line in the sand? lol You're kidding right? Big talk from the internet.

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Oh dammit mailman, I don't care what point you're trying to make, your picture cracks me up again! Friggin' awesome.
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You know after thinking about it, the NDAA doesnt really effect anyone except for criminals that have done something illegal such as kidnapping, harboring a terrorist, drug dealers, etc. If you dont partake in this, why should it effect you and I?
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You know after thinking about it, the NDAA doesnt really effect anyone except for criminals that have done something illegal such as kidnapping, harboring a terrorist, drug dealers, etc. If you dont partake in this, why should it effect you and I?
Because the US Government doesn't need those reasons you state in order to detain you. We have certain rights and freedoms in this country and the NDAA just took those away. It disregards our Constitution and Bill of Rights, it is an illegal bill and you should be concerned because like anything else it will eventually be abused.
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You know after thinking about it, the NDAA doesnt really effect anyone except for criminals that have done something illegal such as kidnapping, harboring a terrorist, drug dealers, etc. If you dont partake in this, why should it effect you and I?
Then SOPA doesn't effect anyone but pirates. Hell lets all stick our heads in the sand! Its fun!

However I respect your comment. Very classic troll. Kudos sir.
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Because the US Government doesn't need those reasons you state in order to detain you. We have certain rights and freedoms in this country and the NDAA just took those away. It disregards our Constitution and Bill of Rights, it is an illegal bill and you should be concerned because like anything else it will eventually be abused.
Flippin' eck!

I didn't know much about this so just googled it and came across the inevitable Wikipedia article, describing the controversial bit. Yeah, that's bad, real bad. I'm sure if 9/11 hadn't happened we wouldn't have this imposed on us now. I'll bet countries like the UK, France, Australia etc bring in something like this.

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Section 1021 and 1022 have been called a violation of constitutional principles and of the Bill of Rights.[29] Internationally, the UK-based newspaper The Guardian has described the legislation as allowing indefinite detention "without trial [of] American terrorism suspects arrested on US soil who could then be shipped to Guantánamo Bay;"[30] Al Jazeera has written that the Act "gives the US military the option to detain US citizens suspected of participating or aiding in terrorist activities without a trial, indefinitely."[31] The official Russian international radio broadcasting service Voice of Russia has been highly critical of the legislation, writing that under its authority "the US military will have the power to detain Americans suspected of involvement in terrorism without charge or trial and imprison them for an indefinite period of time;" it has furthermore written that "the most radical analysts are comparing the new law to the edicts of the 'Third Reich' or 'Muslim tyrannies.'"[32] The Act has been opposed by the ACLU and Human Rights Watch, and received criticism from The New York Times,[33] and other news organizations.[34][35]
mailman: I can see why you're saying for us to quit worrying over sopa when there's this. However, I think bad bills should be stopped wherever possible, even if others get through.
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Flippin' eck!

I didn't know much about this so just googled it and came across the inevitable Wikipedia article, describing the controversial bit. Yeah, that's bad, real bad. I'm sure if 9/11 hadn't happened we wouldn't have this imposed on us now. I'll bet countries like the UK, France, Australia etc bring in something like this.



mailman: I can see why you're saying for us to quit worrying over sopa when there's this. However, I think bad bills should be stopped wherever possible, even if others get through.
SOPA is child's play compared to the NDAA. And Mr. Hope and Change signed right off on it. Just like the tax extension and the Patriot Act. Please SOPA is a joke. People worry about the dumbest shit sometimes.

I mean when you guys whine about SOPA all I can think about is this.....



WHO CARES. We have no right to fair trial anymore and you think I care about being busted for downloading the latest Billy Squier video?
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And so it begins !
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See Qubit? Do you see now that they don't even need SOPA to take down things?

NOW DO YOU SEE.
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However I respect your comment. Very classic troll. Kudos sir.
Nothing troll about what I said. Gotta love the internet and how people assume certain comments are made to troll because of the way a person views a certain situation. Way to fail. Your momma taught you what it means to "assume" correct?
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Nothing troll about what I said. Gotta love the internet and how people assume certain comments are made to troll because of the way a person views a certain situation. Way to fail. Your momma taught you what it means to "assume" correct?
Your comment was so misinformed I mistook it for a troll. My mistake humble scholar. Carry on shining light!

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