Deathadder Upgrade

JrRacinFan · Jan 25, 2012, 03:07 PM

Currently have a Deathadder 1800dpi and have been looking around; What would be a cheap alternative but yet an upgrade?

_JP_ · Jan 25, 2012, 03:31 PM

A4-Tech X7 Oscar. A cheaper build quality (hence cheaper price), but it has programmable buttons and some models can reach 3600dpi. Mine does.

JrRacinFan · Jan 25, 2012, 03:33 PM

Is this it?
http://www.directron.com/xl750f.html?gsear=1

_JP_ · Jan 25, 2012, 03:35 PM

Yes it is.
I have the XL-750BK, which might be the one you will end up getting.

Quote:

Note: This is the newest model of this mouse. Mfr #: XL-750BK

JrRacinFan · Jan 25, 2012, 03:36 PM

Very nice; I like it. Know of any others?

brandonwh64 · Jan 25, 2012, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Is this it?
http://www.directron.com/xl750f.html?gsear=1

Quote:

Originally Posted by _JP_

Yes it is.
I have the XL-750BK, which might be the one you will end up getting.

Would this be an upgrade to a MX518? I can get this or order a BNIB MX518 for double. decisions!

_JP_ · Jan 25, 2012, 03:42 PM

Well, on the same level, the market here is saturated with either wireless models or regular ones of premium brands. The X7s are the best I can recommend you for that price point.

phanbuey · Jan 25, 2012, 03:44 PM

Lol that deathadder seems familiar

Frederik S · Jan 25, 2012, 03:45 PM

That A4-tech mouse is a major downgrade. The sensor in the DeathAdder is still one of the best available. If you like the ergonomics then stick with it, there are only marginal gains from getting a new one. That said both CM Storm and Zowie are coming out with mice based on the same sensor (as the new DeatherAdder, not the original) just perfected in terms of no prediction and lower lift-off distance.

_JP_ · Jan 25, 2012, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Would this be an upgrade to a MX518?

The answer would be no. The X7s have lower quality, compared to a MX518.

uuuaaaaaa · Jan 25, 2012, 03:58 PM

i know people who would pay big monies for one of the old DA. Those have one of the best sensors of all time, even the new razer mice have sensors worse than that... people just go crazy about high dpi...

JrRacinFan · Jan 25, 2012, 03:59 PM

Alright guess I will stick with it for some time coming. Thanks fellahs.

LOL @ phanbuey

brandonwh64 · Jan 25, 2012, 04:02 PM

Hmmm then I guess I will stick with the G500 as my next mouse

_JP_ · Jan 25, 2012, 04:42 PM

I guess I wasn't getting the "upgrade" part in my mind. Sorry about that Jr.

JrRacinFan · Jan 25, 2012, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _JP_

I guess I wasn't getting the "upgrade" part in my mind. Sorry about that Jr.

Nah man, we're cool. May still pick it up cause I need a regular mouse for the HTPC rather than a gyro remote.

phanbuey · Jan 25, 2012, 04:57 PM

you can get the firmware that kills the prediction for it

that will help.

JrRacinFan · Jan 25, 2012, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phanbuey

you can get the firmware that kills the prediction for it

that will help.

There's a firmware update? Where is it at?

brandonwh64 · Jan 25, 2012, 05:27 PM

Just googled some reviews on the A4-Tech X7 and it seems to be a solid mouse for 19$ (25$ with shipping). They compared it to higher $ mice with similar specs and it hung with them and those mice were over the specs of my MX518.

Anybody else have any thoughts?

phanbuey · Jan 25, 2012, 05:28 PM

Their website

- http://www.razerzone.com/

you're gonna have to root around for it - its in the downloads section somewhere.

EDIT:

http://www.razersupport.com/index.ph...8&nav=0,76,168

Here it is. You want the NDC one to disable prediction.

brandonwh64 · Jan 25, 2012, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Is this it?
http://www.directron.com/xl750f.html?gsear=1

Ok after sitting here reading reviews on this mouse for the past 2 hours, I bit the bullet and ordered it. Got it for 25.11$ shipped with 1% off coupon (not much but every little bit helps). It seems the hardware is very good and competitive with higher end company's but the plastic is a little rough and cheap. For 25$ it should be ok for about a year I hope. It gets way more DPI and freq than my MX518.

JrRacinFan · Jan 25, 2012, 07:04 PM

Let me know what happens because at this point your word is golden.

NinkobEi · Jan 25, 2012, 07:06 PM

I'd just stick with the Deathadder unless its falling apart. "Upgrading" a mice probably wont see much improvement over what you have already, unless you just have loads of money to burn - but then why ask for cheap alternative?

_JP_ · Jan 25, 2012, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

It gets way more DPI and freq than my MX518.

If it's anything like mine, it should be 3600dpi and 1000MHz.
I'm not picky with mouses (mice?). I bought the X7 because I had a strict budget and it was the only gaming mouse was cheap enough. After one year (and a half, I think), no complaints whatsoever. Works like day 1. The programming part is cool, works with most games, although I only program the two buttons on the left. I don't even use a mat for it.

brandonwh64 · Jan 25, 2012, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Let me know what happens because at this point your word is golden.

I sure will, I know from experience that reviews are not the true word of how a product will work. Sometimes it takes hands on experience and I will probably get that next monday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by _JP_

If it's anything like mine, it should be 3600dpi and 1000MHz.
I'm not picky with mouses (mice?). I bought the X7 because I had a strict budget and it was the only gaming mouse was cheap enough. After one year (and a half, I think), no complaints whatsoever. Works like day 1. The programming part is cool, works with most games, although I only program the two buttons on the left. I don't even use a mat for it.

One thing that attracted me to this mouse is the program ability. I HATE logitech's software they use with their mouses. I never could get it to work right with my MX518 so I just plugged it in without the software and never looked back.

JrRacinFan · Jan 25, 2012, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Nah man, we're cool. May still pick it up cause I need a regular mouse for the HTPC rather than a gyro remote.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinkobEi

I'd just stick with the Deathadder unless its falling apart. "Upgrading" a mice probably wont see much improvement over what you have already, unless you just have loads of money to burn - but then why ask for cheap alternative?

Figured if I can get one a little nicer for cheap I'll just use it on my gaming system.

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Jan 25, 2012, 03:31 PM	#2
_JP_ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Portugal Posts: 2,112 (1.87/day) Thanks: 1,952 Thanked 644 Times in 466 Posts System Specs	A4-Tech X7 Oscar. A cheaper build quality (hence cheaper price), but it has programmable buttons and some models can reach 3600dpi. Mine does.

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Jan 25, 2012, 03:42 PM	#7
_JP_ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Portugal Posts: 2,112 (1.87/day) Thanks: 1,952 Thanked 644 Times in 466 Posts System Specs	Well, on the same level, the market here is saturated with either wireless models or regular ones of premium brands. The X7s are the best I can recommend you for that price point.

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JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.15/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	Alright guess I will stick with it for some time coming. Thanks fellahs. LOL @ phanbuey __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

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_JP_ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Portugal Posts: 2,112 (1.87/day) Thanks: 1,952 Thanked 644 Times in 466 Posts System Specs	I guess I wasn't getting the "upgrade" part in my mind. Sorry about that Jr.

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phanbuey Eligible for custom title Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 5,010 (2.49/day) Thanks: 1,484 Thanked 959 Times in 812 Posts System Specs	you can get the firmware that kills the prediction for it that will help.

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brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chatsworth, GA Posts: 13,560 (10.04/day) Thanks: 2,138 Thanked 5,338 Times in 3,695 Posts System Specs	Just googled some reviews on the A4-Tech X7 and it seems to be a solid mouse for 19$ (25$ with shipping). They compared it to higher $ mice with similar specs and it hung with them and those mice were over the specs of my MX518. Anybody else have any thoughts? __________________ Cruncher's: All GPU's GPU's: 7970 3GB Unlocked = 8 Threads 5770 1GB OCed = 2 Threads

Jan 25, 2012, 05:28 PM	#19
phanbuey Eligible for custom title Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 5,010 (2.49/day) Thanks: 1,484 Thanked 959 Times in 812 Posts System Specs	Their website - http://www.razerzone.com/ you're gonna have to root around for it - its in the downloads section somewhere. EDIT: http://www.razersupport.com/index.ph...8&nav=0,76,168 Here it is. You want the NDC one to disable prediction. Last edited by phanbuey; Jan 25, 2012 at 05:36 PM.

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