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Old Jan 26, 2012, 06:34 PM   #26
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Im now waiting for Nvidia to release there GK104. Rumors have it itll be priced at 299 and have about 768 Cuda Cores. Which is obviously more then the 580 so itll be pretty fast. And its suppose to replace the GTX560ti. Ill be waiting
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Seeing that I don't really follow the high end GPU race I had no expectations. So yes.

It will be interesting to see how the 78xx, 77xx and 76xx cards perform though.
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lol or that but i want that extra GB xD imagine 7950's in crossfire on a 24Inch + monitor yum!
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Im now waiting for Nvidia to release there GK104. Rumors have it itll be priced at 299 and have about 768 Cuda Cores. Which is obviously more then the 580 so itll be pretty fast. And its suppose to replace the GTX560ti. Ill be waiting
You and alot of people... If that price is true, then holy crap.

Sometimes I get the feeling these companies are colluding.
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Im now waiting for Nvidia to release there GK104. Rumors have it itll be priced at 299 and have about 768 Cuda Cores. Which is obviously more then the 580 so itll be pretty fast. And its suppose to replace the GTX560ti. Ill be waiting
Then you should wait longer for whatever is coming out next. Keep waiting forever and ever! Is your 470 holding you back?

I think Nvidia is putting all their money on this "mid range" 7970 killer. They are basically launching their highest end card that they can sucessfully build at the moment and labeling it as a mid-range. Rather cunning move but it could really end up hurting them in the end.
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I didn't vote due to mixed feelings.

I love my 7970, it's been the best card I've ever owned so far. It blazes through anything I throw at it and then some. It was expensive though, and with the state of games and consoles holding back technology, do we really need cards like this? Well.. sometimes. I like upping the eye candy, using things like supersample AA and such. I'm leaning more towards "yes" I suppose. It definitely has met and exceeded my expectations (overclocking is awesome with this thing), but again the only real negative thing is the price.
I hear you. But if the 7970 has the longevity that my 5870's had then it will pay itself off easily.

Rather then look at the steep price tag, look at the investment. How long do you sit in front of your computer? Add all those hours up and divide by cost of your system. I have 170 hours in BF3 and 130 hours in Skyrim. 300 hours / $550 = .54 an hour for the best graphics you can get. Knowing I will own this card for a couple years means it will cost me cents per use. Pretty cheap really for the experience when you look long term.
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I hear you. But if the 7970 has the longevity that my 5870's had then it will pay itself off easily.

Rather then look at the steep price tag, look at the investment. How long do you sit in front of your computer? Add all those hours up and divide by cost of your system. I have 170 hours in BF3 and 130 hours in Skyrim. 300 hours / $550 = .54 an hour for the best graphics you can get. Knowing I will own this card for a couple years means it will cost me cents per use. Pretty cheap really for the experience when you look long term.
That is a really cool way of looking at it.
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I hear you. But if the 7970 has the longevity that my 5870's had then it will pay itself off easily.

Rather then look at the steep price tag, look at the investment. How long do you sit in front of your computer? Add all those hours up and divide by cost of your system. I have 170 hours in BF3 and 130 hours in Skyrim. 300 hours / $550 = .54 an hour for the best graphics you can get. Knowing I will own this card for a couple years means it will cost me cents per use. Pretty cheap really for the experience when you look long term.
Very well said.

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I didn't vote due to mixed feelings.

I love my 7970, it's been the best card I've ever owned so far. It blazes through anything I throw at it and then some. It was expensive though, and with the state of games and consoles holding back technology, do we really need cards like this? Well.. sometimes. I like upping the eye candy, using things like supersample AA and such. I'm leaning more towards "yes" I suppose. It definitely has met and exceeded my expectations (overclocking is awesome with this thing), but again the only real negative thing is the price.
That pretty much sums it up. Rumor is that the new Xbox will pack a Radeon 6670 GPU. Crysis 3 will have console tesselation enabled.
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I think that is how I will present this to my GF, before she tries to cut my balls off for spending $600 on a card and then complaining about money.
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I hear you. But if the 7970 has the longevity that my 5870's had then it will pay itself off easily.

Rather then look at the steep price tag, look at the investment. How long do you sit in front of your computer? Add all those hours up and divide by cost of your system. I have 170 hours in BF3 and 130 hours in Skyrim. 300 hours / $550 = .54 an hour for the best graphics you can get. Knowing I will own this card for a couple years means it will cost me cents per use. Pretty cheap really for the experience when you look long term.
i hear ya...... i've had my 5870 for two years and still going strong.

gonna run tripple eyefinity so i'm gonna need all the vram i can get.

2 7950's in xfire with the 7970 bios should do the trick.
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I think that is how I will present this to my GF, before she tries to cut my balls off for spending $600 on a card and then complaining about money.


It's the only way I can justify to myself the expense and not have buyers remorse. The more I use it the cheaper it gets.
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i feel the 7970 has met my expectations price dosent seem that bad either, I am however waiting on aftermarket cooled cards to land,

i see it as worthwhile upgrade at stock it may seem a bit underwhelming but push it to 1000 core and performance tends to be close enough to 6950 crossfire to make it a viable switch,

I had 6950 xfire, and while performance was great games like Skyrim, and Shogun 2 could see performance gains today but there gone tomorrow it was a headache, 7970 offers same performance when clocked lower TDP and at the same price,

I had 2x 6950 Twin Frozr III PE / OC cards at $300 a pop means my 6950s in order to get quiet cards that stay cool cost me MORE then a 7970 will so in my situation its a free sidegrade with no real downside,

no xfire issues
more vram for games like shogun 2 and skyrim where mods eat vram for breakfast (shogun 2 can use upwards of 3gb of Vram)
less power means less heat
its something new for me to play with.

As an enthusiast the last point is important, once I am bored with my hardware I feel less inclined to game and less likely to use my PC. So having something new to shake things up is always nice.

and so what if Nvidia turns out faster? ill just sell the 7970 and buy a 680 or 780 or w.e the hell they call it when the time comes
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I hear you. But if the 7970 has the longevity that my 5870's had then it will pay itself off easily.

Rather then look at the steep price tag, look at the investment. How long do you sit in front of your computer? Add all those hours up and divide by cost of your system. I have 170 hours in BF3 and 130 hours in Skyrim. 300 hours / $550 = .54 an hour for the best graphics you can get. Knowing I will own this card for a couple years means it will cost me cents per use. Pretty cheap really for the experience when you look long term.
The problem with that analogy is that my old card, a 1GB 5850 (overclocked of course) was totally maxing Skyrim (boring game anyways) with 4MSAA and added gfx ini tweaks and was playing BF3 on mostly Ultra settings (Medium shadows an no MSAA), and mainly getting between 50-60 FPS on that, but having to endure dips into the 40's on some of the more graphically intensive levels.

With my 7970, I can now enjoy BF3 on the settings that I play (Ultra with Shadows on high and an AA 'hack' / ini file tweak), without ever having to endure a dip below 60FPS. This puts a smile on my face, but I am not sure if I can honestly say that this smile is worth £430 (I got lucky and got one 'cheap'). The truth is, I feel better for having my 7970, as I am no longer plagued by the obsessive urge to be constantly scouring the web for news on the next latest and greatest retail consumer gfx technology. So in that sense, my 7970 was worth getting, but only because I suffer from some weird kind of 21st century mental disorder.......and the same thing could probably be said for the majority of members on this website.

As erocker suggested, apart from BF3, the only times where a 7970 is needed is for excessive graphical features and/or horribly optimised games......(7970 will still not max out Crysis with 4MSAA without dropping frames)
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i hear ya...... i've had my 5870 for two years and still going strong.

gonna run tripple eyefinity so i'm gonna need all the vram i can get.

2 7950's in xfire with the 7970 bios should do the trick.
I don't know if the bios and unlocks have been confirmed yet?
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i hear ya...... i've had my 5870 for two years and still going strong.

gonna run tripple eyefinity so i'm gonna need all the vram i can get.

2 7950's in xfire with the 7970 bios should do the trick.
It doesnt look like unlocking will work
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My 5850 has paid for itself and then some. If I had the cash I would be all over the 7970. But as Erocker said nothing out really MAKES me upgrade or justify the money. There is no game like Quake 3 out where I wanna build a system to play it.
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The problem with that analogy is that my old card, a 1GB 5850 (overclocked of course) was totally maxing Skyrim (boring game anyways) with 4MSAA and added gfx ini tweaks and was playing BF3 on mostly Ultra settings (Medium shadows an no MSAA), and mainly getting between 50-60 FPS on that, but having to endure dips into the 40's on some of the more graphically intensive levels.

With my 7970, I can now enjoy BF3 on the settings that I play (Ultra with Shadows on high and an AA 'hack' / ini file tweak), without ever having to endure a dip below 60FPS. This puts a smile on my face, but I am not sure if I can honestly say that this smile is worth £430 (I got lucky and got one 'cheap'). The truth is, I feel better for having my 7970, as I am no longer plagued by the obsessive urge to be constantly scouring the web for news on the next latest and greatest retail consumer gfx technology. So in that sense, my 7970 was worth getting, but only because I suffer from some weird kind of 21st century mental disorder.......and the same thing could probably be said for the majority of members on this website.

As erocker suggested, apart from BF3, the only times where a 7970 is needed is for excessive graphical features and/or horribly optimised games......(7970 will still not max out Crysis with 4MSAA without dropping frames)
Yes but you are running a resolution of 1650x1080. You have a card that now surpasses your display resolution by a lot. Unless you haven't updated your system specs.

The 7970 is made for resolutions including and above 1920x1200. Anything under that and you may as well upgrade your monitor first before spending the cash on the card.

Although I understand why you did it, to get away from xfire. which that in itself is a good move if you are happy with it, one of the main reasons I upgraded.
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There was no vagina button, so I hit yes.

Price? Who know right now... should be in the $350 range for the 7970

Crossfire scaling is where it's at.
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Im now waiting for Nvidia to release there GK104. Rumors have it itll be priced at 299 and have about 768 Cuda Cores. Which is obviously more then the 580 so itll be pretty fast. And its suppose to replace the GTX560ti. Ill be waiting
BUT they are clocked the same as the rest of the chip unlike 580, at least that's what i remember reading in some article about kepler...
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Then you should wait longer for whatever is coming out next. Keep waiting forever and ever! Is your 470 holding you back?

I think Nvidia is putting all their money on this "mid range" 7970 killer. They are basically launching their highest end card that they can sucessfully build at the moment and labeling it as a mid-range. Rather cunning move but it could really end up hurting them in the end.
470 isnt holding back at all. I think what they are doing actually is what AMD did. called the 6870 card mid end and then the 69xx cards the high end ones. Like once the 660/680 is released then there bease of a card with the rumor 1024 cuda cores will be the 780

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BUT they are clocked the same as the rest of the chip unlike 580, at least that's what i remember reading in some article about kepler...
What do you mean clocked the same? The Cores? I mean I read this too, but im jsut wondering what the "they" is.
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Too expensive for me. Even 7950.
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