CAD machine

dathai · Jan 26, 2012, 07:57 PM

Hi,

I had posted here before and got a lot of great advice on building my first rig.

The backstory is I'm an architect looking for a system that will handle CS5 Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Acrobat Pro X (often with very large CPU workloads from big Illustrator files), AutoCad, 3dsMax (relativity small render resolutions,all still), SketchUp with the occasional bit of Premier Pro. Windows 7 is only option for OS although I have tried to keep the Hackintosh option open. A wide range of software, I know, but this is the nature of my job.

Going on the advice I've gotten here and elsewhere I'm looking at this build

Intel Core i5-2500k 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CP-368-IN

Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-054-AK

Corsair Force Series 3 120GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-021-CS

Asus GeForce GTX 550Ti 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-265-AS

Corsair Builder Series CX 600W V2 '80 Plus' Power Supply (CMPSU-600CXUKV2)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-048-CS

Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - Black
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-101-AN

Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-094-KS

Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HS-035-AR

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=AC-000-AC

I have my own monitors and HDDs lying around for storage so they are not.

The system will never be used for gaming but I do plan on overclocking the 2500k.

If anybody could offer advice if I've got overkill, leaving aspects out etc, I would really appreciate it?

May not buy it all from overclockersUK but I can do a bit more shopping around once I have a final shopping list.

DanishDevil · Jan 26, 2012, 09:12 PM

What I would recommend you do differently simply for ease of use is get an SSD smaller than 64GB and utilize Intel SRT to automatically cache your most-used data to your SSD. You'll never have to worry about running out of SSD space, and your most used files will be fastest. Overall performance will be a bit lower because you'll only have half the space on the SSD side of things, but it will be completely automated after you set it up.

Also, the CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ is a great bang/buck cooler that comes with enough of its own TIM to not need to purchase any separately. Looks like they only have the Evo, virtually the same cooler. Arctic Silver 5 is ancient per today's standards, too.

You might want to bump up from a Corsair CX to a TXv2 or HX model. Longer warranty and better reliability if you spend more than the CX series.

Overall, looks like a very solid build for CAD/content creation!

Jetster · Jan 26, 2012, 09:26 PM

Agree. Switch to the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO or + if you can find one. (The EVO copper tubing is tighter so better cooling) But both are way better then the AC 7. A TX650 Corsair or HX if you want modular (there are a lot of wires with the TX)

Wrigleyvillain · Jan 26, 2012, 09:58 PM

Generally, CS5 can benefit from HT as will some of your other production apps and plug-ins surely so you may want to go with a 2600K. Has 2MB more cache too.

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/806048

happy · Jan 26, 2012, 10:03 PM

I just built a CAD machine, but I think I paid almost half the price you would be paying. I think you are building a gaming pc rather than a CAD pc.

Wrigleyvillain · Jan 26, 2012, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happy

I just built a CAD machine, but I think I paid almost half the price you would be paying. I think you are building a gaming pc rather than a CAD pc.

Well share the specs.

DanishDevil · Jan 26, 2012, 10:18 PM

CAD is similar to a gaming PC, except for a CAD machine, you just want a mid-range nvidia GPU, and more RAM rather than faster RAM. Otherwise, they're fairly similar.

A bump to a 2600K wouldn't be a terrible idea either, but not a priority in my eyes, as it's easily upgradeable later.

Jetster · Jan 26, 2012, 10:23 PM

You should go with a Cad design video card. Gaming cards are for gaming there faster. Cad design cards are more accurate but slower

happy · Jan 26, 2012, 10:32 PM

Mobo: Gigabyte P55 USB3
GPU: Sapphire 5670
Memory: Kingston 4GB x2 1600mhz
CPU: i5 750 (Surely slower than the 2500 but will definitely do the job for CAD)
PSU: Corsair CX430w
HDD: 640GB Caviar Blue

DanishDevil · Jan 26, 2012, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetster

You should go with a Cad design video card. Gaming cards are for gaming there faster. Cad design cards are more accurate but slower

Workstation cards are incredibly expensive, and since some Adobe programs are now CUDA accelerated, he'll get more bang/buck by going with a midrange nvidia GPU. A mid-low end would probably be fine, too.

Jetster · Jan 26, 2012, 10:41 PM

Understand

@ Happy. Go to the top of the page and click "User CP" on the lift is where your specs go

n-ster · Jan 27, 2012, 07:37 AM

I would say to go for a GT 240, a different cooler, and a MUCH MUCH cheaper motherboard. Much smaller SSD. If you want to go with such a motherboard your better off with an i7 3820 (LGA 2011). Maybe a smaller PSU. A 2600K is going to last you long but won't bring you the bang/buck the the 2500K will.

RAM can be cheaper http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-299-CS

CPU Cooler --> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...57&subcat=1395 is better

Thermal paste --> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...d=57&subcat=27 or MX-4

You are going to Overclock though right?

Wrigleyvillain · Jan 27, 2012, 02:23 PM

Yes he plans to OC.

n-ster · Jan 27, 2012, 03:19 PM

In that case follow my advice xD

Wrigleyvillain · Jan 27, 2012, 03:25 PM

Yeah that is a pretty pricey board...not counting the fact I can get a Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 for $100 with a CPU at Microcenter (granted that deal not open to all and diff markets too but just sayin').

n-ster · Jan 27, 2012, 03:33 PM

If he wants he can go i7 3820 and get some nice 8x4GB RAM. He'll get a sweet motherboard and awesome computing power (basically better than any Z68 mobo and better than any SB CPU)

dathai · Jan 27, 2012, 07:01 PM

Thanks guy. I'm in the process of recompiling my shopping list, taking account of your advice.

@Wrigleyvillain unfortunately there are lots of great stores that only ship to the US or Canada. I'm in Ireland and so am pretty limited.

Just wondering, why does everyone seem to agree that a smaller SSD is better?
The programs I use, Adobe CS5, AutoCAD, 3DS Max etc, are all pretty large and I tend to want to switch between them in pretty rapid fire. Would this not be compromised by using smaller SSD and Intel SRT?

As for upping the CPU to a 2600k, it would cost me nearly Euro 110 for what seems to be a pretty small advantage for my uses.

@n-ster I do plan on overclocking the 2500k.

The updated list is:

Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CP-368-IN

Corsair Force Series 3 120GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (CSSD-F120GB3-BK)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-021-CS

Asus GeForce GTX 550Ti DirectCU 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-265-AS

MSI Z68A-G43-G3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-198-MS

Corsair Builder Series CX 600W V2 '80 Plus' Power Supply (CMPSU-600CXUKV2)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-048-CS

Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - Black
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-101-AN

Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-299-CS

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler (Socket Intel® Socket LGA1366/1156/1155/775/AMD Socket FM1/AM3+/AM3/AM2+/AM2)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HS-035-CM

Arctic Cooling MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=TH-003-AR

I am a little concerned about the Cooler Master Hyper 212 fitting both with the RAM and in the case. Does anybody have any experience of using it?

Thanks again

n-ster · Jan 27, 2012, 07:26 PM

You can always get lower profile RAM (ie the cheap Crucials 1600 cl10) ... I still stand on the 550Ti being too much, and if your paying that much, why not go for the 560 (not Ti). The motherboard still seems very expensive considering that it is pounds. If you want the 120GB SSD go for it.

But the video card definitively needs changing IMO

puma99dk| · Jan 27, 2012, 07:54 PM

does CAD only use Memory or also the memory on the GFX?

dathai · Jan 27, 2012, 09:58 PM

@n-ster I think you may be right about the gpu, but i've left it in until I can research a little more the support given by Autodesk and Adobe for GPU and Cuda, dependence on processing cores etc.
Regarding the motherboards, the cheapest I can z68 I can come across with usb3 support are all in and around the £80 mark so I can get it down to about that eg Z68Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 Intel

@puma99dk|that is still kind of a mystery. 3ds max uses gpu for view-ports, Photoshop uses Cuda as of cs5 with predictions of increasing support but I haven't figured out the rest yet. If anyone could shed some light on that part, it would be great.

DanishDevil · Jan 27, 2012, 11:54 PM

I'm not as familiar with it as it might seem, but all that I was told on here was to ensure that I stuffed the system to the teeth with RAM. The build that I did used workstation cards, though. He opted for much older generation workstation cards over current nVidia consumer cards, but I can't find anybody selling anything similar anymore.

Wrigleyvillain · Jan 28, 2012, 03:20 AM

You can get a Quadro 2000 for around $400.

n-ster · Jan 28, 2012, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrigleyvillain

You can get a Quadro 2000 for around $400.

I bet in the UK that translates to 350~400 pounds, which is not worth it for him.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-132-MS

has 336 CUDA cores instead of 192 the 550 Ti has and for only 30ish pounds more

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-140-OK

isn't that bad either for 96 pounds

puma99dk| · Jan 28, 2012, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n-ster

I bet in the UK that translates to 350~400 pounds, which is not worth it for him.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-132-MS

has 336 CUDA cores instead of 192 the 550 Ti has and for only 30ish pounds more

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-140-OK

isn't that bad either for 96 pounds

or he can find a used one, or a demo or something at a store to get a cheaper gfx.

dathai · Jan 29, 2012, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrigleyvillain

You can get a Quadro 2000 for around $400.

Having had a pretty good look into the cost-benefits of that level of GPU, that is way out of my price range. The Quadros seem to be just the consumer level bits with different clocking and drivers to slow them down. I guess if you're drilling for oil or whatever, absolute accuracy is worth it. To be honest for my purposes speed is more important than absolute accuracy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by n-ster

I bet in the UK that translates to 350~400 pounds, which is not worth it for him.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-132-MS

has 336 CUDA cores instead of 192 the 550 Ti has and for only 30ish pounds more

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-140-OK

isn't that bad either for 96 pounds

Pretty much decided on the 460 now. Thanks for the advice.

Anyway, here is what I hope is the final list:

Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM

Corsair Force Series 3 120GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (CSSD-F120GB3-BK)

OcUK GeForce GTX 460 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard

Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - Black

Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9)

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler (Socket Intel® Socket LGA1366/1156/1155/775/AMD Socket FM1/AM3+/AM3/AM2+/AM2)

Arctic Cooling MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g)

I've found a motherboard that's about half the price of the one I was looking at first, but still has the Usb3, firewire, overclocking options I want.

Coming in at Euro825, I'm pretty happy but if anyone spots any place to shave another bit off, I would certainly appreciate it.

A little concerned about the Hyper 212 fitting in the case and with the RAM, but there seems to be a consensus that it fits in the Antec 300 and I can always move/flip the fan if it covers a RAM slot. Cross that bridge when I come to it!

So, what do you guys think?

Jan 26, 2012, 07:57 PM	#1
dathai Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 23 (0.04/day) Thanks: 37 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	CAD machine Hi, I had posted here before and got a lot of great advice on building my first rig. The backstory is I'm an architect looking for a system that will handle CS5 Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Acrobat Pro X (often with very large CPU workloads from big Illustrator files), AutoCad, 3dsMax (relativity small render resolutions,all still), SketchUp with the occasional bit of Premier Pro. Windows 7 is only option for OS although I have tried to keep the Hackintosh option open. A wide range of software, I know, but this is the nature of my job. Going on the advice I've gotten here and elsewhere I'm looking at this build Intel Core i5-2500k 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CP-368-IN Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-054-AK Corsair Force Series 3 120GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-021-CS Asus GeForce GTX 550Ti 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-265-AS Corsair Builder Series CX 600W V2 '80 Plus' Power Supply (CMPSU-600CXUKV2) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-048-CS Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - Black http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-101-AN Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-094-KS Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HS-035-AR Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=AC-000-AC I have my own monitors and HDDs lying around for storage so they are not. The system will never be used for gaming but I do plan on overclocking the 2500k. If anybody could offer advice if I've got overkill, leaving aspects out etc, I would really appreciate it? May not buy it all from overclockersUK but I can do a bit more shopping around once I have a final shopping list.

System Name:	CADmachine
Processor:	Intel Core i5-2500k @4.00GHz
Motherboard:	Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3
Cooling:	Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Memory:	Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel
Video Card:	GeForce GTX 460 1024MB
Hard Disk:	Corsair Force Series 3 120GB SATA 6Gbs Solid State Drive
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell 21.5in ST2220M Full HD WLED Widescreen, Acer 24 inch Full HD LCD
Case:	Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
PSU:	Corsair Builder Series CX 600W V2 '80 Plus' Power Supply
Software:	Windows 8 Consumer Preview

Jan 26, 2012, 09:12 PM	#2
DanishDevil Eligible for custom title Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,633 (3.07/day) Thanks: 1,366 Thanked 2,018 Times in 1,585 Posts System Specs	What I would recommend you do differently simply for ease of use is get an SSD smaller than 64GB and utilize Intel SRT to automatically cache your most-used data to your SSD. You'll never have to worry about running out of SSD space, and your most used files will be fastest. Overall performance will be a bit lower because you'll only have half the space on the SSD side of things, but it will be completely automated after you set it up. Also, the CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ is a great bang/buck cooler that comes with enough of its own TIM to not need to purchase any separately. Looks like they only have the Evo, virtually the same cooler. Arctic Silver 5 is ancient per today's standards, too. You might want to bump up from a Corsair CX to a TXv2 or HX model. Longer warranty and better reliability if you spend more than the CX series. Overall, looks like a very solid build for CAD/content creation! __________________ [B/S/T: FS/FT Cisco VPN Gigabit Routers \| WTB] [Logitech Z-5500 Digital Soundroom \| The TPU Darkroom \| The TPU Zune Social \| Tech Net Subscribers Club] Last edited by DanishDevil; Jan 26, 2012 at 09:18 PM.

System Name:	Big Devil
Processor:	Intel Core i5 2500K @ 4GHz
Motherboard:	ECS P67H2-A2
Cooling:	XSPC Rasa \| Black Ice GT Stealth 240 \| XSPC X2O 750 \| 2x ACF12PWM \| PrimoChill White 7/16"
Memory:	2x4GB Corsair Vengeance LP Arctic White 1600MHz CL9
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 680 w/ Hi-Flow Bracket
Hard Disk:	Intel 520 Series 180GB + WD 1TB Blue
Optical Drive:	Samsung DVD Burner
CRT/LCD Model:	HP ZR30W 30" 2650x1600 IPS
Case:	Corsair 600T SE
Sound Card:	Xonar Essence STX \| Logitech Z-580 \| Sennheisser PC350 "Hero" Modded \| Sennheisser HD 280 Pro
PSU:	ABS SL 1050W (Enermax Revolution Rebadge)
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Benchmarks:	Ducky Year of the Tiger w/ Cherry MX Browns \| Razer Deathadder Black Edition \| Razer Destructor

System Name:	Delta // HTPC
Processor:	Intel i7 3770K // Intel i3 550 3.2Ghz
Motherboard:	ASRock Z77 Extreme6 // Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H Socket 1156
Cooling:	Corsair H100 // SILVERSTONE NT07-1156 90mm
Memory:	Corsair Vengeance 1866 16gb //Corsair DDR3 1600 4 Gb
Video Card:	HIS 7950 3 Gb //Sapphire 6670 1 Gb
Hard Disk:	Samsung 840 250 SSD, WD Caviar Blue 500// Corsair M4 64 Gb Solid State, SAMSUNG F4 2 Tb, WD 1 Tb
Optical Drive:	LG DVDR 24X // Lite on DVDR 24X
CRT/LCD Model:	HP 23xi IPS 1080p" // 50" Samsung Plasma 720p
Case:	Corsair Obsidian Series 550D // Silverstone Granada GD05
Sound Card:	ASUS Xonar DS // HDMI Bit Stream to Yamaha RX V571
PSU:	Seagate M12II 750 // Corsair CX 430
Software:	Windows 7 64bit // Windows 7 64bit with XBMC Eden
Benchmarks:	I scored P9327 in 3DMark 11

Jan 26, 2012, 09:26 PM	#3
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,951 (2.36/day) Thanks: 979 Thanked 897 Times in 655 Posts System Specs	Agree. Switch to the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO or + if you can find one. (The EVO copper tubing is tighter so better cooling) But both are way better then the AC 7. A TX650 Corsair or HX if you want modular (there are a lot of wires with the TX)

Jan 26, 2012, 09:58 PM	#4
Wrigleyvillain Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,556 (2.19/day) Thanks: 1,540 Thanked 1,596 Times in 1,137 Posts System Specs	Generally, CS5 can benefit from HT as will some of your other production apps and plug-ins surely so you may want to go with a 2600K. Has 2MB more cache too. http://forums.adobe.com/thread/806048 __________________ “i dont care what consoles have they dont have mouse and keyboard” -crazyeyesreaper

System Name:	DarkStar
Processor:	i5 3570K
Motherboard:	Asrock Z77E-ITX
Cooling:	Apogee HD White/AC Nexxos 120/XSPC H2O 750
Memory:	8GB Samsung Green 1600
Video Card:	MSI HD 7950 TF3
Hard Disk:	OCZ Agility 3 240GB
Optical Drive:	Asus Blu Ray burner
CRT/LCD Model:	23" Apple Cinema Display HD Aluminum
Case:	Bit Fenix Prodigy (Yang)
PSU:	NZXT Hale82 650W
Software:	Windows 7 x64

Jan 26, 2012, 10:03 PM	#5
happy Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 615 (0.84/day) Thanks: 192 Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts System Specs	I just built a CAD machine, but I think I paid almost half the price you would be paying. I think you are building a gaming pc rather than a CAD pc.

System Name:	HAPPY
Processor:	i7-2600
Motherboard:	ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3
Cooling:	CORSAIR CAFA50 (CPU)
Memory:	4GB 1333mhz
Video Card:	GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI
Hard Disk:	HITACHI 160GB 7200RPM HDT721016SLA380 & 5 IDE 250GB WD HDD
Optical Drive:	Asus 24xDVD±RW Serial ATA
PSU:	Corsair 650 TX
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Jan 26, 2012, 10:18 PM	#7
DanishDevil Eligible for custom title Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,633 (3.07/day) Thanks: 1,366 Thanked 2,018 Times in 1,585 Posts System Specs	CAD is similar to a gaming PC, except for a CAD machine, you just want a mid-range nvidia GPU, and more RAM rather than faster RAM. Otherwise, they're fairly similar. A bump to a 2600K wouldn't be a terrible idea either, but not a priority in my eyes, as it's easily upgradeable later. __________________ [B/S/T: FS/FT Cisco VPN Gigabit Routers \| WTB] [Logitech Z-5500 Digital Soundroom \| The TPU Darkroom \| The TPU Zune Social \| Tech Net Subscribers Club]

Jan 26, 2012, 10:23 PM	#8
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,951 (2.36/day) Thanks: 979 Thanked 897 Times in 655 Posts System Specs	You should go with a Cad design video card. Gaming cards are for gaming there faster. Cad design cards are more accurate but slower

Jan 26, 2012, 10:32 PM	#9
happy Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 615 (0.84/day) Thanks: 192 Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts System Specs	Mobo: Gigabyte P55 USB3 GPU: Sapphire 5670 Memory: Kingston 4GB x2 1600mhz CPU: i5 750 (Surely slower than the 2500 but will definitely do the job for CAD) PSU: Corsair CX430w HDD: 640GB Caviar Blue

Jan 26, 2012, 10:41 PM	#11
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,951 (2.36/day) Thanks: 979 Thanked 897 Times in 655 Posts System Specs	Understand @ Happy. Go to the top of the page and click "User CP" on the lift is where your specs go

Jan 27, 2012, 07:37 AM	#12
n-ster Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,306 (5.13/day) Thanks: 1,210 Thanked 1,420 Times in 1,153 Posts System Specs	I would say to go for a GT 240, a different cooler, and a MUCH MUCH cheaper motherboard. Much smaller SSD. If you want to go with such a motherboard your better off with an i7 3820 (LGA 2011). Maybe a smaller PSU. A 2600K is going to last you long but won't bring you the bang/buck the the 2500K will. RAM can be cheaper http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-299-CS CPU Cooler --> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...57&subcat=1395 is better Thermal paste --> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...d=57&subcat=27 or MX-4 You are going to Overclock though right? __________________ My Heatware Last edited by n-ster; Jan 27, 2012 at 07:47 AM.

System Name:	Overkill? naaa, browsing TPU with this is extra special :)
Processor:	i7 3930k @ 4.5 Ghz
Motherboard:	AsRock Fatal1ty Pro
Cooling:	Corsair H80 Push-Pull Noctua fans
Memory:	16GB (4x4gb) 2133Mhz CL11 T1 Samsung UDIMM
Video Card:	7970 @ 1050 core
Hard Disk:	240GB Intel 520 SSD + 60GB Vertex 2 + (2+1)TB Seagate
Optical Drive:	Lite-On 24x DVD burner
CRT/LCD Model:	27" 2560x1440 [Korean] PCBANK
Case:	Lian-Li K62 + steelseries Sensei RAW or WoW Catalyst
Sound Card:	iBasso D10 + ATH-AD870 or Shure 750DJ
PSU:	Corsair HX850 + TT Meka G1 or Corsair K60 Mech Kbs
Software:	Windows 7 Professional X64

Jan 27, 2012, 02:23 PM	#13
Wrigleyvillain Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,556 (2.19/day) Thanks: 1,540 Thanked 1,596 Times in 1,137 Posts System Specs	Yes he plans to OC. __________________ “i dont care what consoles have they dont have mouse and keyboard” -crazyeyesreaper

Jan 27, 2012, 03:19 PM	#14
n-ster Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,306 (5.13/day) Thanks: 1,210 Thanked 1,420 Times in 1,153 Posts System Specs	In that case follow my advice xD __________________ My Heatware

Jan 27, 2012, 03:25 PM	#15
Wrigleyvillain Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,556 (2.19/day) Thanks: 1,540 Thanked 1,596 Times in 1,137 Posts System Specs	Yeah that is a pretty pricey board...not counting the fact I can get a Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 for $100 with a CPU at Microcenter (granted that deal not open to all and diff markets too but just sayin'). __________________ “i dont care what consoles have they dont have mouse and keyboard” -crazyeyesreaper

Jan 27, 2012, 03:33 PM	#16
n-ster Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,306 (5.13/day) Thanks: 1,210 Thanked 1,420 Times in 1,153 Posts System Specs	If he wants he can go i7 3820 and get some nice 8x4GB RAM. He'll get a sweet motherboard and awesome computing power (basically better than any Z68 mobo and better than any SB CPU) __________________ My Heatware

Jan 27, 2012, 07:01 PM	#17
dathai Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 23 (0.04/day) Thanks: 37 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Thanks guy. I'm in the process of recompiling my shopping list, taking account of your advice. @Wrigleyvillain unfortunately there are lots of great stores that only ship to the US or Canada. I'm in Ireland and so am pretty limited. Just wondering, why does everyone seem to agree that a smaller SSD is better? The programs I use, Adobe CS5, AutoCAD, 3DS Max etc, are all pretty large and I tend to want to switch between them in pretty rapid fire. Would this not be compromised by using smaller SSD and Intel SRT? As for upping the CPU to a 2600k, it would cost me nearly Euro 110 for what seems to be a pretty small advantage for my uses. @n-ster I do plan on overclocking the 2500k. The updated list is: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - OEM http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CP-368-IN Corsair Force Series 3 120GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (CSSD-F120GB3-BK) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HD-021-CS Asus GeForce GTX 550Ti DirectCU 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-265-AS MSI Z68A-G43-G3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-198-MS Corsair Builder Series CX 600W V2 '80 Plus' Power Supply (CMPSU-600CXUKV2) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-048-CS Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - Black http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CA-101-AN Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-299-CS Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler (Socket Intel® Socket LGA1366/1156/1155/775/AMD Socket FM1/AM3+/AM3/AM2+/AM2) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HS-035-CM Arctic Cooling MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=TH-003-AR I am a little concerned about the Cooler Master Hyper 212 fitting both with the RAM and in the case. Does anybody have any experience of using it? Thanks again

Jan 27, 2012, 07:26 PM	#18
n-ster Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,306 (5.13/day) Thanks: 1,210 Thanked 1,420 Times in 1,153 Posts System Specs	You can always get lower profile RAM (ie the cheap Crucials 1600 cl10) ... I still stand on the 550Ti being too much, and if your paying that much, why not go for the 560 (not Ti). The motherboard still seems very expensive considering that it is pounds. If you want the 120GB SSD go for it. But the video card definitively needs changing IMO __________________ My Heatware

Jan 27, 2012, 07:54 PM	#19
puma99dk\| Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Denmark WTF xD Posts: 2,095 (0.73/day) Thanks: 244 Thanked 466 Times in 326 Posts System Specs	does CAD only use Memory or also the memory on the GFX? __________________ i5-2500k @ 4785mhz \| ECS P67H2-A

System Name:	Lynni / Lynni-Win8-Test
Processor:	Intel Core i5-3750K @ 4.6ghz \| Bios: offset 0.045 \| CPU-Z: 1.232v \| Intel Pentium G860 @ 3,0ghz
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus V Extreme Bios 1707 \| ECS P67H2-A Black Series V1.1 \| SuperMicro C7Q67
Cooling:	Corsair H100 @ 2xNoctua NF-F12 PWM \| Intel Stock Cooler
Memory:	Corsair Vengeance LP 16gb (4x4gb) @ 1600mhz (9-9-9-24 T1) / Adata XPG™ Gaming v2.0 Series 2x2GB
Video Card:	Asus GTX670-DC2G-4GD5 @ 1015/1502mhz / EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 640mb / Asus EN9800GT/DI/1GD3/A
Hard Disk:	OS: Samsung 830Series 128gb SSD \| Gaming: WDC Green 500gb \| Anime/DATA: 2xWDC Green 2TB WD20EARX
Optical Drive:	Pioneer DVR-216DBK \| Samsung SH-B123L @ SATA
CRT/LCD Model:	Philips 221EL2 LED 21,5 inch Monitor & Philips 32inch LCD TV @ 1080p
Case:	Cooler Master HAF XB \| 1xNoctua NF-F12 PWM \| 2x Noctua NF-R8
Sound Card:	Asus Xonar Essence STX \| Creative Aurvana Live! \| Logitech Z-2300
PSU:	SeaSonic X-760 80PLUS \| Silverstone ST45SF-G Double GOLDIE :3
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 OEM - KIS2012CBE \o/ \| Win8 Pro 64bit @ Box - No SSD atm
Benchmarks:	3DMark11: Pxxxx - Unigine Heaven Benchmark: xxxx \| Nuth tested, yet!!!

Jan 27, 2012, 09:58 PM	#20
dathai Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 23 (0.04/day) Thanks: 37 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	@n-ster I think you may be right about the gpu, but i've left it in until I can research a little more the support given by Autodesk and Adobe for GPU and Cuda, dependence on processing cores etc. Regarding the motherboards, the cheapest I can z68 I can come across with usb3 support are all in and around the £80 mark so I can get it down to about that eg Z68Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 Intel @puma99dk\|that is still kind of a mystery. 3ds max uses gpu for view-ports, Photoshop uses Cuda as of cs5 with predictions of increasing support but I haven't figured out the rest yet. If anyone could shed some light on that part, it would be great.

Jan 27, 2012, 11:54 PM	#21
DanishDevil Eligible for custom title Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,633 (3.07/day) Thanks: 1,366 Thanked 2,018 Times in 1,585 Posts System Specs	I'm not as familiar with it as it might seem, but all that I was told on here was to ensure that I stuffed the system to the teeth with RAM. The build that I did used workstation cards, though. He opted for much older generation workstation cards over current nVidia consumer cards, but I can't find anybody selling anything similar anymore. __________________ [B/S/T: FS/FT Cisco VPN Gigabit Routers \| WTB] [Logitech Z-5500 Digital Soundroom \| The TPU Darkroom \| The TPU Zune Social \| Tech Net Subscribers Club]

Jan 28, 2012, 03:20 AM	#22
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