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Old Feb 1, 2012, 10:03 PM   #126
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Often times sci-fi inspires people to create what they see as well, almost like a self fulfilling prophecy : ]
[offtopic] Well, now that we have things like IBM's Watson that will provide a natural language interface, HAL 9000 can't be too far off. I for one welcome our cybernetic overlords and am eager to join their ranks.

I think sci-fi captures only a small fraction of the ideas floating around out there at any given moment. So it certainly presages some developments, but I think it's the exception for it to make them a reality very much sooner than would have bee the case anyway.
 
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[offtopic] Well, now that we have things like IBM's Watson that will provide a natural language interface, HAL 9000 can't be too far off. I for one welcome our cybernetic overlords and am eager to join their ranks.
Cybernetic overlords don't want washed up lawyers that smell like cat pee or art history majors. Sorry man.
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Cybernetic overlords don't want washed up lawyers that smell like cat pee or art history majors. Sorry man.
Still beats being a dirty hippie.
 
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Jailtime, has anyone ever seen sweedish prison

http://gizmodo.com/5881212/the-pirat...to-nice-prison

more like a closed vacation,

screw em i say
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Well MM it took longer than I had originally thought but, Welcome back my friend. Muahahahaha
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Old Feb 1, 2012, 10:18 PM   #131
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Jailtime, has anyone ever seen sweedish prison

http://gizmodo.com/5881212/the-pirat...to-nice-prison

more like a closed vacation,

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TF reports that because the case originated so long ago, and the defendants' sentences are so light to begin with (all less than a year each), they may end up never stepping foot in a cell. Sweden!
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Well MM it took longer than I had originally thought but, Welcome back my friend. Muahahahaha
Personally, I'm appalled by his self-restraint.
 
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Personally, I'm appalled by his self-restraint.
Me too, everyone knows it's not stealing, there is no physical media so what's the big deal? I mean I could make some stupid ass 7 legged spider, let it roam the internet and say I could've made Thousands but people stole it.
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lol get ready for a very bland world.
So you think "super duper weapon 14" is entertaining. Good for ya.

For the rest of us, we know that acutal art happens not because of money, but because of beauty.
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So you think "super duper weapon 14" is entertaining. Good for ya.

For the rest of us, we know that acutal art happens not because of money, but because of beauty.
Then you don't know any professional artists.
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Old Feb 1, 2012, 11:56 PM   #135
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Its gonna be a mix of 1984 and Soylent Green I think. Maybe a sprinkle of Minority Report.
Nope, 100% starship troopers
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Great news.

Finally these bastards get what they deserve.
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Old Feb 2, 2012, 01:05 AM   #137
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it's relevant because if their wages weren't so high the films would cost less and the piracy rate would also decrease.

Also look at it another way. An electrician puts up a light switch, he gets paid a flat fee for this. Should he then get royalties for everyone that uses that light switch?
You're right and I like your analogy which TheMailMan78 couldn't refuse at all.

The retribution model for digital content is so broken.
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Old Feb 2, 2012, 01:27 AM   #138
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Cybernetic overlords don't want washed up lawyers that smell like cat pee or art history majors. Sorry man.
omg the best thing ive read on the internet all year!!
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Old Feb 2, 2012, 01:31 AM   #139
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omg the best thing ive read on the internet all year!!
For the record, I just want everyone to know that I'm not an art history major.
 
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You're right and I like your analogy which TheMailMan78 couldn't refuse at all.

The retribution model for digital content is so broken.
The analogy didn't apply to the conversation. But since it made you feel fuzzy inside you should run with that.
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Then it needs to apply to all professions. Doctors, Mechanics, Programmers, etc. Lets see how many people pay you for your hard work then.
LOL A doctor's and, say, a teacher's work simply cannot be compared to that of an authentic artist or a media "artist". Medicine and education is far more important than art.

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LOL A doctor's and, say, a teacher's work simply cannot be compared to that of an authentic artist or a media "artist". Medicine and education is far more important than art.
I can see where someone without an education or common sense would think that. However someone with any kind of historical and or classical education knows better then that.
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I can see where someone without an education or common sense would think that. However someone with any kind of historical and or classical education knows better then that.
It doesn't take an education to know how insignificant art is to society. My apologies, but I can live without the Mona Lisa and Tupac. You can comment on my lack of education, but I can comment on the irony of your ignorant assumptions on a person's education from your lack of prose.
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It doesn't take an education to know how insignificant art is to society. My apologies, but I can live without the Mona Lisa and Tupac. You can comment on my lack of education, but I can comment on the irony of your ignorant assumptions on a person's education from your lack of prose.
Then remove the radio from your car, throw out your TV and music collection. Burn all your clothes. Toss out your furniture and tear any books in half. Don't forget all of those toys you have too. Like computer cases and anything else that a conceptual artist had his hand in. Then gouge your eyes out and cut your ears off to be sure you are never exposed to an artists work again. But be careful. Those doctors you will have to see after your artistic purge may have learned from a book with medical illustrations.

Yeah we contribute nothing to your life. Common sense isn't so common I guess.
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Then remove the radio from your car, throw out your TV and music collection. Burn all your clothes. Toss out your furniture and tear any books in half. Don't forget all of those toys you have too. Like computer cases and anything else that a conceptual artist had his hand in. Then gouge your eyes out and cut your ears off to be sure you are never exposed to an artists work again. But be careful. Those doctors you will have to see after your artistic purge may have learned from a book with medical illustrations.

Yeah we contribute nothing to your life. Common sense isn't so common I guess.
You absolutely contribute nothing to my life, so I'm not going to inflict injury upon myself as a preventative measure from exposing myself to trash. I neither like listening to music nor watching television, so that is besides the point. Your definition of art includes everything that is more complex than a squiggly line; that's a philosophical argument more so than it is literal. By your definition, taking a shower is a form of art. Sweeping the floor is a form of art. Wiping my ass is a form of art.

Art is art. Paintings and music are art; my socks and my boxers are not. I'm sorry if your overpriced and completely useless education taught you otherwise. A board certified doctor does not receive his license solely through a textbook-based education; there is a reason laboratory and residency are necessary.
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You absolutely contribute nothing to my life, so I'm not going to inflict injury upon myself as a preventative measure from exposing myself to trash. I neither like listening to music nor watching television, so that is besides the point. Your definition of art includes everything that is more complex than a squiggly line; that's a philosophical argument more so than it is literal. By your definition, taking a shower is a form of art. Sweeping the floor is a form of art. Wiping my ass is a form of art.

Art is art. Paintings and music are art; my socks and my boxers are not. I'm sorry if your overpriced and completely useless education taught you otherwise. A board certified doctor does not receive his license solely through a textbook-based education; there is a reason laboratory and residency are necessary.
That's why I said you need an education to understand how artists are relevant to your life. Everything I listed in my example is an example of a recognized art. Not sweeping the floor. Not wiping your ass. Your examples show a vast lack of understanding how things you use everyday in a recognized field in art.

For example the doctors that treat you in a hospital learn a lot from medical books. Those medical books are FILLED with medical illustrations. The artists that created those illustrations have more education then the doctors that are reading them? How you ask? To be a medical artists you have to have a PHD. That's right those artist have to not only have the same PHD that a surgeon has but also get his/her masters in the field of medical illustration. They tend to know more about the human body then most practicing doctors. They have to do a residency also.

So again you obviously do not understand and with the attitude of your last post I doubt you will.
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You absolutely contribute nothing to my life, so I'm not going to inflict injury upon myself as a preventative measure from exposing myself to trash. I neither like listening to music nor watching television, so that is besides the point. Your definition of art includes everything that is more complex than a squiggly line; that's a philosophical argument more so than it is literal. By your definition, taking a shower is a form of art. Sweeping the floor is a form of art. Wiping my ass is a form of art.

Art is art. Paintings and music are art; my socks and my boxers are not. I'm sorry if your overpriced and completely useless education taught you otherwise. A board certified doctor does not receive his license solely through a textbook-based education; there is a reason laboratory and residency are necessary.
Wow people should really know better by now. There is an saying something along the lines of never argue with an TheMailMan idiot cause they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience...

We all know TMM is on a personal mission on this one right here and the more you come back the more he will continue to bait you

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Then you don't know any professional artists.
There is no such thing as a professional artist. You're either an artist and you do it for the art in and of itself, or you are a sellout, catering to a low common denominator.

Don't get me wrong, I think art in general is mostly a waste of time and energy.
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There is no such thing as a professional artist. You're either an artist and you do it for the art in and of itself, or you are a sellout, catering to a low common denominator.

Don't get me wrong, I think art in general is mostly a waste of time and energy.

If that's true there has NEVER been a master in history that wasn't a sellout. By the way nice avatar.
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If that's true there has NEVER been a master in history that wasn't a sellout. By the way nice avatar.
You fail to understand what you yourself write as "professional" artist.

The great masters aren't necessarily "professional" artists.

But the moment something becomes your profession, it literally means you do it for the money. Hence, you do not do it for the art itself. If they do it for the money, they WILL deviate from what they would otherwise do, if even slightly, in order to please a client. Thus, they are selling out. Sigh. Inferior intellects bore me.
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