Pirate Bay Founders Stare At Jailtime as Supreme Court Rejects Appeal

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Horrux

You fail to understand what you yourself write as "professional" artist.

The great masters aren't necessarily "professional" artists.

But the moment something becomes your profession, it literally means you do it for the money. Hence, you do not do it for the art itself. Sigh.

Name an artist that was a great that didn't do it for a commission at one point.

Go ahead Ill wait.

Thus, they are selling out. Sigh. Inferior intellects bore me

People who talk about a subject they have no real knowledge of amuse me.

[Horrux]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Name an artist that was a great that didn't do it for a commission at one point.

Go ahead Ill wait.

Why? Because you fail to see what I'm talking about, and thus need to reduce it to something you can grasp?

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Horrux

Why? Because you fail to see what I'm talking about, and thus need to reduce it to something you can grasp?

The difference between you and me is I have a degree in Illustration. You are the one grasping at played out talking points and stereotypes.

You are attempting to troll a troll master my friend. You need to be more subtle to be effective.

[Frick]

Originally Posted by Horrux

But the moment something becomes your profession, it literally means you do it for the money. Hence, you do not do it for the art itself. If they do it for the money, they WILL deviate from what they would otherwise do, if even slightly, in order to please a client. Thus, they are selling out. Sigh. Inferior intellects bore me.

Like every single person in the history of ever, artist or no.

[Horrux]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The difference between you and me is I have a degree in Illustration. You are the one grasping at played out talking points and stereotypes.

You are attempting to troll a troll master my friend. You need to be more subtle to be effective.

I'm sure there are many more differences between you and I.

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The difference between you and me is I have a degree in Illustration. You are the one grasping at played out talking points and stereotypes.

You are attempting to troll a troll master my friend. You need to be more subtle to be effective.

please change your user title to "Troll Master"

[TheMailMan78]

lol We better get back on topic. I sense the hammer.

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

lol We better get back on topic. I sense the hammer.

i dont think the hammer exists anymore.

back on topic. pirates suck.

[Yo_Wattup]

TheMailMan, seriously why do you care so much about pirating? I'm a music artist, and I don't care who steals my stuff, art is for sharing. And besides, with all the wars and bullshit going WHY SHOULD THE US FOCUS ON THIS SHIT, maybe we steal online because oh I dunno, we can't afford anything because of the goddamn oil prices.

It pisses me off when people like you would rather support the multi-millionaire pigs in Hollywood more than the orphaned kids and whatnot in Afghanistan.

No offence intended, I just want a rational debate.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Yo_Wattup

TheMailMan, seriously why do you care so much about pirating? I'm a music artist, and I don't care who steals my stuff, art is for sharing. And besides, with all the wars and bullshit going WHY SHOULD THE US FOCUS ON THIS SHIT, maybe we steal online because oh I dunno, we can't afford anything because of the goddamn oil prices.

It pisses me off when people like you would rather support the multi-millionaire pigs in Hollywood more than the orphaned kids and whatnot in Afghanistan.

No offence intended, I just want a rational debate.

Because I make money off of copyrights and my art.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Because I make money off of copyrights and my art.

[Horrux]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Because I make money off of copyrights and my art.

Sellout.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by Horrux

Sellout.

[Wrigleyvillain]

More like "house and feed the family" but yeah...

[Prima.Vera]

I think this whole deal is a circus bs. How can you compare IT Pirates with real Pirates??? Even the words "Pirated content" are flawed. Pirates rob ships, cargo, etc, they DON'T copy it, than share it with the world. Common people weak up and use your brains for a chance!! You are living in a dream world controlled by others, haha!

P.S.

I know murder criminals treated better than those Swedish guys btw...

[silkstone]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Because I make money off of copyrights and my art.

Would you care if i printed out a copy of one of your pieces of art, framed it and put it on my living-room wall?

IMO, there are two distinct types of piracy, those for profit and those of opportunity. I hold different opinions of both as they are vastly different.

[Yo_Wattup]

[twicksisted]

Originally Posted by silkstone

Would you care if i printed out a copy of one of your pieces of art, framed it and put it on my living-room wall?

IMO, there are two distinct types of piracy, those for profit and those of opportunity. I hold different opinions of both as they are vastly different.

yeah lets be honest here, unless youre picasso or van gough, i dont think that you can view someone "appreciating" your art by showing it to friends and hanging a "copy" on his wall as damaging to your "art"... youre actually lucky that people are interested and viewing it in the first place.

If im wrong, please link me to your "art" and give me a rough estimate on the "value" you put on it and sell it for so i can get a perspective.

EDIT: Just as a basic background here, I have worked for (not going to name drop) major record labels and have managed labels for 7 years, I finally left the music industry last year and vowed never to return. My views of so called piracy have definately changed over the years... perhaps a few years ago before major corporations got involved in coercing politicians into writing laws, I was anti someone stealing works from someone, thesedays I find the line incredibly blurry as the actualy beneficiarys arent the artists but major corporations

[AphexDreamer]

Spoken well.

[driver66]

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

Spoken well.

Yes . Very well said, and true .

[Easy Rhino]

hey, look at the people justifying stealing somebody else's property. in this day and age artist's don't need big distributors to sell their work now that we have the internet. obviously this scares the big distributors because they are quickly realizing they are all but irrelevant so they are fighting hard to protect their own. this doesn't justify you stealing their stuff though. instead, you should be promoting and buying from independent artists and smaller labels through the internet to foster the coming change of digital and independent distribution.

[erocker]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

you should be promoting and buying from independent artists and smaller labels through the internet to foster the coming change of digital and independent distribution.

Double thanks.

[AphexDreamer]

If people have the money, they are going to spend it on things they like or I guess millions and millions of people truly are petty thieves(Gasp!). Ironically enough its the people doing all the pirating that are paving the way to the new age of digital distribution.

I make my music for people to enjoy, that brings me the greatest satisfaction, I'd beg for my stuff to be all around the net. The big industries are overflowing with cash from big actors,authors, artists, etc... living luxuriantly while the people who get their stuff for free are just trying to make it by or are middle class paying for school,etc... The ones complaining are the people who already have the fame and wealth.

I don't hear any small time artists complaining about piracy? Why? Because if they were so heavily pirated they wouldn't be a small time artist.

[Prima.Vera]

Slightly off topic:

[twicksisted]

Not name dropping yet again but just an insiders view to the record industry... one of the major dance compilation record labels, thats very well advertised here in the UK and abroad, uses bittorrent to "aquire" track masters for their compilation CD's... yes, we are talking about MP3 320kbps files used to press CD compilations lol, not legitimate torrents from actual known sources, just plain old low quality pirated tracks available freely to everyone else... its ridiculous... also i might add that that label and their brand launched a campaign of sueing people who used torrents to download their copyrighted music a few years back in the UK... not sure how well that went for them. What a joke.