$48.99 Samsung 30nm DDR3 1600 hitting 2133?!? - Page 6

EarthDog · Feb 7, 2012, 01:33 PM

Overclocking your memory usually yields VERY little performance gains. I would do it for space, but not for overclocking, unless you benchmark with Hwbot or something.

t_ski · Feb 7, 2012, 01:42 PM

I think you get more out of same speeds but better timings, correct? Usually higher speeds and looser timings equals about the same performance.

EarthDog · Feb 7, 2012, 02:00 PM

This is correct. ^^

Regardless though, in most cases, it yields little to no performance gains..especially something tangible. You *may* get a frame or two, but unless you are getting 5, and now 7, you wont notice.

Paulieg · Feb 7, 2012, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_ski

I think you get more out of same speeds but better timings, correct? Usually higher speeds and looser timings equals about the same performance.

Not on newer Intel platforms. Speed is king, but it's kinda subjective as to how much "real world" performance that overclocking provides. I will say that I can feel a significant difference between 1600 CAS 7 and 1866 CAS 8. The systems just flows better better at 1866. However, I really can't notice any difference b/t 1866 and 2133.

EarthDog · Feb 7, 2012, 02:06 PM

On newer intel platforms too.

cadaveca · Feb 7, 2012, 02:30 PM

I'd like to see benchmarks with MultiGPU, exploring how much a role memory plays.

I think i'll be joining this thread. I've not noticed anyone rally posting subtimings, what are we looking at here?

Paulieg · Feb 7, 2012, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthDog

On newer intel platforms too.

I knew you were going to link that thread.

That's why I mentioned "flow". I know that benchmarks don't show much of a difference, but everything just feels snappier at 1866 CAS 8 than 1600 CAS 7. I've considered that it's a placebo affect, but I honestly don't think so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

I'd like to see benchmarks with MultiGPU, exploring how much a role memory plays.

I think i'll be joining this thread. I've not noticed anyone rally posting subtimings, what are we looking at here?

I'll post some subtimings tonight or tomorrow, after I get my 2600k back on water.

EarthDog · Feb 7, 2012, 03:11 PM

"Butt dyno's" (

) are so subjective though. If you were put through a double blind test, I would bet good money says you couldnt tell the difference to the point of quantitating (is that a word?!!) the differences (meaning, Yeah, that window opened faster or...that app opened faster).

Cad - I would love to see those results as well and if it changes. I know overclocking the CPU helps push the pixels in multi GPU configs, but not sure about memory. If I wasnt balls deep in reviews I would test that with 580's...

cadaveca · Feb 7, 2012, 03:15 PM

I know memory makes a difference in certain apps With MultiGPU. But whatever, would be nice to have a list of whta apps it matters with, and what apps do not care. Might be an interesting list.

At least ya got work to do though, now stop posting and get'er done!

Clearly, I gots time to post.

EarthDog · Feb 7, 2012, 03:19 PM

I would love to see those tests. So far, nobody has tested it though, so its all an assumption to this point (but clearly a logical jump I agree with).

Yeah yeah

... trying to wrap up this Evga FTW article and some Geil memory (arriving today) already so I can finally sell off the entire platform and get back to my 55x SB and benching. I dont like this platform as it stands. Its kind of sad to me that my Asrock Extreme4-M was the most stable board out of the box vs UD7 and FTW... LOL (but I digress).

cadaveca · Feb 7, 2012, 03:31 PM

Yeah, I'm waiting on the samsung memory to arrive still.

I've tested quite a few apps, of course, and the most noticible is Dirt2 or F12010...Codemasters games in general, but I'm very interested to see how other apps behave. It's a huge undertaking to test, for sure.

It's interesting to see Samsung back in the game, last semi-decent ICs were HFC0, if i remember right.

revin · Feb 7, 2012, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

I think i'll be joining this thread. I've not noticed anyone rally posting subtimings, what are we looking at here?

Since you mentioned it how about the Mem Tweakit screenies
[Mushkin sample]

boomstik360 · Feb 7, 2012, 04:51 PM

I love this ram. 16GB 2200 Mhz 9-10-10-28 1T 1.53v! Sexah for $40 each lol I still haven't got around to going higher yet. Waiting for a 2500/2600k from a friend.

tedy · Feb 7, 2012, 04:55 PM

what is that service when you can order to europe? so service orders to imaginary us address and then sends?

Paulieg · Feb 7, 2012, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomstik360

I love this ram. 16GB 2200 Mhz 9-10-10-28 1T 1.53v! Sexah for $40 each lol I still haven't got around to going higher yet. Waiting for a 2500/2600k from a friend.

Nice. I'm running close to that now. I'm not sure how you are going to clock much higher. Most, if not all Z68 boards only go up to a 2133 strap, and bclk will only be stable to 104-106 max.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedy

what is that service when you can order to europe? so service orders to imaginary us address and then sends?

Not sure what you are trying to say here.

AsRock · Feb 7, 2012, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedy

what is that service when you can order to europe? so service orders to imaginary us address and then sends?

Maybe try Amazon.com if you having issue's getting your hands on some

EarthDog · Feb 7, 2012, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulieg

Nice. I'm running close to that now. I'm not sure how you are going to clock much higher. Most, if not all Z68 boards only go up to a 2133 strap, and bclk will only be stable to 104-106 max.

Not sure what you are trying to say here.

I think several high end boards have a 24x multi... I have to check at home but I think the Sniper 2 does, UD7, and possibly the GD65? BUT, I could be mistaking as I only use those multi for benching (see reasons above

), and none of those boards to bench.

manofthem · Feb 7, 2012, 08:10 PM

Asus P8P67 pro has option in the bios for 2400, but I haven't tried it yet.

tedy · Feb 7, 2012, 09:25 PM

like this

http://www.myus.com/en/landing/?aid=1000721

Random Murderer · Feb 7, 2012, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

It's interesting to see Samsung back in the game, last semi-decent ICs were HFC0, if i remember right.

It was HCF0. they were first-gen DDR3 chips that ran 1.9v-1.95v @ 2000

boomstik360 · Feb 7, 2012, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulieg

Nice. I'm running close to that now. I'm not sure how you are going to clock much higher. Most, if not all Z68 boards only go up to a 2133 strap, and bclk will only be stable to 104-106 max.

Not sure what you are trying to say here.

Mine goes 2400

Paulieg · Feb 8, 2012, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthDog

I think several high end boards have a 24x multi... I have to check at home but I think the Sniper 2 does, UD7, and possibly the GD65? BUT, I could be mistaking as I only use those multi for benching (see reasons above

), and none of those boards to bench.

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomstik360

Mine goes 2400

I've heard rumors that my board has the 2400 strap with a newer bios. I needed to update it anyways, so we will see. As of now, I don't have that option. I won't complain at 2133+ with 16GB, even if I can't go any higher.

I won't have any updates for a day or 2. I'm working on getting this 2600k back under water, and I have a new router to configure.

boomstik360 · Feb 9, 2012, 04:56 AM

Yeah I rarely get a chance to tinker at the moment. Working a lot and when I am home I want to crash and watch a movie. Maybe next week!

kenkickr · Feb 10, 2012, 01:56 AM

Now I can show how much of a noob I am when it comes to intel setups. I received my ram yesterday and tossed all 16gbs in. Played around with 1600 and went for it all by setting the memory multi to 21.33(ECS P67H2-A2) w/ timings 10-10-10-28. System boots up but I notice CPU-z 1.59 is showing 800 with FSB

RAM 1:6. Yet Intel Extreme Tuning tool says the proposed speed is 2133. Tried a load of prime, wprime, and OCCT to no avail. I can't see anything else besides auto detect, DIMM which I've tried disabling, that should cause this. Any help much appreciated.

boomstik360 · Feb 10, 2012, 02:01 AM

Hmmmm Honestly not sure. Take a pic of your bios settings.

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Feb 7, 2012, 01:33 PM	#126
EarthDog Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,051 (1.66/day) Thanks: 246 Thanked 349 Times in 303 Posts System Specs	Overclocking your memory usually yields VERY little performance gains. I would do it for space, but not for overclocking, unless you benchmark with Hwbot or something.

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EarthDog Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,051 (1.66/day) Thanks: 246 Thanked 349 Times in 303 Posts System Specs	This is correct. ^^ Regardless though, in most cases, it yields little to no performance gains..especially something tangible. You may get a frame or two, but unless you are getting 5, and now 7, you wont notice.

Feb 7, 2012, 02:06 PM	#130
EarthDog Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,051 (1.66/day) Thanks: 246 Thanked 349 Times in 303 Posts System Specs	On newer intel platforms too.

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cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,766 (4.15/day) Thanks: 4,473 Thanked 5,190 Times in 3,197 Posts System Specs	I'd like to see benchmarks with MultiGPU, exploring how much a role memory plays. I think i'll be joining this thread. I've not noticed anyone rally posting subtimings, what are we looking at here?

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EarthDog Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,051 (1.66/day) Thanks: 246 Thanked 349 Times in 303 Posts System Specs	"Butt dyno's" () are so subjective though. If you were put through a double blind test, I would bet good money says you couldnt tell the difference to the point of quantitating (is that a word?!!) the differences (meaning, Yeah, that window opened faster or...that app opened faster). Cad - I would love to see those results as well and if it changes. I know overclocking the CPU helps push the pixels in multi GPU configs, but not sure about memory. If I wasnt balls deep in reviews I would test that with 580's...

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cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,766 (4.15/day) Thanks: 4,473 Thanked 5,190 Times in 3,197 Posts System Specs	I know memory makes a difference in certain apps With MultiGPU. But whatever, would be nice to have a list of whta apps it matters with, and what apps do not care. Might be an interesting list. At least ya got work to do though, now stop posting and get'er done! Clearly, I gots time to post.

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Feb 10, 2012, 02:01 AM	#150
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