Intel Haswell In Bound for March-June 2013

btarunr · Feb 9, 2012, 01:12 PM

As Intel's tick-tock CPU development Juggernaut rolls on, things seem very much on track, looking into the near future. Intel will launch its new "Ivy Bridge" 3rd Generation Core processor family in early-April 2012, which is a miniaturization of what is essentially the "Sandy Bridge" to the new 22 nm process, with IPC and instruction-set improvements, along with a faster graphics controller. The new process will also up clock speeds and overclocking headroom for chips that support it. What's more interesting, though, is that the architecture that succeeds Ivy Bridge, codenamed "Haswell", will be less than an year away in April...well almost.

A roadmap slide sourced by DonanimHaber pins the launch of Haswell to March-June, 2013. Haswell is a brand new CPU architecture that will succeed Ivy Bridge. According to the conventional idea of Intel's tick-tock CPU development strategy, it will be built on the 22 nm fab process, which will have gained some maturity by then. Intel follows a "tick-tock" product development model. Every year, Intel's product lineup sees either of the two. A "tock" brings in a new x86 architecture, a "tick" miniaturizes it to a newer silicon fabrication process. Earlier reports indicated that Haswell Core processors will be based on a newer socket, the LGA1150, and hence it will not be compatible with LGA1155 platforms.

Source: DonanimHaber

hardcore_gamer · Feb 9, 2012, 01:36 PM

Edit:

I thought that 22nm delayed to 2013.
silly me.

badtaylorx · Feb 9, 2012, 01:41 PM

2013.....they're talking about the SUCCESSOR to IvyBridge

TinyRK · Feb 9, 2012, 01:55 PM

I just jumped on the Sandybridge-Bandwagon, so this way I don't have to feel like I have to upgrade to IB, and can wait for those babies... YAY me

FreedomEclipse · Feb 9, 2012, 01:58 PM

not compatible with LGA1155?? bah.... well, i get to run with my current beast for almost another 2 years I should be happy really.

I dont think I will drop in an ivy bridge unless its really a huge improvement over SB

ZoneDymo · Feb 9, 2012, 01:59 PM

2500 -> 3550
2500K -> 3570K?

Why not just make that the 3550K?

tigger · Feb 9, 2012, 02:08 PM

Wtf skt 1150, they always do this. More like a tick-hiccup

radrok · Feb 9, 2012, 02:17 PM

They say that not having to be limited to a certain pin configuration gives them more freedom in term of architecture arrangement so this could justify the new socket every new architecture.

tigger · Feb 9, 2012, 02:21 PM

I reckon its a backhand deal twixt Intel and the motherboard manufacturers, more money for both of them as people need to buy new boards.

Daimus · Feb 9, 2012, 02:40 PM

New mobo again... How is tired of pumping money out of consumers.

CBRworm · Feb 9, 2012, 02:47 PM

Except that people like me would upgrade the CPU if possible w/o replacing the other components. Not being able to do that forces me to run the entire combination longer and miss upgrade cycles (due at least in part to Windows upgrade headaches when core hardware changes). Of course I am not a good example, I am still dual booting Win7/XP and I use XP at least 75% of the time.

I expect there are a lot of people like me who would buy more processors if they could be dropped in to the current socket - with a BIOS upgrade of course.

theoneandonlymrk · Feb 9, 2012, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger

Wtf skt 1150, they always do this. More like a tick-hiccup

Hicup would imply a misstake was made, this is fully as planned, that's right intel have you bent over the desk each time and their chipsets earn too

entropy13 · Feb 9, 2012, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theoneandonlymrk

Hicup would imply a misstake was made, this is fully as planned, that's right intel have you bent over the desk each time and their chipsets earn too

And if it's a hiccup it would be unpredictable too. We wouldn't know when a new socket would arrive.

slyfox2151 · Feb 9, 2012, 03:08 PM

i have never bought a new cpu without buying a new motherboard, i see nothing wrong with this.

devguy · Feb 9, 2012, 03:18 PM

Surprised Ivy-Bridge E isn't anywhere on that roadmap. Thought it'd be out at least by Q1 2013.

Hustler · Feb 9, 2012, 03:22 PM

Damn, gonna have to wait for Haswell now, why did you have to tell me about this...at this rate i'll never replace my 2.4Ghz Pentium 4.

happita · Feb 9, 2012, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hustler

Damn, gonna have to wait for Haswell now, why did you have to tell me about this...at this rate i'll never replace my 2.4Ghz Pentium 4.

Holy crap. And here I was thinking I was conservative replacing my P4 2.4 with a C2D E8400 5 years later....then upgrading again to a 2500k...4 years later....
dam, your hardcore my friend

entropy13 · Feb 9, 2012, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hustler

Damn, gonna have to wait for Haswell now, why did you have to tell me about this...at this rate i'll never replace my 2.4Ghz Pentium 4.

I parted with my 3.2GHz Pentium 4 when I got the first i7s (specifically the 920).

Looks like Haswell would be next in line for me too.

ramcoza · Feb 9, 2012, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devguy

Surprised Ivy-Bridge E isn't anywhere on that roadmap. Thought it'd be out at least by Q1 2013.

Check out the Q2'12 on that chart.. There is a replacement coming to i7 3960X.. It can be an IB-E.. May be..

Hustler · Feb 9, 2012, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happita

Holy crap. And here I was thinking I was conservative replacing my P4 2.4 with a C2D E8400 5 years later....then upgrading again to a 2500k...4 years later....
dam, your hardcore my friend

Lolz, i think you missed the point of my post.

It was a pithy retort to the nature of the PC world in that you always seem to waiting for the 'next' hardware release.

For the record, i'm running a Quad Core Phenom II.

lilhasselhoffer · Feb 9, 2012, 05:15 PM

The 775 socket got to live as long as it did because Netburst sucked the south end of a north bound donkey.

1156, 1366, 1155, and 2011 aren't in the same position that 775 was. The subsequent architectures are all facing competition, so they aren't resting upon unproven and defective ideas. The fact that 1155 and 2011 are going to get a second generation is nice, but not something common with Intel. I would feel far angrier if I was one of the people who bought 1156 and 1366, given that they only had one generation of life.

All of this said, only slightly more than two years of a socket is pretty crappy. AMD might not have the highest of high end chips, but their socket replacement style is pretty good. This is, of course, overlooking the FM sockets....

dude12564 · Feb 9, 2012, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daimus

New mobo again... How is tired of pumping money out of consumers.

Intel's moving the VRM onto the CPU.

eidairaman1 · Feb 9, 2012, 11:19 PM

thumbs down on socket change.

btarunr · Feb 10, 2012, 04:39 AM

Everything that's there to know about Haswell at this point is here: http://www.techpowerup.com/154867/Al...-Haswell-.html

ViperXTR · Feb 10, 2012, 04:43 AM

Haswell TSX extensions

http://software.intel.com/en-us/blog...on-in-haswell/

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System Name:	TeraUltima 7 \| Ultima 7
Processor:	Intel Core i3 2100 3.1Ghz Dual Core HT \| AMD Athlon64 X2 5200+ @2.7Ghz
Motherboard:	ASRock Z68 Pro3-M mATX\| ASRock ALiveNF7G-720pHD 2.0 mATX
Cooling:	DeepCool Ice Berg Pro "Black Edition" \| Stock AMD AM2 Cooler
Memory:	G.Skill RipJaws 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz CL8 \| 2GB Kingston 667Mhz Ram
Video Card:	Palit GeForce GTX 660 OC 2GB \| GeForce 7050 PV IGP 128MB HM
Hard Disk:	1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATA3 AHCI\| 80GB Maxtor IDE
Optical Drive:	ASUS DVD MultiWriter SATA w/ LightScribe \| None
CRT/LCD Model:	LG Flatron L1753S 17" LCD Monitor \| 15" Generic CRT Monitor
Case:	Aerocool PGS VS-9 Mid Tower Casing \| ATX Mars 722-2 ATX Casing
Sound Card:	Onboard Realtek ALC892 7.1 HD Audio \| Onboard Realtek ALC662 5.1 HD Audio
PSU:	OCZ Stealth X Stream II 600W \| Generic 550W ATX PSU
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1 \| Windows 7 Home Premium
Benchmarks:	http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/ViperXtreme/pics/PRIPYAT.jpg