7970's constantly crashing

Aceman.au · Feb 12, 2012, 06:26 AM

When is the next bloody driver for the 7XXX series coming out? I've been having crashes galore since installing my 2 7970's. Would a different profile fix these crashes?

radrok · Feb 12, 2012, 07:29 AM

Which kind of crashes do you have? CTDs or BSOD?
And in which instance do they occur?

Aceman.au · Feb 12, 2012, 07:33 AM

Both. When playing any game. Window or Full screen

EDIT: Playing media on my second screen seems to make it happen quicker.

erocker · Feb 12, 2012, 07:38 AM

What drivers are you using?

Is this a new Windows install? Did you uninstall your old drivers before installing the drivers for the 7970's?

radrok · Feb 12, 2012, 07:38 AM

Now that's an headache to sort, is your system running fine with one card only?
I know that drivers are very immature but you shouldn't be having this kind of issues.
If it does the same thing with a GPU only I'd recommend a driver sweep and clean reinstall.

Aceman.au · Feb 12, 2012, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

What drivers are you using?

Is this a new Windows install? Did you uninstall your old drivers before installing the drivers for the 7970's?

Very old Windows install. First BSOD in a year (maybe even longer)

Quote:

Originally Posted by radrok

Now that's an headache to sort, is your system running fine with one card only?
I know that drivers are very immature but you shouldn't be having this kind of issues.
If it does the same thing with a GPU only I'd recommend a driver sweep and clean reinstall.

I driver sweeped before this install.

And its Catalyst v11.12

Driver packaging version: 8.921.2-120119a-132101E-ATI (which is the latest)

HD64G · Feb 12, 2012, 08:07 AM

Why don't you try installing another driver like this one?

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=358269

radrok · Feb 12, 2012, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aceman.au

Very old Windows install. First BSOD in a year (maybe even longer)

I driver sweeped before this install.

And its Catalyst v11.12

Driver packaging version: 8.921.2-120119a-132101E-ATI (which is the latest)

I think you should format, that's your best chance of solving, especially if you had an Nvidia GPU before.
I changed several GPUs without doing a clean windows install and no problem has ever appeared so you are probably being plain unlucky.

xenocide · Feb 12, 2012, 08:46 AM

Aren't there newer non-WHQL drivers that are better for the 7xxx series?

erocker · Feb 12, 2012, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenocide

Aren't there newer non-WHQL drivers that are better for the 7xxx series?

Nope, he's using the best drivers for 7970 right now. Very old Windows install likely means you will need to reformat.

Aceman.au · Feb 12, 2012, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Nope, he's using the best drivers for 7970 right now. Very old Windows install likely means you will need to reformat.

Man I can't be stuffed doing that, PC is the way I want it... Hopefully new drivers will fix it.

radrok · Feb 12, 2012, 09:31 AM

Keep the OS on a single drive and install everything on a secondary, every time I format I have everything back up and running in something like 5 minutes. Only 3Ds Max + Vray Plugin and Photoshop need to be reinstalled because I need to fetch the key from the boxes.

Horrux · Feb 12, 2012, 10:01 AM

Did you try with one monitor only?

Live OR Die · Feb 12, 2012, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD64G

Why don't you try installing another driver like this one?

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=358269

These dont support the 7xxx read before posting

, And yes the drivers out suck im also waiting for a new driver.

I did find these but i hear there buggy as well lol and they do support the 7xxx .

AMD Catalyst 12.3 RC (8.950.0 January 31)

the54thvoid · Feb 12, 2012, 11:37 AM

I know it's from mid Jan but Hard OCP aren't very happy with the 7 series crossfire drivers. They say AMD has dropped the ball on the driver front again.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/...ortunity_lost/

Aceman.au · Feb 12, 2012, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the54thvoid

They say AMD has dropped the ball on the driver front again.

Hey atleast my GFX cards PCB is blue! Really ties my PC together color wise!

Getting it right one thing @ a time!

Live OR Die · Feb 12, 2012, 11:57 AM

Give the driver i posted a go i've just installed it will run some tests soon.

Well they dont fix my problem with 120Hz I CANT WAIT FOR Kepler !

Aceman.au · Feb 12, 2012, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live OR Die

Give the driver i posted a go i've just installed it will run some tests soon.

Well they dont fix my problem with 120Hz I CANT WAIT FOR Kepler !
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/12/02/12/262.png

I was planning to go green this time, but I just couldn't be bothered waiting.

BlackOmega · Feb 12, 2012, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aceman.au

EDIT: Playing media on my second screen seems to make it happen quicker.

I have recent drivers crash on me as well when I had some video type media playing in the background while gaming. I noticed it when the video in the background switched from one to another, then all of the sudden the driver stopped responding, game crashed. When no videos are playing in the background I have no issues.

Live OR Die · Feb 12, 2012, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aceman.au

I was planning to go green this time, but I just couldn't be bothered waiting.

+1 that

but ill be selling off my 7970 for a nvidia card, i've been using for them years and never had the problems i get with this AMD card and i also buy new cards on release.

theoneandonlymrk · Feb 12, 2012, 01:51 PM

Imho you should have expected some initial issues as its e new gpu archetecture thats only just come out ,i too have been on the first day ship a few times with both nvidia and amd and would agree that usually on day 1 you have less issues with NV cards but they are not perfect either ,just saying it normally takes a few months/driver releases) to get em fully right from either team.

my 5870 didnt behave very well for a month or two, but neither did my 8800GT or my 3d prophet 2GTS(a dear card way back when) or any of em really, in fact even now i could prob make any system crash a game with a bit of effort(i mean just with wrong driver setting,morpho etc) ,just sayin

joeyck · Feb 12, 2012, 01:59 PM

shouldn't be bashing the 7 series as like most people said it is a new GPU, and tbh with you the smartest move would of been wait for keplar then drop 400+ dollars on a GPU. Drivers are drivers always gonna be a problem with em. Good luck!

Horrux · Feb 12, 2012, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live OR Die

+1 that

but ill be selling off my 7970 for a nvidia card, i've been using for them years and never had the problems i get with this AMD card and i also buy new cards on release.

I've had tons of problems with GTX 570s and had never had any before, when using AMD cards... Just having to uninstall and reinstall other drivers "for proper performance" all the time drives me nuts. When AMD's drivers work, they work all the time, for everything. In my experience.

Just goes to show, we all have different experiences. But I never buy hardware that's just been released.

radrok · Feb 12, 2012, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horrux

Just goes to show, we all have different experiences. But I never buy hardware that's just been released.

Especially when games market is stale and previous gen cards play them completely fine at any setting.

jmcslob · Feb 12, 2012, 10:41 PM

Check to see if you still have hardware ghosts (driver sweeper should have eliminated them) and if you do uninstall the software for the ghosted hardware and clean your registry..

Open CMD as Administrator
Type or Copy Pasta
SET DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1

Then start Device Manager by typing:
devmgmt.msc

Then in "View" click "Show Hidden Devices"
Click on the device tab and remove the "Ghosted" Hardware....It will be the gray translucent device

If the ghosted hardware is your old Nvidia hardware be sure to erase the software and if the ghosted hardware is your old AMD GFX profile simply remove the ghost without removing the software....

It's worth a shot anyways.

Feb 12, 2012, 06:26 AM	#1
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joeyck Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 714 (0.67/day) Thanks: 143 Thanked 55 Times in 52 Posts	shouldn't be bashing the 7 series as like most people said it is a new GPU, and tbh with you the smartest move would of been wait for keplar then drop 400+ dollars on a GPU. Drivers are drivers always gonna be a problem with em. Good luck! __________________ FS Thread Heat:JOEYCK

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