Fair Labour Association Calls Apple's Factories "First Class"

btarunr · Feb 17, 2012, 08:26 AM

Earlier this week, it was reported that Apple was conducting inspections of the manufacturing facilities of its foundry partners via independent agencies, to assess working conditions and well-being of workers. It requested the Fair Labour Association (FLA) to carry out the inspections. In addition to Foxconn, the FLA will inspect facilities of Quanta Computer Inc, Pegatron Corp, Wintek Corp and others. While the final report of its inspections will be released only by late next month, FLA revealed its first impressions of what it saw.

The FLA finds the working conditions in foundry partner Foxconn's facilities "above average". Auret van Heerden, president of the FLA commented on the Foxconn inspection: "The facilities are first-class; the physical conditions are way, way above average of the norm." He continued, "I was very surprised when I walked onto the floor at Foxconn, how tranquil it is compared with a garment factory," he said. "So the problems are not the intensity and burnout and pressure-cooker environment you have in a garment factory. It's more a function of monotony, of boredom, of alienation perhaps."

Mr. van Heerden went on to hypothesize the cause of worker suicides in China, which his organization has been studying since the 1990s. "You have lot of young people, coming from rural areas, away from families for the first time. They're taken from a rural into an industrial lifestyle, often quite an intense one, and that's quite a shock to these young workers. And we find that they often need some kind of emotional support, and they can't get it," he added. "Factories initially didn't realize those workers needed emotional support."

Source: Reuters, Image Courtesy: NewsBiscuit

FordGT90Concept · Feb 17, 2012, 08:33 AM

When average is dismal, "above average" really doesn't account for much improvement. Apple should be building highly automated assembly factories in the USA. It costs more up front but I bet it would be cheaper in the long run.

Sihastru · Feb 17, 2012, 08:41 AM

Well that was fast. I guess an "inspection" in China is conducted by phone or fax. 5 minutes is all it takes.

So much BS.

Completely Bonkers · Feb 17, 2012, 08:54 AM

Yes, I remember "inspections" in Hong Kong. The factory owners would take the visitors on the tour of the factory. The workers were informed on how to behave "or else". And when the owners took the visitor the long-way-round the factory, the workers quickly sneaked from one building to the next, to make the factory look busy and successful.

So easy to manage an inspection esp. by American FLA where they cannot speak to workers due to language barriers and can only naiively "look" at the factory and working conditions.

btarunr · Feb 17, 2012, 08:57 AM

Maybe FLA knows more, but I have to call BS on the theory of rural guy going to factories and getting shocked by the work there. I'm from India, and I'm sure a Chinese guy can correct me, but the mechanism of urbanization is similar between our two countries. Life in rural parts of our country is extremely difficult. Farm mechanization is low, and so there's lot of manual labour, and rural life in our two countries is nightmarish. Apart from working your ass out in the field, you have the slog it out in the village market to get the best prices for your produce, so you could make ends meet. In contrast, being pulled out of the farms and being put into a factory, especially an assembly line where you can sit, and where the factory gives you your lunch, is a dream. Hell, even a stereotypical textile sweatshop is much better than farm life.

So there must be factors other than intensity of labour behind worker suicides.

Frederik S · Feb 17, 2012, 09:15 AM

It is good compared to a garment factory... lol...

Corporate work environment green washing haha!

NC37 · Feb 17, 2012, 09:24 AM

Oh heres a good idea...inspectors give time and dates for their arrival so management can sweep problems under the rug. Yeah, really win there.

Just an Apple publicity stunt to wave the "everything is ok" sign.

Really if this was a serious inspection, they wouldn't have disclosed it. Just surprise, show up, catch them with their pants down. Then accept bribes to keep it quiet ;D.

DannibusX · Feb 17, 2012, 09:30 AM

Hans Blix must have been the inspector.

Frederik S · Feb 17, 2012, 09:44 AM

I bet Apple paid all the works to just "Smile and wave"!

acerace · Feb 17, 2012, 10:02 AM

Pics or it didn't happen.

FordGT90Concept · Feb 17, 2012, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC37

Oh heres a good idea...inspectors give time and dates for their arrival so management can sweep problems under the rug. Yeah, really win there.

Chinese government doesn't allow surprise inspections. All these corporations know what they're dealing with (won't admit it publically--see Nike and child labor) and frankly, they don't care so long as the products are completed and meet quality requirements. It is going to keep on happening until labor costs around the globe increase to the point where automation is undeniably cheaper.

xaira · Feb 17, 2012, 12:24 PM

hey remember some time ago when banks were hiring independent companies to rate securities...and that worked out so well...

pr0n Inspector · Feb 17, 2012, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

Maybe FLA knows more, but I have to call BS on the theory of rural guy going to factories and getting shocked by the work there. I'm from India, and I'm sure a Chinese guy can correct me, but the mechanism of urbanization is similar between our two countries. Life in rural parts of our country is extremely difficult. Farm mechanization is low, and so there's lot of manual labour, and rural life in our two countries is nightmarish. Apart from working your ass out in the field, you have the slog it out in the village market to get the best prices for your produce, so you could make ends meet. In contrast, being pulled out of the farms and being put into a factory, especially an assembly line where you can sit, and where the factory gives you your lunch, is a dream. Hell, even a stereotypical textile sweatshop is much better than farm life.

So there must be factors other than intensity of labour behind worker suicides.

You go to a Foxconn or similar factory and you work your asses off. You live, eat, work and poop all in their facilities. You have practically no social life. You have no one close to you to talk to. Then you realize that it's a dead-end job and think you're stuck in this forever or you got hooked up with some female co-worker then got dumped or something. With how superficial and hollow the modern Chinese culture is, it's not hard to see why someone would just kill himself.

But my speculation is pointless. The suicide rate at Foxconn is actually lower than national average. And, no one really cares. Everyone comes out and says "This is deplorable and inexcusable!" then go right back to living their unsustainable lifestyle. It's China right now and it will be Africa when most Chinese can enjoy the same unsustainable lifestyle.

Steevo · Feb 17, 2012, 01:09 PM

Here eat thos shiny apple mr and mrs inspector sir, it may be solid gold so watch your teeth, as we have no accidents here OK?

Thefumigator · Feb 17, 2012, 02:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz5Bw9ID1us

btarunr · Feb 17, 2012, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0n Inspector

You go to a Foxconn or similar factory and you work your asses off. You live, eat, work and poop all in their facilities. You have practically no social life. You have no one close to you to talk to. Then you realize that it's a dead-end job and think you're stuck in this forever or you got hooked up with some female co-worker then got dumped or something. With how superficial and hollow the modern Chinese culture is, it's not hard to see why someone would just kill himself.

But my speculation is pointless. The suicide rate at Foxconn is actually lower than national average. And, no one really cares. Everyone comes out and says "This is deplorable and inexcusable!" then go right back to living their unsustainable lifestyle. It's China right now and it will be Africa when most Chinese can enjoy the same unsustainable lifestyle.

I don't deny that Foxconn's facilities are bad, but I'm saying the backgrounds these workers come from (according to FSA, from rural China) are a LOT worse.

LDNL · Feb 17, 2012, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

I don't deny that Foxconn's facilities are bad, but I'm saying the backgrounds these workers come from (according to FSA, from rural China) are a LOT worse.

So that must mean farmer suicide rates have to a LOT more!

btarunr · Feb 17, 2012, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LDNL

So that must mean farmer suicide rates have to a LOT more!

Well, the worker suicide rates do seem to be below national average. Apple's PR gets the spotlight when a Foxconn worker "commits suicide", and not when a Chinese peasant does.

Batou1986 · Feb 17, 2012, 03:13 PM

First class ? LOL working conditions at your local Burger King must be off the charts then

ironwolf · Feb 17, 2012, 03:59 PM

When I was in the military, announced inspections were a total joke. Everything was cleaned up spic-'n-span and it turned into a dog-and-pony-show. It's the unannounced inspections that really matter, so you can see what's really going on.

FreedomEclipse · Feb 17, 2012, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DannibusX

Hans Blix must have been the inspector.

Probably...but the jokes on you as he is no longer exists. Unless the joke was that there was no inspection because hes dead and 8ft under.

TheLaughingMan · Feb 17, 2012, 11:29 PM

If it is so great. Why does she look so depressed?

15th Warlock · Feb 18, 2012, 01:06 AM

Completely off topic, I know, but has anyone else noticed the image used for this article is a photoshop? And not a good one either, look at the awkward way that worker is holding the iPad, and also notice how her thumb is touching one of the icons without starting that app, not to mention the fact that her thumb has an awfully different skin tone than the rest of her hand... Altough she could be using one of those funny finger latex covers, still the angle of her hands just looks wrong to be holding that iPad...

Just saying...

pr0n Inspector · Feb 18, 2012, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

I don't deny that Foxconn's facilities are bad, but I'm saying the backgrounds these workers come from (according to FSA, from rural China) are a LOT worse.

You are right that it's likely that farm work is much harder on the body. What I meant was that these people couldn't handle the lonely and repetive life in the foxconn city. What they should've realize is that the job they are doing shouldn't be permanent. Work your asses off, send money home, save enough money, learn a trade or something and move on.

MT Alex · Feb 18, 2012, 01:59 AM

Well, we'll have to wait and see what The Fair Labor Association has to say about the factories, then. Perhaps more scrutiny will come when leaving out the U.

Feb 17, 2012, 08:26 AM	#1
btarunr Editor & Senior Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 14,982 (7.30/day) Thanks: 788 Thanked 12,899 Times in 5,650 Posts System Specs	Fair Labour Association Calls Apple's Factories "First Class" Earlier this week, it was reported that Apple was conducting inspections of the manufacturing facilities of its foundry partners via independent agencies, to assess working conditions and well-being of workers. It requested the Fair Labour Association (FLA) to carry out the inspections. In addition to Foxconn, the FLA will inspect facilities of Quanta Computer Inc, Pegatron Corp, Wintek Corp and others. While the final report of its inspections will be released only by late next month, FLA revealed its first impressions of what it saw. The FLA finds the working conditions in foundry partner Foxconn's facilities "above average". Auret van Heerden, president of the FLA commented on the Foxconn inspection: "The facilities are first-class; the physical conditions are way, way above average of the norm." He continued, "I was very surprised when I walked onto the floor at Foxconn, how tranquil it is compared with a garment factory," he said. "So the problems are not the intensity and burnout and pressure-cooker environment you have in a garment factory. It's more a function of monotony, of boredom, of alienation perhaps." Mr. van Heerden went on to hypothesize the cause of worker suicides in China, which his organization has been studying since the 1990s. "You have lot of young people, coming from rural areas, away from families for the first time. They're taken from a rural into an industrial lifestyle, often quite an intense one, and that's quite a shock to these young workers. And we find that they often need some kind of emotional support, and they can't get it," he added. "Factories initially didn't realize those workers needed emotional support." Source: Reuters, Image Courtesy: NewsBiscuit Last edited by W1zzard; Feb 17, 2012 at 08:41 AM.

System Name:	Blackbox
Processor:	Intel Core i7-950
Motherboard:	Intel Extreme Series DX58OG
Cooling:	Xigmatek Aegir SD128264 with IC Diamond 24 Thermal Compound
Memory:	12GB ADATA Premier (3x 4GB) DDR3-1333 MHz
Video Card:	Palit GeForce GTX 680 JetStream 2GB outfitted with IC Diamond 24 TIM
Hard Disk:	Samsung 840 Series 250GB, Random 8 TB storage
Optical Drive:	HT-LG DVD-RW
CRT/LCD Model:	ViewSonic VX2450wm-LED
Case:	Cooler Master CM690 Window
Sound Card:	Creative SB Recon3D
PSU:	Corsair HX850W
Software:	Windows 8 Pro 64-bit

Feb 17, 2012, 08:33 AM	#2
FordGT90Concept "I go fast!1!11!1!" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: IA, USA Posts: 10,575 (6.29/day) Thanks: 1,755 Thanked 2,596 Times in 1,960 Posts System Specs	When average is dismal, "above average" really doesn't account for much improvement. Apple should be building highly automated assembly factories in the USA. It costs more up front but I bet it would be cheaper in the long run. __________________ Golden Rule of Programming: Never assume. try { SteamDownload(); } catch (Steamception ex) { RageQuit(); }

System Name:	BY-2009
Processor:	Intel Core i7 920 (4 x 2.66 GHz) w/ HT and Turbo on
Motherboard:	DFI LP DK X58
Cooling:	Sythe MUGEN-2 w/ Stock Fan
Memory:	3 x 2 GiB OCZ Gold DDR3-1600 @ DDR-1066
Video Card:	Sapphire Vapor-X HD 5870 1 GiB
Hard Disk:	2 x Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200.7 RAID0
Optical Drive:	Samsung 16x DVD-ROM, Pioneer 16x DVD+/-RW
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung Syncmaster T240 24" LCD (1920x1200)
Case:	Coolermaster HAF 932
Sound Card:	Realtek Onboard, HT OMEGA Striker 7.1
PSU:	Enermax Liberty 620w
Software:	Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Benchmarks:	Faster than the tortoise; slower than the hare.

Feb 17, 2012, 08:41 AM	#3
Sihastru Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: You are here. Posts: 318 (0.21/day) Thanks: 80 Thanked 62 Times in 44 Posts System Specs	Well that was fast. I guess an "inspection" in China is conducted by phone or fax. 5 minutes is all it takes. So much BS. __________________ There are more things in heaven and earth then are dreamt of in your philosophy.

System Name:	Prometheus
Processor:	Intel i7 3820
Motherboard:	Asus P9X79
Cooling:	Corsair H80
Memory:	Kingston HyperX T1 Black Edition 32GB
Video Card:	2 x Asus GTX 680 SLI
Hard Disk:	2 x Intel 330 240GB RAID0 + 2 x WD 1TB Green RAID1
Optical Drive:	Sony/Optiarc DVDRW
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell 3007WFP-HC2
Case:	Silverstone Fortress FT02B USB 3.0
Sound Card:	Asus Xonar DX
PSU:	Corsair AX850
Software:	Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64

Feb 17, 2012, 08:54 AM	#4
Completely Bonkers Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,415 (1.05/day) Thanks: 582 Thanked 533 Times in 374 Posts System Specs	Yes, I remember "inspections" in Hong Kong. The factory owners would take the visitors on the tour of the factory. The workers were informed on how to behave "or else". And when the owners took the visitor the long-way-round the factory, the workers quickly sneaked from one building to the next, to make the factory look busy and successful. So easy to manage an inspection esp. by American FLA where they cannot speak to workers due to language barriers and can only naiively "look" at the factory and working conditions. __________________ ... some things in life just drive you bonkers. Especially the rubbish you see in forum posts

Processor:	Mysterious Engineering Prototype
Motherboard:	Intel 865
Cooling:	Custom block made in workshop
Memory:	Corsair XMS 2GB
Video Card:	FireGL X3-256
CRT/LCD Model:	1600x1200 SyncMaster x 2 = 3200x1200
Software:	Windows 2003

Feb 17, 2012, 08:57 AM	#5
btarunr Editor & Senior Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 14,982 (7.30/day) Thanks: 788 Thanked 12,899 Times in 5,650 Posts System Specs	Maybe FLA knows more, but I have to call BS on the theory of rural guy going to factories and getting shocked by the work there. I'm from India, and I'm sure a Chinese guy can correct me, but the mechanism of urbanization is similar between our two countries. Life in rural parts of our country is extremely difficult. Farm mechanization is low, and so there's lot of manual labour, and rural life in our two countries is nightmarish. Apart from working your ass out in the field, you have the slog it out in the village market to get the best prices for your produce, so you could make ends meet. In contrast, being pulled out of the farms and being put into a factory, especially an assembly line where you can sit, and where the factory gives you your lunch, is a dream. Hell, even a stereotypical textile sweatshop is much better than farm life. So there must be factors other than intensity of labour behind worker suicides. __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp

Feb 17, 2012, 09:15 AM	#6
Frederik S Staff Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Søllerød, Denmark Posts: 1,033 (0.40/day) Thanks: 44 Thanked 297 Times in 204 Posts System Specs	It is good compared to a garment factory... lol... Corporate work environment green washing haha!

Processor:	C2D E8200 @ 3.4
Motherboard:	Gigabyte P35C-DS3R
Cooling:	3DMercury
Memory:	Corsair 4-4-4-12 4 GB DDR-1066
Video Card:	Inno3D 8800GTS 320MB @ 648 Mhz Core / 1000 MHz RAM
Hard Disk:	WD Raptor 2 x 150GB RAID 0, Hitachi Deskstar 400 GB
Optical Drive:	Pioneer DVD-RW
CRT/LCD Model:	HP LP2475w
Case:	Gigabyte 3DMercury
Sound Card:	On-board, Travagan's Green, Octavart "The One" AMP & DAC
PSU:	480 Watt Tagan
Software:	WinXP Pro SP2

Feb 17, 2012, 09:24 AM	#7
NC37 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The armpit of California Posts: 1,060 (0.64/day) Thanks: 156 Thanked 237 Times in 141 Posts System Specs	Oh heres a good idea...inspectors give time and dates for their arrival so management can sweep problems under the rug. Yeah, really win there. Just an Apple publicity stunt to wave the "everything is ok" sign. Really if this was a serious inspection, they wouldn't have disclosed it. Just surprise, show up, catch them with their pants down. Then accept bribes to keep it quiet ;D. __________________ "We tried to help Intel, but they don’t listen much. We’ve been telling them for years that their graphics suck…" -Steve Jobs

System Name:	Lailalo / Edelweiss
Processor:	FX 8320 @ 4.5Ghz / i7 3610QM @2.3-3.2Ghz
Motherboard:	ASrock 990FX Extreme 4 / Lenovo Y580
Cooling:	Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus / Big hunk of copper
Memory:	16GB Samsung 30nm DDR3 1600+ / 8GB Hyundai DDR3 1600
Video Card:	(2x) Gigabyte GTX460 1GB (816,1000,1632) / GTX 660M 2GB
Hard Disk:	Seagate 1TB/250GB/80GB + 500GB WD Passport + OCZ Synapse 64GB SSD Cache / Seagate Momentus 500GB
Optical Drive:	16x DVD Internal + Samsung External BD Combo / BD-Combo drive
CRT/LCD Model:	Viewsonic 20.1 @ 1680x1050 / Lenovo 15.6 @ 1920x1080
Case:	Coolermaster Storm Sniper / Lenovo Y580
Sound Card:	Asus Xonar DG / Whatever Lenovo used
PSU:	Antec Truepower Blue 750W / Big Power Brick
Software:	Windows 7 Pro / Windows 7 Home Premium
Benchmarks:	Cinebench 11.5: CPU @ 7.72 GL @ 56.52

Feb 17, 2012, 09:30 AM	#8
DannibusX Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: United States Posts: 2,039 (1.48/day) Thanks: 784 Thanked 945 Times in 626 Posts System Specs	Hans Blix must have been the inspector. __________________ “Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s**t about the rules? Mark it zero!” -Walter Sobchak “Yup, you were 9-2 when you slid it in me.” -MT Alex

System Name:	Aluminum Mallard
Processor:	Intel i7 940
Motherboard:	ASUS Rampage III: Gene
Cooling:	Noctua C-12P
Memory:	6GB Corsair Dominator DDR3
Video Card:	ASUS HD5870
Hard Disk:	OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD, 2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 in RAID0
Optical Drive:	DVD Burner, nothing to write home about.
CRT/LCD Model:	HP w2338h
Case:	Corsair 700D
Sound Card:	On Board
PSU:	Corsair TX850
Software:	Win7 Ult 64 bit
Benchmarks:	31 FPS in Dalaran.

Feb 17, 2012, 09:44 AM	#9
Frederik S Staff Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Søllerød, Denmark Posts: 1,033 (0.40/day) Thanks: 44 Thanked 297 Times in 204 Posts System Specs	I bet Apple paid all the works to just "Smile and wave"!

Feb 17, 2012, 10:02 AM	#10
acerace Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Malaysia Posts: 204 (0.33/day) Thanks: 147 Thanked 44 Times in 32 Posts System Specs	Pics or it didn't happen. __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

Processor:	Intel Core i3-2100 @ 3.1 GHz
Motherboard:	Asus P8H61-M LX (B3)
Cooling:	Intel stock HSF
Memory:	2x 4GB Kingston DDR3 @ 1333 MHz
Video Card:	Gigabyte Radeon HD 6750 OC
Hard Disk:	Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3
Optical Drive:	Samsung SH-222BB SATA
CRT/LCD Model:	HP W2072a 20"
Case:	Cooler Master Elite 430 Black
Sound Card:	Integrated (Realtek ALC887)
PSU:	Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W
Software:	Windows 7 Home Premium x64

Feb 17, 2012, 12:24 PM	#12
xaira Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 198 (0.14/day) Thanks: 71 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts System Specs	hey remember some time ago when banks were hiring independent companies to rate securities...and that worked out so well...

System Name:	A55amemNoN
Processor:	Intel Celeron G540
Motherboard:	Asrock H61M-VS
Memory:	Kingston 8GB DDR3 10700
Video Card:	Galaxy GT640
Hard Disk:	160GB Samsung 5400RPM
CRT/LCD Model:	LG 32" 720p LCD TV

System Name:	sans nom
Processor:	AMD 1090T, EK Supreme hf
Motherboard:	MSI 890GXM-G65
Cooling:	Feser X-480, MCR220-QP, MCP655, Ek D5 TOP
Memory:	2 x G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 570, Ek GTX 580 FC block
Hard Disk:	X25M 80GB 34nm, WDC WD20EARS, WD15EADS, WD6401AALS
Optical Drive:	Pioneer DVR-216D
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer P191w, Philips 240PW9EB, ColorMunki Photo
Case:	SST-TJ07B-W
Sound Card:	Asus Essence ST
PSU:	Corsair TX750

Feb 17, 2012, 01:09 PM	#14
Steevo Eligible for custom title Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,567 (2.02/day) Thanks: 238 Thanked 979 Times in 729 Posts System Specs	Here eat thos shiny apple mr and mrs inspector sir, it may be solid gold so watch your teeth, as we have no accidents here OK? __________________ “it would have been perfect....its got trains and the line"tech your kids not to do what iv done"(or similar) because i had obviously done something to warrent 2 e-thugs to come 4000miles out of their way and kill me.” -Solaris17 “yeah i failed. i noticed the "coming soon" part after i posted.” -Mussels “people are just stupid.” -W1zzard Yes I am evil, yes you can have some.

System Name:	MoFo
Processor:	AMD PhenomII 1100T @ 3.7Ghz/4.1Ghz Turbo
Motherboard:	Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe 2202 BIOS
Cooling:	Swiftec 655 pump, Apogee GT, MCW60-R GPU, MCR360mm Rad, 1/2 loop.
Memory:	G-Skill 1200Mhz 5.5.5.15 2T
Video Card:	HD5870 1Gb HIS custom BIOS watercooled & VRM-R4
Hard Disk:	2 Agility 3 SSD RAID 0 on highpoint 640, 2 3TB RAID 0, 1 2TB and one failing 750Gb
Optical Drive:	Lite-On DL DVD
CRT/LCD Model:	Asus 1920X1200 60Hz 25.5" LCD, 46" 1080P Toshiba LCD
Case:	Rosewill R6A34-BK modded (thanks to MKmods)
Sound Card:	On Board
PSU:	750W PC Power & Cooling modded (thanks to MKmods)
Software:	Vista X64 Ultimate/Win 7 Ultimate
Benchmarks:	780 MBps read on HDD's 1052 core on 5870.

Feb 17, 2012, 02:03 PM	#15
Thefumigator Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 344 (0.19/day) Thanks: 18 Thanked 45 Times in 27 Posts	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz5Bw9ID1us

System Name:	Alpha
Processor:	Phenom 9550
Motherboard:	ECS GF8200A
Cooling:	Stock
Memory:	2x2GB DDR2 800 Kingston
Video Card:	Geforce 8200 IGP
Hard Disk:	3 x Samsung Spinpoint F1 (RAID 0)
Optical Drive:	LG GSA-4082B; Samsung TSSCorp SH-S182M; Lite ON ihas120
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung 932NWE Plus
Case:	Generic
Sound Card:	Emu 0404 PCI
PSU:	Sharkoon SHA450-8P
Software:	Windows Vista
Benchmarks:	Phenom 9550@2.7Ghz

System Name:	MiLord
Processor:	Core i5 760 4Ghz 1.35v
Motherboard:	Gigabyte H55N-USB3
Cooling:	Antec Kuhler 620 /w 2x SilentX fans
Memory:	G.Skill 2x4GB 1333mhz
Video Card:	Palit Nvidia GTX 660 Ti +180 core/+600 memory
Hard Disk:	OCZ Vertex 2 50GB, Kingston V100 256GB
Case:	None... everythings on a cardboard box testbench
PSU:	XFX 450W Pro

Feb 17, 2012, 03:13 PM	#19
Batou1986 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 1,937 (0.69/day) Thanks: 123 Thanked 282 Times in 236 Posts System Specs	First class ? LOL working conditions at your local Burger King must be off the charts then

Processor:	FX-4100 4.2Ghz
Motherboard:	Gigabyte 970A-UD3
Cooling:	Xigmatek S1283, 75cfm Scythe S-Flex's
Memory:	2x4Gb Corsair 1600 9-9-9-24
Video Card:	Crossfire XFX HD6870
Hard Disk:	OCZ Vertex 3 120G, 150Gb VRaptor, 1TB WD Green
Optical Drive:	For What ?
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell S2330MX
Case:	Antec P182 Boltgun Metal
Sound Card:	X-Fi Fatal1ty / 5.1 Logitech Z-5500
PSU:	Silverstone DA750
Software:	Win7 x64 Pro

Feb 17, 2012, 03:59 PM	#20
ironwolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Pensacola, FL, USA, Earth Posts: 214 (0.28/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 26 Times in 18 Posts	When I was in the military, announced inspections were a total joke. Everything was cleaned up spic-'n-span and it turned into a dog-and-pony-show. It's the unannounced inspections that really matter, so you can see what's really going on.

System Name:	Codename: Rapture X {MoonPig Edition}
Processor:	Intel 3930k@4.6Ghz
Motherboard:	Asus P9X79 PRO
Cooling:	Corsair H80i {2xScythe G.T AP-15}
Memory:	16GB DDR3 Kingston Hyper X 2133Mhz {4x4GB}
Video Card:	2xMSI GTX680 Twin Frozr OC {SLi}
Hard Disk:	256GB Plextor M5 Pro Xtreme (Boot) \|WD: 2x1.5TB FAEX\|1x2TB EARS\|1x1.5TB Samsung F4EG
Optical Drive:	N/A
CRT/LCD Model:	NEC MultiSync EA231WMi 23" {Black}
Case:	Fractal Define XL {3x140mm,1x180mm Silverstone A.P'}
Sound Card:	Creative SB Z {Speakers: Logitech Z-5500 }
PSU:	Corsair HX1050 Bro'fessional
Software:	Windows 7 7600 x64
Benchmarks:	(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Feb 17, 2012, 11:29 PM	#22
TheLaughingMan Join Date: May 2009 Location: Douglasville, GA USA Posts: 3,700 (2.51/day) Thanks: 1,365 Thanked 1,264 Times in 930 Posts System Specs	If it is so great. Why does she look so depressed? __________________ My Heat

System Name:	ZEUS
Processor:	AMD FX-8350 @ 4.2 GHz
Motherboard:	GIGABYTE 990FX-UD7
Cooling:	Gelid GX-7 w / 2 Cougar 120mm PWN fans
Memory:	Patriot 8GB (2x4GB) @ 1866 MHz 9-10-9-27
Video Card:	2x AMD HD 7770 GHz Edition (1125 MHz, 5800 MHz effective)
Hard Disk:	OCZ Agility 4 512 GB :: WD Caviar Black 2TB
Optical Drive:	LG Blu-ray Drive
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer X233H 23.6" Widescreen 5ms LCD Monitor
Case:	Rosewill Thor V2
Sound Card:	Onboard Realtek 889c + Logitech X-540 5.1
PSU:	Antec HCP 850 80+ Gold
Software:	Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
Benchmarks:	I don't benchmark.

Feb 18, 2012, 01:06 AM	#23
15th Warlock Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California, U.S.A. Posts: 1,993 (0.62/day) Thanks: 552 Thanked 511 Times in 216 Posts System Specs	Completely off topic, I know, but has anyone else noticed the image used for this article is a photoshop? And not a good one either, look at the awkward way that worker is holding the iPad, and also notice how her thumb is touching one of the icons without starting that app, not to mention the fact that her thumb has an awfully different skin tone than the rest of her hand... Altough she could be using one of those funny finger latex covers, still the angle of her hands just looks wrong to be holding that iPad... Just saying... __________________ Main Rig: See System Specs HTPC Game room: Ci7 SB 2600K@4.5Ghz - Asus ROG Maximus IV Gene-Z - EVGA 2xGTX680s SLI - 4x4GBs GSkill Ripjaws - 2x120GBs Vertex 3MIOPS - OCZ 1.25 kW PSU HTPC Bedroom: C2Q Q9550@3.4Ghz - Asus ROG Striker II - EVGA 2xGTX680s SLI - 2x4GBs Kingston HyperX - 2x120GBs Agility 3 - SB Recon3D - Silverstone 1 kW PSU Lappy: Samsung Series 7 NP700G7C - Ci7 IVB 3610QM@2.3~3.3Ghz - 17.3" 1920x1080 120 Hz - GeForce GTX675M - 16GBs 1600Mhz RAM - 512GBs Crucial M4 - 6X BluRay

System Name:	Project Crimson Titan
Processor:	SB-E Core i7 3930K 4.5Ghz@1.31V Vcore
Motherboard:	Asus ROG Rampage IV Extreme
Cooling:	CPU: Corsair H100 push and pull, RAM: 2xCorsair Airflow, VGA: EK full coverage WBs
Memory:	4x4GBs Corsair Vengeance XMP 1866MHz @ 1.5V
Video Card:	2x EVGA GTX Titan SC in SLI
Hard Disk:	OS: 2x128GBs OCZ Vertex 4 RAID 0/Games: 2x1.5TBs WDC Black RAID 0
Optical Drive:	Lite-On 12X Blu-ray Burner
CRT/LCD Model:	3x27" Acer 120Hz 3D HN274 LED LCDs @ 5760x1080 - Nvidia 3D Vision Surround
Case:	Cooler Master HAF X - Zalman MCF2 Fan Controller
Sound Card:	SB X-Fi Fatal1ty Pro on Logitech THX Z-5500 5.1/Razer Tiamat 7.1 Headset
PSU:	Silvestone ST1500 1.5 kW
Software:	Windows 8 Pro 64bit

Feb 18, 2012, 01:59 AM	#25
MT Alex Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montana Posts: 2,019 (1.45/day) Thanks: 2,540 Thanked 1,323 Times in 917 Posts System Specs	Well, we'll have to wait and see what The Fair Labor Association has to say about the factories, then. Perhaps more scrutiny will come when leaving out the U. __________________ “growing up, i always wanted to be a vet. til i learned there was more to being a vet than just putting down cats all day.” -digibucc My 700D