Green Tea: retro AMD-nVidia build

[TRWOV]

I won't deny it: I've always been an ATintel guy. But I've always being curious about the "green side". I've used AMD CPUs and nVidia GPUs in laptops and they seem to work well but I never considered their products for desktops.

That's about to change now... but with a retro-spin.

Outside of the CPU, board and GPU, I'll use cheap, easily replaceable components since this'll be my first time modding a case, sleeving cables, etc. The component selection is also limited to what my local PC vendor of choice stocks.

I didn't intent to begin this project so soon but I found an Asrock 939A8X-M board for sale last week and jumped the gun on it. While it gets here I thought I could start to mod the case.


Targeted specs:


AMD Athlon FX60 socket 939


Geforce 7950GT 512MB GDDR3 AGP


Asrock 939A8X-M


4GB OCZ PC4000 Enhanced Bandwith Platinum Edition


CM Hyper TX3


Elite Power 460. I know it's a POS but should be enough.


K-MEX CM-3E22 mATX case


Evercool Evergreen fans everywhere

Inside the case:


Planned mods:
- Change the orientation of the PSU 180º so that it draws cold air from the top. Not done since the PSU fan isn't centered.
- Switch the PSU fan for an Evergreen. Sleeve cables. Done.
- top 120mm blower. Done.
- 120mm intakes at the bottom and front. Changed to 90mm intakes. Done.
- Add a window. Done.
- Fan controller in the top bay? shouldn't interfere with the blower. Done.
- Green LED strips on the bottom with on/off switch. Done with no switch.



The finalized build:

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Benchmarks:


Intel Burn Test

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Cinebench

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The OpenGL accuracy test fails (???) so it doesn't give a score:

3dmark 2003

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3dmark 2005

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3dmark 2006

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Street Fighter 4

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Devil May Cry 4

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RE5 Game test

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RE5 Fixed Test

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Lost Planet 2 test A

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Lost Planet 2 test B

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The Last Remant

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Final Fantasy XIV

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PCmark2002

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PCmark05

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Monster Hunter Frontier

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Unigine Tropics

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Unigine Sanctuary

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Unigine Heaven

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[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Going to be a nice built there. That fx60 is going be a hard one to cough up though. I hope you can find one rather cheap as there going for around $200 on ebay right now. Can't wait to see the final build.

[TRWOV]

yeah, I'm hoping that too. In the mean time I'll use a 3000+

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

If shipping wouldn't cost too much I may have some parts for your build you maybe interested in.

[DigitalUK]

i was thinking of putting one of my old systems back together either my x1950 agp or dig out my ibm aptiva and voodoo 2000.
good luck with the fx60 i would go with the 3000 nobody could afford the fx60 back then anyway, they retailed for about £600 back then.

[majestic12]

Athlon 4800x2 could probably be found for a much lower price than an FX60

[nt300]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

yeah, I'm hoping that too. In the mean time I'll use a 3000+

Here you go - Buy it now is selling the AMD FX-60 @ 2.60 GHz Socket 939 between $175 to $250+.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...All-Categories

[Wrigleyvillain]

Been a lot of these retro builds lately it seems. Note I am not complaining.

(Cross-Thread Comment: Ah and see that Trickson there is an example of some OCZ RAM from when it truly kicked ass...)

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

I am still running 2 939 systems so I know your pain on finding a "cheap" fx60.

[TRWOV]

I don't get why is that. I mean, there are quad cores that go for that amount. I get it's an FX and all that but performance wise it should be $70. tops. The 4800+ goes for about that and is my plan B but I'd really like to own an FX60. Time will tell.

Originally Posted by ThE_MaD_ShOt

If shipping wouldn't cost too much I may have some parts for your build you maybe interested in.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

[t_ski]

Mostly because it's the best S939 CPU you can get

[Batou1986]

Originally Posted by t_ski

Mostly because it's the best S939 CPU you can get

The Denmark based Opteron 1xx series is just as good and clock to FX speeds with ease.
I need to fire mine back up and tweak on it some more bet I can get to 3.0 and fix the HT speed

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

I don't get why is that. I mean, there are quad cores that go for that amount. I get it's an FX and all that but performance wise it should be $70. tops. The 4800+ goes for about that and is my plan B but I'd really like to own an FX60. Time will tell.
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

I know what you mean. I don't get it either why that proc is still so expensive. I get that it was the "best" 939 proc and all. But hell there can't be that much demand for it. You can by a x6 for cheaper.

[Super XP]

Doing a retro build is plain fun IMO, though I wouldn't fork over more than $100 if that for any old CPU.

[TRWOV]

Originally Posted by ThE_MaD_ShOt

I know what you mean. I don't get it either why that proc is still so expensive. I get that it was the "best" 939 proc and all. But hell there can't be that much demand for it. You can by a x6 for cheaper.

There's also the Opteron 185 but then I couldn't use the Athlon 64 FX sticker I bought.

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

This build when finished will have life left in it. As I stated I am running 2 of them. Now our win 98 builds. Hmm they are just because we are bored and love to be punished.

Originally Posted by TRWOV

There's also the Opteron 185 but then I couldn't use the Athlon 64 FX sticker I bought.

Sure you can. Just clock it at Fx speeds and call it a Fx hybrid.

[TRWOV]

Yeah, I could think of some not too old games that still call fot A64 X2s as a minimum requirement. I reckon that Mass Effect requires a 3800+.

[t_ski]

It's just price gouging since it's old hardware. Someone has an old rig that they want to breathe new life into, and they look & find out this is the best chip they can get (most aren't smart enough to figure out the Opterons, and this one is unlocked). And supply is low...

[TRWOV]

I get that, what I cannot understand is people bidding over $100 for it. I would expect auctions to end about there.

Well, maybe some guy will post a BIN for $80 or something, I can always hope. If not there's the 4800+

[martthefart]

amd 64 x2 ad05000iaa5d0 got 1 of these3 any good? with stock cooler

[TRWOV]

Those are AM2. Sorry, cant use them.

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Price will eventually go down on them. How long it takes is anyone's guess. Hell go with a Opteron or a 4800+ and tell em to shove there high price on the FX 60.

[TRWOV]

K-MEX CM-xx22 mini review

The case for the build will be a K-MEX CM-3E22 mATX case. K-MEX proudly announces on the box that it comes with HD Audio plug, a 24 pin 400w ATX PSU with 2 SATA power connectors and a "shiny panel" (when did that become a bullet point in case design?)



The case comes protected with polystyrene foam on the top and bottom along with a clear plastic bag. Pretty standard stuff.



The case is as small as they get, measuring 35x36x17 cms. The left side sports a big vent while the other side is plain. The panels are interchangeable.




The front panel is shiny indeed (good thing the box didn't lie to us, that's how brand loyalty develops) and comes with the standard I/O options of mic, headphones and 2 USB 2.0 ports in addition to the three exposed bays.



The back has a space for an 80 or 92mm fan, 4 expansion slots with punched slot covers (one already removed) and slots for a parallel and a serial port along with a DC socket mounting hole. The left panel is secured with thumbscrews and the right panel with regular hex screws.




The top panel is plain except for two indentations on the front an back.



The bottom has molded case feet and some curious holes apparently for not reason (or so I thought).



After removing the side panel I discovered that K-MEX actually took the time to secure the PSU cable and the bag of accessories with masking tape and the cables with ties. Not the best work in that regard but I've seen pricier cases that look like a party aftermath when you remove the side panel so this is a plus in my book.



And now we discover the purpose of the holes in the bottom of the case. Turns out that the case has no hard drive cage but two mounting spaces on the side and bottom of the case instead.



The accessories include an spare slot cover, assortment of screws, a buzzer, 4 rubber bases for the feet and the PSU cable.



The motherboard tray has numerous cutouts and holes so there's potential for cable management although there's not a lot of clearance but if it's just cables 8mm ought to be enough.




The interior is basically a big box ripe for some modding.




The case is pretty good really, considering the price ($30). The only thing I don't really like is the front panel but as the song says, you do with what you've got.

[TRWOV]

It seems that I'll get the board in the next few days and I already have a 3000+ stand-by to test it. Once I take some measurements with the board installed I'll begin the modding.

BTW, I got a second hand Dremel rotary tool for this task. What would be a good cutting disc for 0.5mm SECC panels?

[InnocentCriminal]

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