Windows 8 Has a Killswitch

[btarunr]

Microsoft's Windows 8 is reported to come with a "killswitch", which can by flipped by Microsoft to delete malware downloaded from its App Store by unsuspecting customers. Last year, Google's Android Marketplace was swarmed by malware disguised as popular applications from various other publishers. These applications were bought and downloaded by unsuspecting users. When word reached Google, it flipped a killswitch with Android that instantly removed these bogus applications across thousands of devices. It's not just Google, Apple too has a similar killswitch with which it keeps its App Store users safe from malware.

News of killswitches with Windows (in-turn the PC platform), isn't going in too well with advocates of privacy and free-speech, who fear that Microsoft's planted killswitch gives it unwarranted power to remotely erase applications and user data (connected to these applications), without the consent of the user. It could then be used as a potential censorship tool, or even an anti-competition tool, by synthetically-engineering market-shares of software used by people.

Sources: Businessweek, VigilantCitizen

[LAN_deRf_HA]

Has either google or apple used this kill switch to remove anything other than malware?

[v12dock]

Sounds like a service that will be receiving many many patches

[Liquid Cool]

Btarunr...Your citing Vigilant Citizen as a source?



I like that site.

Best,

Liquid Cool

[pr0n Inspector]

Originally Posted by btarunr

It could then be used as a potential censorship tool, or even an anti-competition tool, by synthetically-engineering market-shares of software used by people.

Sources: Businessweek, VigilantCitizen

Except all app stores are walled gardens of varying degrees to begin with.

[Frick]

Originally Posted by pr0n Inspector

Except all app stores are walled gardens of varying degrees to begin with.

Yes, that is kinda the whole point with them. I'm not very worried about this.

[qwerty_lesh]

Originally Posted by Frick

Yes, that is kinda the whole point with them. I'm not very worried about this.

same. Could it be abused sure, I like to live in a fantasy world though where everythings ideal and it will only be used for its intended purpose, ignorance is bliss i say!

[keling]

"...advocates of privacy and free-speech..."

At times I agree with these people but at times I wonder whether the things that they are protesting against are logical or beneficial for all.

Microsoft and Intel several years ago planned to put some sort of control chips in mobos so that Windows can easily identify and stop pirated media from being usable. There was a lot noise from "advocates of privacy and free-speech" so the plan was scrapped.

Then, Sony applied a similar system in its PS3 that turned it into the least pirated gaming platform available. No one from the "advocates of privacy and free-speech" said anything. In the mean time everyone's shouting the "Death of PC gaming" since piracy is as high as ever while the consoles are turning in millions in revenue.

Same with Windows Defender VS the Anti virus vendors...in fact I'm curious whether some of "advocates of privacy and free-speech" against Window's Killswitch are spurred by the AV vendors themselves. I mean why bother buying Panda AV software for your Windows 8 smartphone when Microsoft can easily kill any malware that popped up?

[radarblade]

That kind of does breach privacy. Suppose if we install an app of our own liking that hasn't been certified by Microsoft or whatsoever and apparently it gets kicked out, people won't be happy in moving onto the Windows 8 bandwagon.

[Shihabyooo]

Until I hear news about this switch being mandatory with no means to shut it, I'm not going to worry about it.
Secure boot, anyone ?

[LifeOnMars]

Now if only they could come up with one for women's mouths.......

[Shihabyooo]

Originally Posted by LifeOnMars

Now if only they could come up with one for women's mouths.......

Leave it to the Japanese.

[erixx]

Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA

Has either google or apple used this kill switch to remove anything other than malware?

Appel apparantly has removed "libidinal" apps a.k.a. GLTG content or so... thus outright censoring, ah, and abortion clinics from its Fi-Fi or Si-Si localization app or however it is called


But anyway, MS could do the same since ... yesterday with the windows Security Centre

[Depth]

Originally Posted by Shihabyooo

Leave it to the Japanese.

Think I could get away with standing in the crowd with one of these while the government does a press release?

[Aquinus]

Sounds like I'm going to be tweaking my firewall to block certain traffic to M$...

[treehouse]

i dont see the big deal here, this killswitch is only applicable to the windows app store, not software downloaded and installed from the internet or a storage medium.

[jsfitz54]

Originally Posted by radarblade

That kind of does breach privacy. Suppose if we install an app of our own liking that hasn't been certified by Microsoft or whatsoever and apparently it gets kicked out, people won't be happy in moving onto the Windows 8 bandwagon.

Was the app paid for, or, free?
If MS can kill it, then how does one get their money back.
It would be a double penalty.
What would be the remedy?

I have been trying Windows 8 Preview and I can say that so far I am not a fan. It looks horrible, is hard to get around in, and feels like a Vista failure.

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by jsfitz54

Was the app paid for, or, free?
If MS can kill it, then how does one get their money back.
It would be a double penalty.
What would be the remedy?

I have been trying Windows 8 Preview and I can say that so far I am not a fan. It looks horrible, is hard to get around in, and feels like a Vista failure.

I couldn't agree more. It looks like a Windows Phone.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by LAN_deRf_HA

Has either google or apple used this kill switch to remove anything other than malware?

Google or Apple...no. Not that I have heard(I was talking about the killswitch in SB long before news was out).

However, Amazon has pulled product off of their ebook service, on the Kindle, some 2 years ago, even product that was legitimately purchased... This tech will offer the very same sort of "protection", and is part of the deal that Intel made with Hollywood.

So why would Amazon remove the books? It appears as though Amazon's purchasing system does this automatically. The company told Ars that they are "changing [Amazon's] systems so that in the future we will not remove books from customers' devices in these circumstances."

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...me-kindles.ars

Originally Posted by treehouse

i dont see the big deal here, this killswitch is only applicable to the windows app store, not software downloaded and installed from the internet or a storage medium.

Becuase such functionality is built into Intel hardware, it wouldn't be that far of a step for there to be a low-level disk-scan that looks for certain files, and then removes them. Just like how they can lock content to certain devices, they can create a routine that disallows non-authorized software.

[Arctucas]

Originally Posted by pr0n Inspector

Except all app stores are walled gardens of varying degrees to begin with.

And as such, they must allow the malware in the first place...

[pr0n Inspector]

Originally Posted by Arctucas

And as such, they must allow the malware in the first place...

You can't seriously expect apps from app stores be 100% clean. Some malicious ones can and will slip through by outsmarting the reviewers or by human errors. But it's certainly safer than simply downloading software from some random corners of the Internet and simply scanning it with AV.

[Arctucas]

Originally Posted by pr0n Inspector

You can't seriously expect apps from app stores be 100% clean. Some malicious ones can and will slip through by outsmarting the reviewers or by human errors. But it's certainly safer than simply downloading software from some random corners of the Internet and simply scanning it with AV.

I can. Seriously.

[TurdFergasun]

"i'm sorry your external HD was not branded by windows, media not accepted into library"

[dorsetknob]

Originally Posted by Depth

Think I could get away with standing in the crowd with one of these while the government does a press release?

I think your find most governments already have counter measure in place to this Japanese device

one counter measure is a remote deployed .44" cal Pb injection
use the Japanese device from the crowd and your be on the receiving end of Multiple PB packages

[theoneandonlymrk]

imho the point is ,what will their definition of malware be because some see origin and google as malware ,though microsoft obv wont.