Is my SB dying? (or 'hopefully', just my psu dying out)

Ev1LrYu · Mar 4, 2012, 12:16 AM

Hi Guys,

So yesterday I was playing an RTS game, when my pc suddenly restarted. It rebooted then after a couple of minutes logged into windows it popped a 'driver problem' (for my sidewinder mouse) then 'Explorer stopped working' then BSOD'd. While rebooting I got a message 'Overclocking failed' (by this time I was sh*tng my pants) so I reset everything to default (bios -> load optimized defaults)

This let me get into windows but running prime would error out in like 10-20secs, with 'Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4), then usually a BSOD shortly after.

Since I overclocked it last November, I have always ran HWMonitor in the background and during my gaming usage cpu temps never really even hit 68c, while previous runs of prime maxed out @ ~72c after an hour.

This was my previous oc config:
Multi: 45
vcore: 1.345 , hovers @ 1.344 during prime run
LLC: ultra
CPU Spread spectrum: disabled
Everything else at default

Things I've tried:

Reset to default clocks in bios (gets me in windows, fails prime)
Keep stock clocks but raised vcore back to 1.300 (heard this works when degredation sets in - but results in more problems: bsod even when idle, sometimes refuses to boot) <- reverted to stock again
Reseat GPU, Mem and Power cables - haven't tried the cpu since I am out of TIM

One more thing, I have always cleaned inside my case every week as we have like 3 pet dogs in the house, and I sh*t myself when I moved the case, I found the following ball of fur underside of the case where the PSU air intake is

On a related note I had a GPU problem a couple of weeks back which I now suspect to be PSU related, please tell me its just my PSU and not my proc

newtekie1 · Mar 4, 2012, 12:19 AM

It could be a lot of things, it could be a stick of RAM failing too.

Check the voltages on the PSU with a Digital Multi-Meter and see what they are doing when the PC is under load/idle.

Ev1LrYu · Mar 4, 2012, 12:24 AM

hmm.. never thought about the ram that much. It happens to be one of the few things I can test as my wife's pc (my previous amd rig) has an identical set. Has a 500W HEC Raptor psu which I realise isn't that reputable, but it did run my old GTX260. Would it be enough to power my setup even just to boot so I can test?

micropage7 · Mar 4, 2012, 12:26 AM

yep try check your ram first
try to reset/clear your bios too

Ev1LrYu · Mar 4, 2012, 12:33 AM

ayt. ill try those in a bit then post feedback. Thanks guys

newtekie1 · Mar 4, 2012, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ev1LrYu

Has a 500W HEC Raptor psu which I realise isn't that reputable, but it did run my old GTX260. Would it be enough to power my setup even just to boot so I can test?

I think the 500w HEC would be good enough to power the rig on at stock speeds and test the CPU. I wouldn't put much load on the GPU though, so don't fire up any games.

Ev1LrYu · Mar 4, 2012, 02:43 AM

Hey guys, have an update!

So I went with the suggestions to check ram, here's what has happened so far:

Removed stick in slot 1 - ran small FFTs (min ram testing) ran ok for 15mins. Ran Blend Test and failed after 10s.
Replaced stick 1, removed stick 2. Ran Small FFTs, ok for 15. now in the process of running Blend, ok so far (going 10mins).

So I assume this has more to do with ram than my procie, I will continue to swap out sticks and slots to isolate, then re-oc.

Will post findings.

Thanks for all the help so far

Mar 4, 2012, 12:16 AM	#1
Ev1LrYu Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Philippines! :D Posts: 164 (0.17/day) Thanks: 158 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts System Specs	Is my SB dying? (or 'hopefully', just my psu dying out) Hi Guys, So yesterday I was playing an RTS game, when my pc suddenly restarted. It rebooted then after a couple of minutes logged into windows it popped a 'driver problem' (for my sidewinder mouse) then 'Explorer stopped working' then BSOD'd. While rebooting I got a message 'Overclocking failed' (by this time I was shtng my pants) so I reset everything to default (bios -> load optimized defaults) This let me get into windows but running prime would error out in like 10-20secs, with 'Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4), then usually a BSOD shortly after. Since I overclocked it last November, I have always ran HWMonitor in the background and during my gaming usage cpu temps never really even hit 68c, while previous runs of prime maxed out @ ~72c after an hour. This was my previous oc config: Multi: 45 vcore: 1.345 , hovers @ 1.344 during prime run LLC: ultra CPU Spread spectrum: disabled Everything else at default Things I've tried: Reset to default clocks in bios (gets me in windows, fails prime) Keep stock clocks but raised vcore back to 1.300 (heard this works when degredation sets in - but results in more problems: bsod even when idle, sometimes refuses to boot) <- reverted to stock again Reseat GPU, Mem and Power cables - haven't tried the cpu since I am out of TIM One more thing, I have always cleaned inside my case every week as we have like 3 pet dogs in the house, and I sht myself when I moved the case, I found the following ball of fur underside of the case where the PSU air intake is On a related note I had a GPU problem a couple of weeks back which I now suspect to be PSU related, please tell me its just my PSU and not my proc __________________ There is no need to purchase overpriced cables because they are gold tipped, blessed by the Pope and waved over an active volcano for good luck. - Kreij Lol, trading 1 core for L3 is almost like losing your manhood so that you can have an extra large finger to please Mrs. While the extra large finger is awesome, but losing your manhood is a big price to pay. - Fourstaff

System Name:	Noobie XTXx \|\| Portalet Crap Machine
Processor:	i5 2500K @ 4.5, 1.345V \|\| i7 2640QM
Motherboard:	ASUS P8P67 PRO \|\| Dell
Cooling:	CM Hyper 212+ \|\| Stock
Memory:	2 x 2gb GSkill DDR3 9-9-9-24 \|\| 8GB DDR3
Video Card:	PowerColor 6970PCS @stock \|\| Optimus (525m)
Hard Disk:	WD Caviar Blue 500 + 320 Hitachi \|\| 500GB
Optical Drive:	Samsung DVD-RW \|\| Stock DVDRW
CRT/LCD Model:	LG W2253TQ \|\| Crappy 1366*768 15"
Case:	CM 690 PURE Black
Sound Card:	On Board
PSU:	ThermalTake Toughpower XT 775w
Software:	Win 7 64bit

Mar 4, 2012, 12:19 AM	#2
newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 17,904 (6.47/day) Thanks: 785 Thanked 5,185 Times in 3,754 Posts System Specs	It could be a lot of things, it could be a stick of RAM failing too. Check the voltages on the PSU with a Digital Multi-Meter and see what they are doing when the PC is under load/idle. __________________ Rig1: System Specs. Rig2: A8-5600K@4.4GHz / AsRock FM2A75 Pro4 / 8GB Corsair DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 / HD7560D / Samsung DVD-Burner / 1.5TB WD Green + 3x3TB WD RED in RAID5 Rig3: Athlon X2 4200+ / M4A79 Deluxe / 4GB G.Skill Pi DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 / GT430 / Sony DVD-Burner / 500GB WD Rig4: Phenom II x6 1605T @ 3.6GHz / Asus M5A99X Evo / 8GB PNY DDR3-1600 9-9-9 / GTX470 & GTX470 / Samsung DVD-Burner / 1.5TB Seagate

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Mar 4, 2012, 12:24 AM	#3
Ev1LrYu Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Philippines! :D Posts: 164 (0.17/day) Thanks: 158 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts System Specs	hmm.. never thought about the ram that much. It happens to be one of the few things I can test as my wife's pc (my previous amd rig) has an identical set. Has a 500W HEC Raptor psu which I realise isn't that reputable, but it did run my old GTX260. Would it be enough to power my setup even just to boot so I can test? __________________ There is no need to purchase overpriced cables because they are gold tipped, blessed by the Pope and waved over an active volcano for good luck. - Kreij Lol, trading 1 core for L3 is almost like losing your manhood so that you can have an extra large finger to please Mrs. While the extra large finger is awesome, but losing your manhood is a big price to pay. - Fourstaff

Mar 4, 2012, 12:26 AM	#4
micropage7 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 3,717 (3.14/day) Thanks: 193 Thanked 853 Times in 559 Posts System Specs	yep try check your ram first try to reset/clear your bios too __________________ :: New Cases, Tips And All About Your Cases Visit CaseGear :: Don't Ever Ask About Love And Honesty That You Don't Ever Have

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CRT/LCD Model:	LG 19 inch LCD Wide Screen
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Sound Card:	Creative Audigy Value
PSU:	VenomRX Red Diamond 650 Watt
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Mar 4, 2012, 12:33 AM	#5
Ev1LrYu Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Philippines! :D Posts: 164 (0.17/day) Thanks: 158 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts System Specs	ayt. ill try those in a bit then post feedback. Thanks guys __________________ There is no need to purchase overpriced cables because they are gold tipped, blessed by the Pope and waved over an active volcano for good luck. - Kreij Lol, trading 1 core for L3 is almost like losing your manhood so that you can have an extra large finger to please Mrs. While the extra large finger is awesome, but losing your manhood is a big price to pay. - Fourstaff

Mar 4, 2012, 02:43 AM	#7
Ev1LrYu Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Philippines! :D Posts: 164 (0.17/day) Thanks: 158 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts System Specs	There seems hope :D Hey guys, have an update! So I went with the suggestions to check ram, here's what has happened so far: Removed stick in slot 1 - ran small FFTs (min ram testing) ran ok for 15mins. Ran Blend Test and failed after 10s. Replaced stick 1, removed stick 2. Ran Small FFTs, ok for 15. now in the process of running Blend, ok so far (going 10mins). So I assume this has more to do with ram than my procie, I will continue to swap out sticks and slots to isolate, then re-oc. Will post findings. Thanks for all the help so far __________________ There is no need to purchase overpriced cables because they are gold tipped, blessed by the Pope and waved over an active volcano for good luck. - Kreij Lol, trading 1 core for L3 is almost like losing your manhood so that you can have an extra large finger to please Mrs. While the extra large finger is awesome, but losing your manhood is a big price to pay. - Fourstaff

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