GeForce GTX 680 Up To 40% Faster Than Radeon HD 7970: NVIDIA - Page 8

Benetanegia · Mar 14, 2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Yeah and Im looking at all the market reports and Im not seeing the 10 times as much. This is why Im asking how they are getting these numbers.

How so? They have told you several times. $581 million vs $51 million, is more than 10x.

http://pcper.com/reviews/Editorial/N...-3-28nm-Kepler

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FY2012 was a strong year overall for NVIDIA though. They say gross revenue rose to $4 billion with a net income of $581.1 million, which is over double that of FY2011. Gross margins went from 39.8% in FY2011 to 51.4% in FY2012. The company appears steady in how they handle business and keep costs down. It was a good year with solid growth across all divisions.

And market share:

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/22543

GC_PaNzerFIN · Mar 14, 2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Yeah and Im looking at all the market reports and Im not seeing the 10 times as much. This is why Im asking how they are getting these numbers.

Financial records are public. Not hard to get the numbers, eh?

http://pressroom.nvidia.com/easyir/c...ue&prid=852383

See?

TheMailMan78 · Mar 14, 2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Benetanegia

How so? They have told you several times. $581 million vs $51 million, is more than 10x.

http://pcper.com/reviews/Editorial/N...-3-28nm-Kepler

And market share:

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/22543

AMD graphics division made 382 million if this is what you are going by. Not ten times.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5465/a...venue-for-2011

beck24 · Mar 14, 2012, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

AMD graphics division made 382 million if this is what you are going by. Not ten times.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5465/a...venue-for-2011

read the whole article: Graphics division 51 million. Thats all Ive been comparing

beck24 · Mar 14, 2012, 09:38 PM

FULL 2011 year from the article you posted

Operating Income $51M

TheMailMan78 · Mar 14, 2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by beck24

read the whole article: Graphics division 51 million. Thats all Ive been comparing

Um.

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For Q4 2011 AMD’s graphics division had 382M in revenue and $27M in operating income, versus $424M revenue and $68M operating income the year before. On a yearly basis AMD booked $1.56B in revenue and $51M in operating income, compared to $1.66B and $149M respectively for 2010.

GC_PaNzerFIN · Mar 14, 2012, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

AMD graphics division made 382 million if this is what you are going by. Not ten times.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5465/a...venue-for-2011

No no, you are comparing wrong numbers again.

Operating Income $27M

Please, don't humiliate yourself more with this.

beck24 · Mar 14, 2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GC_PaNzerFIN

No no, you are comparing wrong numbers again.

Operating Income $27M

Please, don't humiliate yourself more with this.

He is mistaking revenue for profit.

TheMailMan78 · Mar 14, 2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beck24

He is mistaking revenue for profit.

Yeah I am. I concede.

Still doesnt change the fact they lost market share.

theoneandonlymrk · Mar 14, 2012, 09:48 PM

Or the fact its so off topic yout all in fanboi teritory .
dam pone

all soundin a bit. Gay

TheMailMan78 · Mar 14, 2012, 09:51 PM

Where is NVIDIAs operating income. Not its net income.

Edit nevermind. Im thinking of EBIT

the54thvoid · Mar 14, 2012, 10:05 PM

Yeah, can a moderator force this back on topic please? I've just wasted two pages worth of my life reading pedantic shite about financials thaht ARE NOT what the thread is about.

Stop bickering like little bitches and talk about how much the 680 is gonna (almost nearly) pwn the 7970 but only in select circumstances and wont really be worth the premium. So shoulda bought that LCS 7970 when it was on offer.... doh!

Vulpesveritas · Mar 14, 2012, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the54thvoid

Yeah, can a moderator force this back on topic please? I've just wasted two pages worth of my life reading pedantic shite about financials thaht ARE NOT what the thread is about.

Stop bickering like little bitches and talk about how much the 680 is gonna (almost nearly) pwn the 7970 but only in select circumstances and wont really be worth the premium. So shoulda bought that LCS 7970 when it was on offer.... doh!

+10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Anyhow. Anyone else notice that the NDA doesn't end until a week before the end of the quarter? Or am I the only one who notices things like that?

erocker · Mar 14, 2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by the54thvoid

Yeah, can a moderator force this back on topic please?

Stay on target TOPIC!

*In case any of you missed the point. The topic is Nvidia GTX 680 performance over the 7 series.

Thanks.

Prima.Vera · Mar 15, 2012, 11:32 AM

This is pointless. Doesn't matter how fast the card is, if they don't provide forced FXAA from the NVIDIA Control Panel just like AMD's MLAA then good bye nvidia. I still play a lot of relatively older games that don't have AA option from the menu, and also forcing AA from drivers doesn't work, EXCEPT MLAA. So as long as I have MLAA from the control panel, nvidia is NOT an option right now...

xenocide · Mar 15, 2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Prima.Vera

This is pointless. Doesn't matter how fast the card is, if they don't provide forced FXAA from the NVIDIA Control Panel just like AMD's MLAA then good bye nvidia. I still play a lot of relatively older games that don't have AA option from the menu, and also forcing AA from drivers doesn't work, EXCEPT MLAA. So as long as I have MLAA from the control panel, nvidia is NOT an option right now...

If I recall wasn't there a lightweight application for Nvidia cards you could download to force FXAA on? Someone more versed on the topic can probably shed some light, but I'm pretty sure it does exist.

azzonie · Mar 16, 2012, 01:14 AM

Press releases faked to look like valid performance charts are nothing new. Seldom does the hype correlate with reality. Both AMD and Nvidia are guilty of this.

Nortrop · Mar 16, 2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by azzonie

Press releases faked to look like valid performance charts are nothing new. Seldom does the hype correlate with reality. Both AMD and Nvidia are guilty of this.

Yup. AMD pulled the same BS before the release of the 7970. If the charts were to be believed the card should have been +2 times more powerful than the GTX580. Anyways... still waiting for the price drops on the 7 series.

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