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Old Mar 16, 2012, 04:48 PM   #26
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I was expecting a lot more from this, waiting for the W1zz to work his magic The best thing i see coming out of this is ATi price's SHOULD come down
I think people always have too high expectations. Chip is quite a bit smaller than Tahiti so it is great feat if it even gets on par with HD 7970 performance. Like others, interesting to see if it also is better perf/w than Tahiti.
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So here is what I've concluded, the 680 is going to be $600+. Good thing I've been saving for months to build my new rig. !
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I am more worried abt the final retail price @ the moment

when i see the GK104 inside the GTX680, I think what could have been if GK100 had actually existed.. if so were the case, rightfully, i would have got my GK104 inside a GTX660Ti for around 300$

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So it only beats the 7970 when you pour liquid nitrogen over it and run the CPU at 5GHz and 2.4GHz RAM to boost the CPU score?

Apples vs Oranges!
Except it's in stock frequencies, the CPU I mean. And you're saying that as if the 7970 isn't using the very same motherboard, RAM and CPU.
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i wanna see real bench and gtx 680 vs 7970 same mhz of core and memory, make a test qith oc card vs stock is autofanboysm
The gtx680 reference clock is 1GHZ. If these benchmarks are true and the spec sheet bellow is also true, nvidia has done a DAMN good job this round.

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If you look at the game benchmarks the GTX680 is only around 27% faster oveall than the GTX580 tested. This is less than the GTX285 to GTX480 transition,the HD4890 to HD5870 transition and the HD6970 to HD7970 transition.
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If you look at the game benchmarks the GTX680 is only around 27% faster oveall than the GTX580 tested. This is less than the GTX285 to GTX480 transition,the HD4890 to HD5870 transition and the HD6970 to HD7970 transition.
as far as we know right now in the few we have seen.
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If you look at the game benchmarks the GTX680 is only around 27% faster oveall than the GTX580 tested. This is less than the GTX280 to GTX480 transition,the HD4890 to HD5870 transition and the HD6970 to HD7970 transition.
You forget that this is done with chip 200mm2 smaller than GTX 580.
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You forget that this is done with chip 200mm2 smaller than GTX 580.
indeed. along with a TDP lower then 200w. If these benchmarks are true then the GTX680 is going to be one epic card, and im hoping if I get this job I'll get one sometime when they release
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Nvidia pls, this is clearly a milking process, you stopping the inovation, were getting old..
Clearly it's supposed to be a mid range card Y change the plan? you want to dominate the market? It's now the time! just put the price as mid range like 300+ .. but, maybe it's DOUPOLY!..
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So default is 706 core and the boost clock is 1006?
tasty score is tasty!!

seeing as I get over 10k P-Score with my 6790's when i push 940core .

Just for the lower power usage alone, is probably worth switching to a 680 depending on the price. Im not keen on the UK prices for AMD's 7xxx series. Maybe this will be different..
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this fanboy shit needs to stop, half the thread is bullshit
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this fanboy shit needs to stop, half the thread is bullshit
bold claim. got anything to back that up?

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Clearly it's supposed to be a mid range card Y change the plan? you want to dominate the market? It's now the time! just put the price as mid range like 300+ .. but, maybe it's DOUPOLY!..
It may seem like a mid range card, but when nvidia relized there mid range card was able to compete will with AMD high end, why not charge money for it as if it is high end if its got the performance too.
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i would be tempted, if this card was like $299
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I can see amd pulling out a 1050Mhz 7970 and "new" driver improvements
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I can see amd pulling out a 1050Mhz 7970 and "new" driver improvements
They are gonna need too!
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interesting, with only 192,3 GB/s bandwidth, 32,2 GPixel/s pixel filrate, 256 bit and lower memory clcok can outperform the HD7970 even on Powerconsumption at OC state...
very interesting if this all are true..
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bold claim. got anything to back that up?



It may seem like a mid range card, but when nvidia relized there mid range card was able to compete will with AMD high end, why not charge money for it as if it is high end if its got the performance too.
For that reason my money goes to 7870.. They are really smart ass, imagine stressing that midrange card to run 1ghz and if it died prematurely, "Nvidia, well it's price is double send another one to that guy."
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interesting, with only 192,3 GB/s bandwidth, 32,2 GPixel/s pixel filrate, 256 bit and lower memory clcok can outperform the HD7970 even on Powerconsumption at OC state...
very interesting if this all are true..
lower memory clock? the memory clock on Kepler is at an effective 6ghz. HD7970 is at like what 5.5ghz-5.7ghz
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I can see amd pulling out a 1050Mhz 7970 and "new" driver improvements
Nonsense, obviously if needed amd will just tell the retailers to sell oc'ed 7970 at the same $549, and then we'll have to equal performing cards at the same price.

Thanks amd and nvidia for being so greedy.
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lower memory clock? the memory clock on Kepler is at an effective 6ghz. HD7970 is at like what 5.5ghz-5.7ghz
ahh yeah my bad , I mean higher memory clock but still low power consumption

btw, the shader clock is very high, 1411 to 2012, does it effect to bench score?
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I really don't get why people are complaining about nVidia. I mean, they are about to release a "mid range" card that outperforms AMD's flagship.

The way i see it, AMD has got their loyal fanbase to buy expensive cards that are being outperformed by nVidia's mid range card.

We haven't seen W1zzard's benchmarks yet nor pricing for these cards.

I hope these cards retail for 399 or less though, i'll buy 2 then, if 499+ i'll buy 1 and one later on. I'm not paying 549 for a less performing 7970.
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You can always trust extremely low res graphs

I don't see anything except games Nvidia bought for themselves.
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Nonsense, obviously if needed amd will just tell the retailers to sell oc'ed 7970 at the same $549, and then we'll have to equal performing cards at the same price.

Thanks amd and nvidia for being so greedy.
Totally truthful .

I am waiting till may 1`st and buy best price/performance gpu to 250 euros. I hope to se some price drops.
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Must be getting sceptical in my old age, looking at these new set of images thinking - I still just wanna see my fav sites put the card thru the ringer.

I cant help but notice the pic which shows the temps and puts the 580 neck and neck with the 7970, because any review I looked at on the 7970 launch put it in or around 10% cooler than the 580. Altho temps are subject to some degree of change from each review (for obvious reasons), the fact these "independents" managed to find them the very same reeks of BS tbh ^.^'

We'll find out soon enough I guess. Plus all these images so far have been at 1080p, its going to have to hold those gains at higher res's to be of any use to me.
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