ZOTAC GeForce GTX 680 Listed for Pre-Order

[Crap Daddy]

Think of it as a mid-range chip in a high-end card.

[thematrix606]

Originally Posted by kajson

I am Dutch, and looking at prices of stuff constantly, and I can tell you this isnt a website I had ever heard of, from the other prices I saw, they arent very representable on average. So I wouldnt read everything into that price, it's not our local newegg or something.
Their selection of gfx cards isnt that large either.

I don't know, they sell the gtx580 for around 400 euro, which is pretty average. 500 euro for the gtx680 seems right.

[TC-man]

Originally Posted by NHKS

UPDATE: the original link listing the Zotac GTX680 has been removed.. dont ask me why

It said it's sold out. And something like find the successor of this product via the search function on the upper left screen.

[OneCool]

The rolls seem to be reversed on this.


Used to be Nvidia = Big Block,AMD = Small block

Nv had all memory bandwidth and brute force.

AMD always did more for less,Less memory bandwidth Hotter clocks.


Now it seems the rolls have reversed to me.


Let the drag races BEGIN!!!!!!!

[Dj-ElectriC]

Uh... no they didn't, NVIDIA just decided that their GTX660Ti segment card should be GTX680 and fu*ked everybody up

[puma99dk|]

Originally Posted by OneCool

The rolls seem to be reversed on this.


Used to be Nvidia = Big Block,AMD = Small block

Nv had all memory bandwidth and brute force.

AMD always did more for less,Less memory bandwidth Hotter clocks.


Now it seems the rolls have reversed to me.


Let the drag races BEGIN!!!!!!!

less memory srsly their HD 7950/7970 got 3gigs and the GTX 680 got 2gigs if u say that AMD got less there i think u need a calculator

[Rylan]

Originally Posted by puma99dk|

less memory srsly their HD 7950/7970 got 3gigs and the GTX 680 got 2gigs if u say that AMD got less there i think u need a calculator

What in the world did you just type?

[OneCool]

Originally Posted by Dj-ElectriC

Uh... no they didn't, NVIDIA just decided that their GTX660Ti segment card should be GTX680 and fu*ked everybody up

You say no but then spell out what i just said?

Ok.......

[theeldest]

Originally Posted by EarthDog

"Middle class" - You all need to get that out of your head. It PERFORMS like the 7970 so IT IS a high end GPU. I never heard these complaints when the 480 came out... just that, "oh its a failure, it doesnt have the 512c like we all thought". Not hearing that this time around even though its a strikingly similar case to me.

Blame AMD. Blame them for not coming out with something to FORCE Nvidia's hand in to putting out the supposed monster. Dont blame Nvidia for being a for profit organization. From a business standpoint this is genius if you ask me. They should have the headroom to compete with pricing too in case AMD lowers theirs. So in the end, this should all benefit consumers.

Don't blame either of them for their prices. As a business, it's in their best interest to charge as much as people are willing to pay for a card.

Besides, they're both on the same track. Initial 28nm release is smaller chip than final release on 40nm. Gives better yields. The second gen 28nm will (i predict) bump back up to larger chips for the 700 series and 8000 series.

[HumanSmoke]

Originally Posted by blibba

HH is an AMD fanboy site?

The devils in the details...
Example:
AMD card review in comparison with Nvidia card....Nvidia card tested with PhysX on High preset
Not quite an apples-to-apples comparison I would have thought.

A better indicator would be sites whose reviews bounce between different games, resolutions, game i.q. and choice of (r)etail outlets for pricing quotes depending on what card/manufacturer is being reviewed. I can think of at least one site where the product being reviewed would be credited with a price from a large outlet like Newegg inclusive of MIR, while it's review competition is price quoted according to one of the most expensive etail outlets available.

[HumanSmoke]

Double post- soz

[Dent1]

Originally Posted by HumanSmoke

The devils in the details...
Example:
AMD card review in comparison with Nvidia card....Nvidia card tested with PhysX on High preset
Not quite an apples-to-apples comparison I would have thought.

They should really drop Physx support. What is crazy is in Batman Arkham City the GTX 580 gets less than half the frame rate with Physx enabled. Just goes to show what a worthless gimmick it is.

Edit typo 580*. I sit very far from the monitor indeed.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by Dent1

They should really drop Physx support. What is crazy is in Batman Arkham City the GTX 680 gets less than half the frame rate with Pysx enabled. Just goes to show what a worthless gimmick it is.

Are you blind? That review above is a GTX580. Not a 680. Also Batman Arkham city uses the old Physx version that wasn't very good performance wise. Also PhysX in itself isn't a gimmick it is as of right now the only physics engine with effects that are in real time, rather then simulated or placed in like most games using Havok.

[Steevo]

Originally Posted by nvidiaintelftw

Are you blind? That review above is a GTX580. Not a 680. Also Batman Arkham city uses the old Physx version that wasn't very good performance wise. Also PhysX in itself isn't a gimmick it is as of right now the only physics engine with effects that are in real time, rather then simulated or placed in like most games using Havok.

http://www.nvidia.fr/object/physx_knowledge_base.html



Cooking.


Read
Comprehend
Post


In a highly "optimized"game 50+% of physx are prerendred or precalculated to be rendered with the correct resolution later, or during game level loads.

Google

physxcooking.dll

[Marv]

Originally Posted by puma99dk|

less memory srsly their HD 7950/7970 got 3gigs and the GTX 680 got 2gigs if u say that AMD got less there i think u need a calculator

I think you need to read - he quite clearly said memory bandwidth - IE: this new card from Nvidia is on a 256 bit wide memory bus, like the 5870 and 6970, whereas the 480 and 580 had 384 bit wide buses. Now the 7970 is at 384 bit, more like Nvidia's previous cards (GTX570 is 384 too) and the GTX680 is at 256.

[HumanSmoke]

Originally Posted by Marv

(GTX570 is 384 too)

Close.
GTX 570 is 320

[Nkd]

LOL, this is not high end? If it costs 500+ it is high end, and you can not convince me otherwise. You gonna come here and tell me that it is a mid range card just because it is based on gk104? That is a fanboy mentality. I will believe it is a mid range card when nvidia prices it like a midrange. You think Ati is not going to have anything up their sleeve when gtx 780 comes out? If you think so than you clearly are not thinking straight. This is a never ending cycle.

[bill_d]

reviewers should peel off the stickers to see if it says gtx 660 underneath

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by Nkd

LOL, this is not high end? If it costs 500+ it is high end, and you can not convince me otherwise. You gonna come here and tell me that it is a mid range card just because it is based on gk104? That is a fanboy mentality. I will believe it is a mid range card when nvidia prices it like a midrange. You think Ati is not going to have anything up their sleeve when gtx 780 comes out? If you think so than you clearly are not thinking straight. This is a never ending cycle.

I sense a disturbance.....

AMD fanboy?

Saying that people who thing the GK104 is mid range is fanboyism, even though its following suit with the GF104 which was mid range, and then saying that we think that AMD wont have anything to respond with the 780, is fanboy mentality.

[erocker]

Think of it as the best you're going to get right now and you're going to pay for it. That being said, the site listed in the article is charging less for Kepler then they are for 7970's.

[Nihilus]

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Think of it as a mid-range chip in a high-end card.

The GTX 680 is a mid-range card? I always thought the x80s were at the high end. This card performs at HD 7970 levels!! If this "midrange" cost $500 or whatever the conversion is, how much will the fabled GTX 685 cost? $750?!

[Nihilus]

Originally Posted by nvidiaintelftw

I sense a disturbance.....

AMD fanboy?

Saying that people who thing the GK104 is mid range is fanboyism, even though its following suit with the GF104 which was mid range, and then saying that we think that AMD wont have anything to respond with the 780, is fanboy mentality.

Hahaha yeah it really is pathetic. Apparently Nvidia has a 'GTX 685' or whatever right around the corner to destroy everything, yet it's the HD 7970 that has proven it's overclocking strength and could easily be bumped up into a new HD 7980.

But wait - GTX 780 will own everything!!! No way ATi will release an HD 8790, though

[guerco]

Who gives a shit if I can play a game with 5 or 10 more frames per second, as long as its playable with this generation's or previous generations graphics cards? Why did everyone forget about nvidia's and then ati's price fixing scandal? which they sedaled with the plaintiffs out of court a couple of years ago. These two companies are reaping all the benefits of all you're ignorance. Stop wasting your money. I wish their was a third company in the mix. Then we'd see some fair prices and more innovation.

[BumbleBee]

Originally Posted by guerco

Who gives a shit if I can play a game with 5 or 10 more frames per second, as long as its playable with this generation's or previous generations graphics cards? Why did everyone forget about nvidia's and then ati's price fixing scandal? which they sedaled with the plaintiffs out of court a couple of years ago. These two companies are reaping all the benefits of all you're ignorance. Stop wasting your money. I wish their was a third company in the mix. Then we'd see some fair prices and more innovation.

I think some people would roll you up in a carpet and throw you off a bridge before they give up video games haha

[Shurakai]

Originally Posted by Nihilus

The GTX 680 is a mid-range card? I always thought the x80s were at the high end. This card performs at HD 7970 levels!! If this "midrange" cost $500 or whatever the conversion is, how much will the fabled GTX 685 cost? $750?!

Personally I think Nvidia should've just went ahead with their original plan and released this GK104 as the 660, but no, they noticed it performed on par with the 7970 so they decided to rename it 680 and price it accordingly. Sad really, that would've really shook AMD off their current early release throne and caused one hell of a price war.

Dunno about anyone else but I like seeing the companies topple each other over and over.