2560x1440 IPS 27" LED Monitor on the Cheap! - Page 6

NdMk2o1o · Mar 19, 2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mudkip

Doesn't the HP has a true 10bit panel? Why the hell would you sell it for a cheaper version of an IPS panel???

The panel is the same LG IPS found in the dell and apple displays it is not cheap, that said the build quality and other components won't be as good quality though the panel itself is fine.

PopcornMachine · Mar 19, 2012, 09:37 PM

For those who got this monitor and may want a better stand, I remembered this review of Tyke monitor stands at Phoronix.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag..._monitor&num=1

At their site, they have a single monitor stand for $36. Assuming it is VESA compliant and you have a desk to clamp on to.

http://www.tykesupply.com/Products-S...tor_Stand.html

Hope that helps.

EarthDog · Mar 19, 2012, 09:52 PM

zOMG.. its at my door...

NdMk2o1o · Mar 19, 2012, 10:13 PM

Looks like customs have got hold of mine as it showed it was delivered to Heathrow on weekend and today it hasn't changed

Steevo · Mar 19, 2012, 10:42 PM

Guess I will have to sell my 27" to work and buy one of these.......

erocker · Mar 20, 2012, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by EarthDog

zOMG.. its at my door...

How are you liking it?

Btw, the single, dual-dvi models (serial # 2c) are not able to overclock the hz much. Mine can do 65hz fine. There is someone on OCN who is trying to get an order of different logic boards for these. If cheap enough, they'll be a good buy.

EarthDog · Mar 20, 2012, 10:30 AM

Heh... Needed to sign for it.... Will get it today.

BumbleBee · Mar 20, 2012, 10:32 AM

I thought the FireGL and Quadro cards are the only ones that can output a 10-bit video signal?

yogurt_21 · Mar 20, 2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BumbleBee

I thought the FireGL and Quadro cards are the only ones that can output a 10-bit video signal?

that's a driver issue, not a hardware issue. Firegl /quatro drivers will fix it but likely nerf gaming.

BumbleBee · Mar 20, 2012, 03:07 PM

hmm

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=198885

NdMk2o1o · Mar 20, 2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o

Looks like customs have got hold of mine as it showed it was delivered to Heathrow on weekend and today it hasn't changed

Had a card through my door today from ParcelForce, I think it's the monitor, damn won't get my hands on it until tomorrow.

FreedomEclipse · Mar 20, 2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o

Had a card through my door today from ParcelForce, I think it's the monitor, damn won't get my hands on it until tomorrow.

parcelforce??? Wasnt it supposed to be shipped by Fedex?

I hate when you pay for couriers to deliver shit and they pass it off to another company because they cant be arsed to do it.

NdMk2o1o · Mar 20, 2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

parcelforce??? Wasnt it supposed to be shipped by Fedex?

I hate when you pay for couriers to deliver shit and they pass it off to another company because they cant be arsed to do it.

Do we even have Fedex in the UK???

fullinfusion · Mar 20, 2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by erocker

How are you liking it?

Btw, the single, dual-dvi models (serial # 2c) are not able to overclock the hz much. Mine can do 65hz fine. There is someone on OCN who is trying to get an order of different logic boards for these. If cheap enough, they'll be a good buy.

you say do 65Hz fine? My Gateway is running 75Hz outta the box, am I missing something here? Im just trying to understand whats what?

Also So besides this obviously being a cheap Korean monitor, how is the gaming and Blu ray play back? Id like to grab on of these but a little leary due to not seeing one up and running in person to see the response time, contrast, color and such

FreedomEclipse · Mar 20, 2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o

Do we even have Fedex in the UK???

yeah we do - they are global just like DHL, though sometimes DHL deliver through YODEL but yodel are a subsidiary of DHL but you do the official DHL delivery guy knocking on your door once in a while.

If i pay for something to get delivered by a certain courier company then thats what I will fucking get. why pawn it off to another company to deliver it when you could have gone to them in the first place instead of hiring them to do it??

Obviously it doesnt matter so long as you get what you ordered on time but its the priciple of the matter. Parcel Force are Royal Mail if you didnt know.

NdMk2o1o · Mar 20, 2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

yeah we do - they are global just like DHL, though sometimes DHL deliver through YODEL but yodel are a subsidiary of DHL but you do the official DHL delivery guy knocking on your door once in a while.

If i pay for something to get delivered by a certain courier company then thats what I will fucking get. why pawn it off to another company to deliver it when you could have gone to them in the first place instead of hiring them to do it??

Obviously it doesnt matter so long as you get what you ordered on time but its the priciple of the matter. Parcel Force are Royal Mail if you didnt know.

I did know, I could care less if it gets delivered by purple pixies riding on a flying donkey as long as it does, that's borderline OCD man lol

FreedomEclipse · Mar 20, 2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o

I did know, I could care less if it gets delivered by purple pixies riding on a flying donkey as long as it does, that's borderline OCD man lol

well in your case its not delivered....not yet anyway. they most likely never had it in the van with them so just left a 'Sorry-you-was-out' calling card to tell you to go to them to pick your shit up the next day. (and i do have OCD.)

Anath · Mar 20, 2012, 04:57 PM

^I hate those. I wish you could just tell them to leave it instead of them not delivering it.

FreedomEclipse · Mar 20, 2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Anath

^I hate those. I wish you could just tell them to leave it instead of them not delivering it.

Back in the old days - people used to leave your items with your neighbour if you werent in. You didnt NEED to ask them to do it, and they would do it because it saves everyone the hassle.

now you either have to tell them to do it or give them express permission that your parcel can be left with Mr. Morris nextdoor. I blame society really. nobody talks to their neighbours anymore let alone know who they are or what they do for a living.

Obviously the delivery company doesnt want to be held accountable if something valuble goes missing or gets damaged after they handed the parcel over to your neighbour which kinda makes sense.

Anath · Mar 20, 2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

Back in the old days - people used to leave your items with your neighbour if you werent in. You didnt NEED to ask them to do it, and they would do it because it saves everyone the hassle.

now you either have to tell them to do it or give them express permission that your parcel can be left with Mr. Morris nextdoor. I blame society really. nobody talks to their neighbours anymore let alone know who they are or what they do for a living.

Obviously the delivery company doesnt want to be held accountable if something valuble goes missing or gets damaged after they handed the parcel over to your neighbour which kinda makes sense.

Yea i hear ya. I understand they are just saving their ass. I know ups has it where you can sign up for an account where you can tell them to deliver all your packages and not leave a slip. I wish i could do this with fedex. Maybe they have something similar i just dont know about.

BTW for those of you who ordered a monitor how long did it take for the tracking information to show up? I ordered mine over the weekend received the tracking number but when i click it, nothing shows up.

EarthDog · Mar 20, 2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EarthDog

Heh... Needed to sign for it.... Will get it today.

Landed. No dead pixels, works like a champ. WOW is the quality better than my old Acer.

TeXBill · Mar 20, 2012, 09:08 PM

Can't wait for mine to get here.

EarthDog · Mar 21, 2012, 01:16 AM

How the hell do I adjust the brightness on this thing... jeeeezus.

erocker · Mar 21, 2012, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by EarthDog

How the hell do I adjust the brightness on this thing... jeeeezus.

Two buttons next to the power button. Or, you'll have to set things up through your AMD/Nvidia control panel.

theJesus · Mar 21, 2012, 01:42 AM

I recommend QuickGamma as a good, free tool to help calibrate your monitor.

edit: Can somebody who has worked with calibrated IPS panels before compare to using this monitor and QuickGamma?

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