Sony PlayStation 4 Codenamed "Orbis", Runs AMD x86-64 CPU, Southern Islands GPU

btarunr · Mar 29, 2012, 05:02 PM

Sony may have codenamed PlayStation 4 "Orbis" (IPA: /ˈor.bis/), according to a Kotaku report. The next-generation game console is slated for "holiday season, 2013." This information was sourced by Kotaku, from a reliable source with a good track-record of accuracy. Orbis is derived from the Latin word for "circle", or "to circle/orbit". The term "Orbis Vita" or "Orbis Vitae" denotes "the circle of life." The specifications of Orbis known so far, include AMD-made x86-64 CPU, and an AMD-made GPU, built on the Southern Islands (Graphics CoreNext) architecture. In all probability, it could be a unified SoC, a highly scalar Fusion chip.

Source: Kotaku

v12dock · Mar 29, 2012, 05:04 PM

AMD scored a sweet deal with next gen gaming consoles

pjladyfox · Mar 29, 2012, 05:07 PM

This will be an interesting position for AMD to be in since, if I'm not mistaken, this means that they will have not only the next generation Playstation locked in but the next generation models of both Microsoft and Nintendo's consoles. Looks like NVIDIA is tossing their hat in on the mobile front and leaving the console gaming space behind 'tho I'd be curious if this was an active choice on their part or not?

dzero · Mar 29, 2012, 05:10 PM

This only means good things for AMD.

Fourstaff · Mar 29, 2012, 05:12 PM

But can it run Linux?

newtekie1 · Mar 29, 2012, 05:12 PM

I would have thought they would have stuck with a derivative of the Cell processor. But then again that would have made backwards compatibility too easy, and they don't want backwards compatibility.

Also all I could think of when I heard Orbis:

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Originally Posted by Fourstaff

But can it run Linux?

Hardware wise, yes, but the current PS3 can run linux hardware wise. I doubt Sony will include the software to allow it though.

Delta6326 · Mar 29, 2012, 05:13 PM

Dang holiday season 2013, might as well hold off on a new computer till then. for better quality ports.

Fourstaff · Mar 29, 2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by newtekie1

Hardware wise, yes, but the current PS3 can run linux hardware wise. I doubt Sony will include the software to allow it though.

Of course, you can hack Linux to just about anywhere, goddevelopers willing.

Lets hope PS4 supports keyboard and mouse, and then we will have a "PC is the superior gaming platform hurr durrr" argument again

FordGT90Concept · Mar 29, 2012, 05:27 PM

Holy backwards compatibility issues, batman! Why does Sony kick themselves in the ass with every console they release? Nintendo and Microsoft are sticking with IBM PowerPC processors in order to maximize backwards compatibility.

Ferrum Master · Mar 29, 2012, 05:30 PM

are you sane people? This is good news! Who cares about the backwards compatibility... this means PC gaming won't get half baked ports now! Full compatibility as the compiler won't change.

alterecho · Mar 29, 2012, 05:33 PM

Could this be somehow linked with GCN's focus on compute?

Rowsol · Mar 29, 2012, 05:37 PM

Just because it's based on southern islands doens't mean it's going to be high end. I bet they put a cheapo 70 dollar one in there.

OneCool · Mar 29, 2012, 05:40 PM

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games at a resolution of up to 4096x2160

nice

will need a new tv

newtekie1 · Mar 29, 2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rowsol

Just because it's based on southern islands doens't mean it's going to be high end. I bet they put a cheapo 70 dollar one in there.

Not likely, they will probably do what they have done in the past, putting an equivalent to the top end in the console. Of course by the time the console sees the light of day the GPU will already be a generation behind(or two at this rate). So it will probably be a HD7970 or close to it.

FordGT90Concept · Mar 29, 2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferrum Master

are you sane people? This is good news! Who cares about the backwards compatibility... this means PC gaming won't get half baked ports now! Full compatibility as the compiler won't change.

They'll still be half-baked because most games are ported from Xbox, not PlayStation, because of the reliance on DirectX. Additionally, consoles always have limited resoures especially in terms of RAM and that severely limits environment size and the like. Can't forget the lack of mouse and keyboard too. Expect the same-old-same.

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Originally Posted by newtekie1

So it will probably be a HD7970 or close to it.

No no. More like a 6850. If it is a 7970, it would be severely underclocked to reduce the heat and power requirements. I really can't see them using a trillion+ transistor chip in a console though--too expensive to mass produce. They're more likely to use something smaller with a higher clockspeed.

1Kurgan1 · Mar 29, 2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rowsol

Just because it's based on southern islands doens't mean it's going to be high end. I bet they put a cheapo 70 dollar one in there.

4k by 2k res and the fact that when console originally release they usually are actually pretty damn good, I would put money down on you being wrong. Doesn't mean I will buy a PS4 at release, I just think you hunch is off by a long shot.

RejZoR · Mar 29, 2012, 05:54 PM

I think this is only because the CELL was just too expensive. Now, they'll simply run pretty much everything in HW, even physics through GCN.

TRWOV · Mar 29, 2012, 05:56 PM

A10? in my consoles?

TheMailMan78 · Mar 29, 2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

They'll still be half-baked because most games are ported from Xbox, not PlayStation, because of the reliance on DirectX. Additionally, consoles always have limited resoures especially in terms of RAM and that severely limits environment size and the like. Can't forget the lack of mouse and keyboard too. Except the same-old-same.

No no. More like a 6850. If it is a 7970, it would be severely underclocked to reduce the heat and power requirements. I really can't see them using a trillion+ transistor chip in a console though--too expensive to mass produce. They're more likely to use something smaller with a higher clockspeed.

7970 would be fine heat wise and power wise in a console. Just not cost effective. I'm guessing something 7850 or 7770.

SetsunaFZero · Mar 29, 2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Holy backwards compatibility issues, batman! Why does Sony kick themselves in the ass with every console they release? Nintendo and Microsoft are sticking with IBM PowerPC processors in order to maximize backwards compatibility.

its all bout profit, the ps vita is cheaper in production (BIG profit) then the current psp model. coz sony just used tech that is available on the market. They didn't need to develop new CPU nor GPU, again profit they saved dev. costs.

before someone ask if the ps4 will have a BD-drive, yes it will.
Why u ask? coz SonyDADC would go bankrupt and i would lose my job. :|

Dj-ElectriC · Mar 29, 2012, 06:07 PM

My guess is that this console will use the Cape Verde GPU. Performance-wise the HD7770 is about 3.5-4 times faster then PS3's GPU

nt300 · Mar 29, 2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Holy backwards compatibility issues, batman! Why does Sony kick themselves in the ass with every console they release? Nintendo and Microsoft are sticking with IBM PowerPC processors in order to maximize backwards compatibility.

Umm, not sure about Nintendo, but I heard Micro$oft is also going for low power, high performing GPU/CPU Fusion

This is how AMD can offer them best value package.

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Originally Posted by Dj-ElectriC

My guess is that this console will use the Cape Verde GPU. Performance-wise the HD7770 is about 3.5-4 times faster then PS3's GPU

Not sure about the PS4, but that new GPU for the new XBox should be based on the HD 7870M graphics card. M being mobile based which I assume lower power consumption.

dir_d · Mar 29, 2012, 06:18 PM

Id say 7870 or 7850.

OneCool · Mar 29, 2012, 06:22 PM

Its not being released until late 2013 but early 2014 more than likely.Could be a APU.

The gpu within the APU could be anything really.

Could be sampling a APU with 4 core/6650 now and swap it for a 8 core/8670 later

nt300 · Mar 29, 2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dir_d

Id say 7870 or 7850.

ya I was thinking the 7850 but you never know

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneCool

Its not being released until late 2013 but early 2014 more than likely.Could be a APU.

The gpu within the APU could be anything really.

Could be sampling a APU with 4 core/6650 now and swap it for a 8 core/8670 later

Make sense. It about a years away but I think MS is going to try and use a more powerful GPU this time because they got more efficient over the years.

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