TPU's F@H Team

[theonedub]

Thats the thing- I set both slots for GPU from the start but once I hit fold CPU hits 100% and the two cards sit idle.

Here is what I see (forgive the huge pic, but resizing it makes it impossible to read):

[Jstn7477]

That's really weird. If you go to Configure > Expert, is SMP false and GPU true?

[theonedub]

It was a driver issue. Apparently the stuff I have heard about AMD drivers are true- they are awful

The best part was that after I got it working it turned out Core16 still needs essentially 1 CPU core per GPU to keep the cards at 99% activity. I thought the whole point of the improved client was better production and efficiency? If I lock both clients to one core (the unlocked one on my PhenomII B40), they hover at 60%.

Long short- abandon Folding on them for now, leave them as WCG GPUs for the time being.

[Athlonite]

also update your driver to 12.3 as 12.2 is a POS driver

[Jstn7477]

Yep, AMD cards still use a buttload of CPU but do ~30% more points than they used to if I recall.

My Fermi GPUs can be run on single core machines as they use very little CPU, thankfully.

[jsfitz54]

Originally Posted by theonedub

Alright, I see what its going. For some reason its running the Core16 program on the CPU not the GPU. What a weird thing to do. Anyone have an idea how to get it back on the right track? Using 12.2 CCC right now and 7.1.52 v7 client.

Can't give you an answer but I suspect same type issue with my setup running 803x WU.

I don't want to babysit the computer so I'm running SMPs for the time being.

[thebluebumblebee]

You're having problems with the 803x's? The only thing I see with them is that they run hotter than other WU's. The 764x's, on the other hand, those need babysitting, especially in multi-GPU environments.

On another note, I am going to retire from being a full time Folder due to Uncle Sam's demands. I'll be around and might shot in some work from time to time, but other than the CC, I'm done until our income situation changes. (it hasn't changed since 2001) My goal for this winter was to firmly place myself in the top 20 of our team, (mx500 is about to knock me out) and get into the top 2000 (<2000) of the project rankings. BTW, I don't see the ranking as a competition, it more like a golf score - you're playing against yourself.

[jsfitz54]

Sorry your situation is not what you want it to be.

Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

you're playing against yourself.

Reminds me of a joke;

OMally goes to his favorite water hole, sits down and orders a drink.

Flannery, the bar keep, asks: Where've you been, I haven't seen you in a while.

O'Mally says: I haven't been feeling myself lately.

Flannery says: Tis a good thing, that was a nasty habit you had!

[theoneandonlymrk]

Originally Posted by theonedub

The best part was that after I got it working it turned out Core16 still needs essentially 1 CPU core per GPU to keep the cards at 99% activity. I thought the whole point of the improved client was better production and efficiency? If I lock both clients to one core (the unlocked one on my PhenomII B40), they hover at 60%.

Long short- abandon Folding on them for now, leave them as WCG GPUs for the time being.

thats what ive been saying, the cpu loads gone up a lot in V7, with my quad i can run only 1 uniproc client and the two gpu's or the gpu clients suffer and i cant even run a 2Smp as its then using 50% cpu and the gpus need 50-75 though mostly 50ish% i did try lowering the cpu load to a 2 Smp but i still lost some gpu ppd

[thebluebumblebee]

This is what I hate about forums. All of this info about CPU usage with AMD GPU's has been covered in the past including a large quote that I posted on this topic. As time goes on, that info gets buried and has to be repeated.

[Jstn7477]

Originally Posted by theoneandonlymrk

thats what ive been saying, the cpu loads gone up a lot in V7, with my quad i can run only 1 uniproc client and the two gpu's or the gpu clients suffer and i cant even run a 2Smp as its then using 50% cpu and the gpus need 50-75 though mostly 50ish% i did try lowering the cpu load to a 2 Smp but i still lost some gpu ppd

My Intel 2600K @ 4.5GHz handles AMD clients well and they only use up about 15% each. I gave my HD 5770 and 6670 to my dad for folding and they walk all over his stock 965BE, using 50-60% at all times. Since he doesn't crunch, I figured I would get rid of him them on his machine since all he does is browse the internet and use accounting software at the office. I think having an Intel CPU makes a big difference in folding on the AMD GPUs, I guess. Either that or the CPU is that much more powerful, who knows.

As I have mentioned before, I have a GTX 550 Ti and GT 440 folding perfectly on a P4 651 in an ASRock 775Dual-VSTA, and 2 GTX 460s folding on a Sempron 130. NVIDIA GPUs (Fermi cores specifically) are simply amazing folders but I'm stuck using 285.62 or whatever drivers because the new ones don't work right.

[theoneandonlymrk]

Originally Posted by Jstn7477

I figured I would get rid of him on his machine

thats a nit harsh isnt it

[thebluebumblebee]

Originally Posted by Jstn7477

I figured I would get rid of him on his machine....

Freudian slip?

[theonedub]

Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

This is what I hate about forums. All of this info about CPU usage with AMD GPU's has been covered in the past including a large quote that I posted on this topic. As time goes on, that info gets buried and has to be repeated.

Yes, I've been around the forums long enough to have read about the crappy AMD performance (and the tricks like Flush interval settings, etc).

I had thought that the 'improved' client Stanford had been touting resolved what has always been the two biggest complaints about AMD performance which is why I decided to build this AMD rig. Unfortunately it seems as though only the PPD issue has been addressed, and even the current performance is not up to what AMD users were expecting.

Oh well, the 6850s are already gone and at least one GTX 460 is lined up to replace it

[Athlonite]

Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

This is what I hate about forums. All of this info about CPU usage with AMD GPU's has been covered in the past including a large quote that I posted on this topic. As time goes on, that info gets buried and has to be repeated.

There be one problem with that thinking the early settings used by AMD/ATI card users no longer apply because the client no longer uses CAL for doing the calculations that folding requires the new client uses OpenCL

[thebluebumblebee]

Originally Posted by Athlonite

There be one problem with that thinking the early settings used by AMD/ATI card users no longer apply because the client no longer uses CAL for doing the calculations that folding requires the new client uses OpenCL

That is NOT what I'm talking about, although I've wondered if any of those EV's that you are referring to would help.

Here's the post that I'm referring to:http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...2&postcount=31

[BUCK NASTY]

Guy's

I'm heading West this year on a epic(solo) Car-Camping/Mountain Biking trip in the next few months. I would like to personally meet some of you and do lunch or dinner. Looks like I will be running thru the following states:

Southern Alabama
Southern Mississippi
Central Louisiana
Northern Texas(Texbill!)
Central Oklahoma(get ready msgclb!)
Central/Northern Colorado
Mad dash for SoCal(optional)

Let me know if your somewhere along the way. I won't mind driving a couple of hours extra to meet my F@H brothers.

[Athlonite]

Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

That is NOT what I'm talking about, although I've wondered if any of those EV's that you are referring to would help.

Here's the post that I'm referring to:http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...2&postcount=31

Ah yup got ya

when I first started using V7 I still had the EV's in place from the previous V6.41 build they were there a week before I remembered about them so I took them out and noticed no difference at all in performance or CPU utilization which is a shame really coz the EV's I had setup used sod all CPU time for a WU on the GPU

[mx500torid]

Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Guy's

I'm heading West this year on a epic(solo) Car-Camping/Mountain Biking trip in the next few months. I would like to personally meet some of you and do lunch or dinner. Looks like I will be running thru the following states:

Southern Alabama
Southern Mississippi
Central Louisiana
Northern Texas(Texbill!)
Central Oklahoma(get ready msgclb!)
Central/Northern Colorado
Mad dash for SoCal(optional)

Let me know if your somewhere along the way. I won't mind driving a couple of hours extra to meet my F@H brothers.

You coming close to Boise??? Dinners on me and got extra bedrooms.

[msgclb]

Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Guy's

I'm heading West this year on a epic(solo) Car-Camping/Mountain Biking trip in the next few months. I would like to personally meet some of you and do lunch or dinner. Looks like I will be running thru the following states:

Southern Alabama
Southern Mississippi
Central Louisiana
Northern Texas(Texbill!)
Central Oklahoma(get ready msgclb!)
Central/Northern Colorado
Mad dash for SoCal(optional)

Let me know if your somewhere along the way. I won't mind driving a couple of hours extra to meet my F@H brothers.

Good grief, does that mean I'll have to come out from under my rock.
By the way, I have no beds as I live under a rock.

[BUCK NASTY]

Originally Posted by msgclb

Good grief, does that mean I'll have to come out from under my rock.
By the way, I have no beds as I live under a rock.

I have a "ton" of points for free nights at Hotels, so beds are not needed. I just want to meet you guy's face to face and dispel the rumor(s) that your not human.

[johnspack]

Dr can't afford this, but still doing it, is doing it.... I'll probably get shut down in the summer. Gotta try for 15th......

[BUCK NASTY]

I actually picked up a -bigadv WU(P6900) on a i7-870. What gives? Is Pande Group just teasing/taunting me?

[mstenholm]

Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

I actually picked up a -bigadv WU(P6900) on a i7-870. What gives? Is Pande Group just teasing/taunting me?

I want one too teasing or not

[msgclb]

Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

I actually picked up a -bigadv WU(P6900) on a i7-870. What gives? Is Pande Group just teasing/taunting me?

I hope so.
How about some more info such as is it that rig in system specs and what client and ppd.