The Mass Effect 3 Thread

[RevengE]

Well, looks like I will wait.

[techtard]

They may never release a bargain bin version that has all the DLC. Mass Effect 2 is 2 years old and they still make you buy the DLCs seperately.

EA has taken greed and predatory practices to a new level.

There's also a rumor floating around that they intended to release the game broken and unfinished, and were going to sell the 'real' ending as DLC.

[FordGT90Concept]

Mass Effect as well. EA is not one for bundling and if they do (like The Sims), it is always incomplete.


Considering how well the Indoctrination Theory fits, I wouldn't be surprised at all if that is the case. There's a lot of design elements that are pointed out within the Indoctrination Theory that were either very intentional or very shoddy. Bioware is capable of both so only time will tell.

[RevengE]

Never got the DLC for ME2. Prolly won't for ME3 when the price drops to "worth it" status.

[techtard]

Overlord was Ok for ME2. Lair of the Shadow Broker was pretty badass.
I had leftover Bioware points from Dragon Age Origins, so I got the DLC for Mass Effect.

[FordGT90Concept]

Lair of the Shadow Broker was the only one that was worth it for ME2.

[RevengE]

I may have to check that out. I actually liked ME1 & 2. I had a feeling 3 would be a let down.

[lyndonguitar]

I got one thing to say if you think the ending suck.

Spoiler

GOOGLE "SHEPARD'S INDOCTRINATION THEORY"

or watch this, its long but good explanation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythY_GkEBck

[techtard]

Indoc. Theory already brought up in this thread. Might be in a spoiler tag though.

[FordGT90Concept]

Originally Posted by lyndonguitar

I got one thing to say if you think the ending suck.

Spoiler

GOOGLE "SHEPARD'S INDOCTRINATION THEORY"

or watch this, its long but good explanation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythY_GkEBck

That's not what sucks, it is the fact Bioware outright said it wasn't true. They basically upheld their crappy ending. Not long after (and lots of boos/bad reviews/bad publicity), they announced a free DLC (until 2014) that will "extend" the ending with more cutscenes.

[lyndonguitar]

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

That's not what sucks, it is the fact Bioware outright said it wasn't true. They basically upheld their crappy ending. Not long after (and lots of boos/bad reviews/bad publicity), they announced a free DLC (until 2014) that will "extend" the ending with more cutscenes.

maybe they didn't want people believing in it yet so they could still surprise us with the DLC. If they say it now, theres no point making an explanation DLC.

maybe they planned this theory all along with a surprise DLC in the end, and planned to mindfuck us like inception did but they didnt anticipate the fans hating on the game because of the ending so plan got messed up.

all this is a maybe, Im keeping my hopes up for this game.

[FordGT90Concept]

But making people pay for the real ending, that's going to annoy them even more than that POS ending being the true ending. If that was truly intent, hopefully BiowEAr learned their lesson from that experiment.

[RevengE]

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

But making people pay for the real ending, that's going to annoy them even more than that POS ending being the true ending. If that was truly intent, hopefully BiowEAr learned their lesson from that experiment.

That's insane. From a consumers standpoint I paid 60.00 for this game, Why should I have to pay more for DLC/Alternate endings? That is the #1 reason I never get DLC. It should be included for free.

[KainXS]

what we got is the real ending and they said they would make the dlc free for a long time after its release basically they made a pile of poop ending and need to patch it up to satisfy people and the indoctrination theory is a theory and its only that, its probably all bs(who knows) and bioware has said no to it already, but they can always use it to save their asses in the long run because people want something positive to believe in.

The Pay for a decent ending thing has been going on for a while now though, after I realized that I calmed down and just said who cares myself, this is how games are evolving, we get less and less content and thats that, can't blame the developers either really, if you have ever worked in developing anything, you know what I mean.

[techtard]

You need to look up John Riccitiello on Youtube, there are videos out there that explain his views on DLC and gouging his customers. He is one of the head guys at EA, and he is a greedy, greedy man.

EA is going to push the DLC boundry as far as it will go until people finally stand up for their rights as paying customers. Their games are already rushed, and shorter, with more and more content cut to sell as DLC.

Too many mindless consumer-whores buy DLC without thinking about the consquences.

[lyndonguitar]

Originally Posted by techtard

You need to look up John Riccitiello on Youtube, there are videos out there that explain his views on DLC and gouging his customers. He is one of the head guys at EA, and he is a greedy, greedy man.

EA is going to push the DLC boundry as far as it will go until people finally stand up for their rights as paying customers. Their games are already rushed, and shorter, with more and more content cut to sell as DLC.

Too many mindless consumer-whores buy DLC without thinking about the consquences.

just saw his wiki the other day. it was edited with reapers and insults and shit.

I saved the page, goes like this

Spoiler

Nationality Reaper
Education Bachelor of Science
Alma mater University of California, Berkeley
Occupation CEO
Employer Star Kid
Known for CEO of Electronic Arts
Salary $800,000.00
Net worth $10 million
Predecessor Sovereign

John Riccitiello is the oldest rEAper of Electronic Arts (EA).

He received his Reaping Degree degree from the Catalyst School of Colors at the University of Space Magic, Berkeley.

I laughed my ass off when I saw it, now its gone.

[D007]

Originally Posted by lyndonguitar

I laughed my ass off when I saw it, now its gone.

All I know, is I felt kinda shafted, at the end of ME 3.. Maybe I expected too much.. But I usually don't.. Idk.. It seemed to fast and it seemed like everything I did, in the previous games, amounted to pretty much nothing but text lines.. It seemed very anti-climactic..

[lyndonguitar]

Originally Posted by D007

All I know, is I felt kinda shafted, at the end of ME 3.. Maybe I expected too much.. But I usually don't.. Idk.. It seemed to fast and it seemed like everything I did, in the previous games, amounted to pretty much nothing but text lines.. It seemed very anti-climactic..

The Games/Series is awesome overall except for that ending, I nearly cried at some points of the last game,

First game was about welcoming you into the world of mass effect, what is this?, what is that?, what are the reapers?

Second game was about questioning "can we defeat the Reapers?, About what they can do".

Third game was about "Can we survive?, How can we defeat them?"

all is good until the ending which was OKAY, but wasn't able to close the epicness of the whole series together properly. maybe its just indoc. theory and its a fake ending, maybe its the true ending they fcked up at the very end. I dunno..

if they could only translate the epicness of this game into a movie and not lose a single epicness. + good ending = IMO will be one of the greatest movies ever, can even surpass Star Wars or LOTR in my list.(in fact it is right there in the top even though its just a game!)

[FordGT90Concept]

I thought Mass Effect was 9/10, Mass Effect 2 was 4/10, Mass Effect 3 was 6/10. The game went straight off a cliff after the original.

Spoiler

The first game you explored really interesting planets and mysteries from Feros to Virmire. You had a boss: Saren, and a super-boss: Soverign. At many points, there were huge decisions players had to make with far-reaching consequences.

In the second game, it was almost entirely about expanding your crew and indebting you to Cerberus. There was no super-boss, just a human form of what you already defeated. There was no other boss. The entire game felt like off-topic filler. They also dumbed down the combat to a point the game went from excellent to play on PC to boring. And thermal clips? WTF? I thought the infinite ammo with cooldown was awesome from the original.

The third game's only redeeming factors were seeing Tali's and Wrex's story coming full circle as well as bringing more weapon variety back to the game. Except for those two plots that started in the original game, the story felt mostly dead. How they ended it merely confirmed the suspicion.

[Akrian]

Well I've finally bought the game ( found a cheap 20$ copy, couldn't pass on that).
Still playing it. My impressions so far : well it's Mass Effect alright, and dialog is as usual pretty awesome, cinematics are top notch, graphics are ok (somehow I thought that ME2 looked better 0_o), kicked catalyst profile to edge detect and 24xEQ, maxed everything I can, so it looks semi-sharp most of the time.
Now about the game and the story so far ( still havn't beaten it yet): I personally think that this has got to be probably the most boring one out of all MEs.
First one was all about exploration and discovery, the establishment of the universe etc, pretty awesome game.
I looooved the second one even more, because the intro was so damn epic, the improved combat, awesome and INTERESTING crew, and their loyalty missions, liked the new worlds to explore etc, it was great ( except for the humanoid reaper, that was prly the lamest moment in the game).
And so now I'm playing third one, and the story doesnt sound all that great, in fact it's pretty boring, after all that "holy shit reapers are "ze ancient evil of untold strength"" we get them invading earth, and.. you get to go all around the galaxy, and I don't care how fast normandy is, you get to travel back and forth 100500 times, and the earth is still there. For some bad-ass super race they are pretty damn slow at trying to wipe one single planet of least developed beings in the galaxy.
Next : this kid flashbacks ( considering the current official ending) are pretty pointless. Crew : boring crew ( except for EDI and Joker).
Third: this is flipping WAR, why sheppard decided that it is illigal to carry portable termo-nuclear rocket launcher ? why such a useful tool was put away on the shelf and forgotten?
Why do I have to go and play multiplayer to pump the readiness level to get best ending ? Why multiplayer basically interfearing with my single-player experience ? this is frustrating, if I want good multi, I play BF3, if I want console-fest I get Gears 3 or Uncharted 3. =\

Oh and this is also got the be one of the easiest games I ever played in my life - pimped chakram rifle that you get from Kingdoms of Amalur has got to be the most overpowered rifle ever thanks to AOE damage its basically a sniper-rifle with faster rate of fire, aoe explosions and 57+7 ammo capacity, takes tanks and anything except for banshies in less then one clip =\ combined with insta-recharge that makes you pretty much a god in this game since first self-deployed mission.

[FordGT90Concept]

Originally Posted by Akrian

why such a useful tool was put away on the shelf and forgotten?

My guess? EA wants your money. Buy it in a DLC.

[Akrian]

Well I've finished it couple of days ago. Endings are indeed crappy. I guess by the end of the development cycle Bioware decided to unleash that rabid Dragon Age 2 team, and their writers. Well let's hope that this "free till 2014 dlc ending" will be better

[techtard]

I haven't plyed the single player game again since I finished it shortly after launch. There's no word yet on when they are releaseing the DLC, but I have lowered my expectations.

Mass Effect looked like it was going to be this generation's Star Wars.
And instead of releasing Return of the Jedi as part 3, they gave us The Phantom Menace.
I can't believe they ended a 5 year epic trilogy with such a whimper, and not a roar.

[GreiverBlade]

i have ME 1 2 3 collector on xbox360 ME 1 2 collector on pc and unfortunatelly ME 3not collector on PC
(nope im not a fanatic ... im worse... )

ME3 on Pc so far no bugs or glitch on my specs (even run on a C60 netbook when im on pause at job xD, history amazing, did 1st one raw run no save imported i got a Tali suicide ... wich bugged me beyond resucitation... so i redid ME 1 and 2 importing my save re doing the plot at my taste did the right end (right not right ... you know the oposit to left xD ) i keep redoing ME 1 2 3 toying with the story to see all faces ... pretty entertaining.

opinion on End ... well will its quite a surprise ... its kinda Cute since its a old story telling of "the Shepard" hero, might not suits everyones tastes but its like that.

(i own also Reckoning : Kingdom of Amalur ... well my R:KoA in shepard armor xD is good looking but the Omniscient blade are rather weak (dont care) but... HELL in ME3 Chakram launcher once on V mark its ... HUGE if not : totally OP ... i use it when i rerun 1st run i prefered the Galarian Scorpion as a "sniper handgun" )

Originally Posted by Akrian

Well I've finished it couple of days ago. Endings are indeed crappy. I guess by the end of the development cycle Bioware decided to unleash that rabid Dragon Age 2 team, and their writers. Well let's hope that this "free till 2014 dlc ending" will be better

nope its not a new end but some explanation on the current end and links with the story to make the end less blury

Originally Posted by Akrian

Third: this is flipping WAR, why sheppard decided that it is illigal to carry portable termo-nuclear rocket launcher ? why such a useful tool was put away on the shelf and forgotten?

funny for the M-920 Cain "portable nuke" was a nickname for a non nuclear weapon since its a "LMAC" firing "HVER":
Normandy's scientists have prototyped a modified version of traditional high-explosive rounds that is applied to a 25-gram slug. When accelerated to 5 km/s, the round is devastating. Though a technically inaccurate label, this prototype weapon is nicknamed the "Nuke Launcher," and its high-explosive matrix generates an archetypical mushroom cloud on impact.

as said despit his name it isnt a nuclear weapon but rather a "HVER" launcher

and yes it is in ME3 ... but on "last misson" altho many other weapon are allready OP to use before the return of the Cain

The Mass Effect 3 Cain model is considerably smaller than its Mass Effect 2 iteration.

(i cant say that EA didnt fucked up ME ... since im a fanatic (or worse...) i hate them for that (tho i also have DA:O DAII ...) i allways say you will never get me twice but i allways fall for it ... stoopid me )

[CMetaphor]

Hello fellow ME3'ers! Anyone round here playing MP? I ask because i saw this "operation shieldwall" thing last night, so I tried doing what it said and "promoting" 3 of my guys to the SP campaign as war assests... the only problem is nothing happened after that? I thought I'd get something special by doing that (which is the requirement for the operation) but nadda.... anyone know whats going on?