Keep 35 GB HDD Space Handy for Max Payne 3

[the_wolf88]

Naaah !

It's big in size just because it has all the languages single package !!

So if you install English only it may need approx 10 -15GB !

[Soylent Joe]

Ugh, of course it "can benefit from" a GTX 680 + i7. They should have put more thought into what you actually need to run it maxed out fluidly (45-60fps), which I'm sure would be any quad core 2.5GHz+ and a 6870+/560+.

[W1zzard]

Originally Posted by Bumbis

Rockstar said on twitter that Max Payne 3 is not ported.

they showed us an extremely impressive demo at nvidia kepler editor's day, but played it with a gamepad

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

I dunno - I personally bought a lot of games off steam during the christmas/new year deals period

Oh I know man. I'm just saying the average Joe Gamer doesn't normally do 35GB a month worth of game downloading. Some cant even if they wanted due to bandwidth cap.

Originally Posted by the_wolf88

Naaah !

It's big in size just because it has all the languages single package !!

So if you install English only it may need approx 10 -15GB !

This makes way more sense.

[thematrix606]

The whole point is, a blu-ray movie can easily run into that size, and ALL that is is video and audio for about 2 hours. Just imagine, if you had cinematics that ran around around 2 hours in your game, you'd already be up to your 25gb limit RIGHT there. Before any models, textures, cutscenes, music, audio, game engine, etc!

Think before you post people. 35gb is nothing now a days. That's why internet is getting faster and cheaper, and you can buy a 3 tb disk for 140euro. Another reason why SSDs are so overpriced, they are useless... as I've been saying for a while now.

And as a bandwidth rebuttal: I'm currently running @ 100mbits for 40euro/month in Holland, even in eastern European countries they've had this for a while at similar prices. If your country isn't supporting these speeds or your provider isn't: you live in a 3rd world country. Yes, don't complain on the forum, complain to your government and get yourself out of that ditch.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by thematrix606

The whole point is, a blu-ray movie can easily run into that size, and ALL that is is video and audio for about 2 hours. Just imagine, if you had cinematics that ran around around 2 hours in your game, you'd already be up to your 25gb limit RIGHT there. Before any models, textures, cutscenes, music, audio, game engine, etc!

Think before you post people. 35gb is nothing now a days. That's why internet is getting faster and cheaper, and you can buy a 3 tb disk for 140euro. Another reason why SSDs are so overpriced, they are useless... as I've been saying for a while now.

Wow man......wow.

[AsRock]

Originally Posted by thematrix606

How is that? It's faster to download from torrents than ANY other medium, ie Steam, Origin or directly from a website.

"by KingPing (12:31 PM) - Reply
Wonder if the high requirements are because of the stunning graphics or to compensate and eventual shitty port"

This... shitty port, it looks like GTA4 with a few added effects, and AA looks horrible.

Actually i max my download speed though Steam which is 3.4MBs. Although this is just one of those games i want a hard copy of like with Hitman and The Witcher for example..

What is funny as i use a external DVD player it be faster to download it though steam than using the DVD player HAHAHA.

And as for GTA4 was just to much for current PC's and they gave people graphic options that trampled all over their new system.. Sure the game was far from perfect but it better than a load of other games out their and gave top notch physics that most games don't even get close to.

[thematrix606]

Originally Posted by AsRock

Actually i max my download speed though Steam which is 3.4MBs. Although this is just one of those games i want a hard copy of like with Hitman and The Witcher for example..

What is funny as i use a external DVD player it be faster to download it though steam than using the DVD player HAHAHA.

On Steam I'd usually get 6MBs, and 8MBs if I'm really lucky, that means any day that there are no sales I can never reach my 9-10MBs that I get on torrents

[15th Warlock]

Weird way of posting system requirements, it's like they just posted the specs for a tipical high end system as recommended specs? My system fits the bill perfectly, if this game does indeed max my system components as advertised, this game instantly went from way bellow my gaming radar to "incoming bandit! man all battlestations!" in my radar

Here's hoping for a proper return to the limelight to good old Max I really hope this is not just a marketing ploy.

The next Crysis everyone?

[lilhasselhoffer]

Help me understand this.

A company that has had issues with console to PC ports has finally thrown their hands in the air and shouted "F*** it, we'll just make it for the PC!" After saying this, they've shown a dedication to pushing the limits of everything (Crysis 2.0 maybe?). They've shown tech demos that are impressive.

After doing all of this, and telling us that its just for PCs, people from the PC crowd are looking at this and complaining about how system intensive they estimate it is going to be. What?


I'm no fan of the more recent forays by Rockstar, but they are pushing boundaries and showing that they can make money at it. The games industry needs someone like them, so that we don't have something like a semi-annual Halo to match our annual Madden/FIFA games.


Like them or hate them, Rockstar is pushing the limits of gaming, which everyone on this forum should appreciate. Even if Max Payne 3 isn't on your wish list, this type of thing will help other developers justify more time and effort being put into games than is currently seen as "financially reasonable."

[FordGT90Concept]

Originally Posted by Kreij

The large disk requirements are most likely due to lots of game assets (cinematics, huge texture files, lots of HD audio), but it's still a lot.

My finger points to huge textures. GTA4 was 15-16 GiB owing almost entirely to textures. They're taking textures to the next level on Max Payne 3 (and presumably GTA5) to satisfy all those people out there with 2+ GiB VRAM graphics cards.


I think the more outstanding figure is the 2-16 GiB RAM. 16 GiB impiles 64-bit. This might be the first ever 64-bit commercial Windows game that actually has a reason for being 64-bit rather than just being an advertising gimmick.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by lilhasselhoffer

Help me understand this.

A company that has had issues with console to PC ports has finally thrown their hands in the air and shouted "F*** it, we'll just make it for the PC!" After saying this, they've shown a dedication to pushing the limits of everything (Crysis 2.0 maybe?). They've shown tech demos that are impressive.

After doing all of this, and telling us that its just for PCs, people from the PC crowd are looking at this and complaining about how system intensive they estimate it is going to be. What?


I'm no fan of the more recent forays by Rockstar, but they are pushing boundaries and showing that they can make money at it. The games industry needs someone like them, so that we don't have something like a semi-annual Halo to match our annual Madden/FIFA games.


Like them or hate them, Rockstar is pushing the limits of gaming, which everyone on this forum should appreciate. Even if Max Payne 3 isn't on your wish list, this type of thing will help other developers justify more time and effort being put into games than is currently seen as "financially reasonable."

The fact you think this isn't a port is disturbing.

[FordGT90Concept]

Don't consolitis a game by its cover.


Edit: And I'm pretty sure I've seen this posted a third time now on TPU. I can't, for the life of me, find the first.

[yogurt_21]

game size isn't an issue , 2.2TB available on my gaming raid, 1.2 TB available on my backup,

the fact that it looks nothing like max payne is the deal breaker. Maybe once it hits 30$ I'll pick it up off of a 75% off sale on steam. Maybe.

[HTC]

Originally Posted by btarunr

For example, the game can take advantage of 6-core Intel Core i7-3960X, 8-core AMD FX-8150, the fastest single-GPU graphics cards in the market, as well as 16 GB of RAM.

I smell a new CPU bench.

For CPUs, this should finally be able to show their true power by using all their available cores (be those true cores, modules and / or threads): it's about freaking time some game did this!!!

About the 35GB HDD requirement: a bit steep for your average game but this is the way of the future.

More and more games will have these kinds of requirements (not referring to HDD space) to take full advantage of the game. Obviously, the game will still run on lower hardware: Rockstar wouldn't drive away their own customers by requiring a performance GPU, for example.

Originally Posted by erixx

smart antipiracy move

Not really: I've seen many 100+ GB stuff out there (not games, ofc). It will detract many, though.

Originally Posted by thematrix606

The whole point is, a blu-ray movie can easily run into that size, and ALL that is is video and audio for about 2 hours. Just imagine, if you had cinematics that ran around around 2 hours in your game, you'd already be up to your 25gb limit RIGHT there. Before any models, textures, cutscenes, music, audio, game engine, etc!

Think before you post people. 35gb is nothing now a days. That's why internet is getting faster and cheaper, and you can buy a 3 tb disk for 140euro. Another reason why SSDs are so overpriced, they are useless... as I've been saying for a while now.

And as a bandwidth rebuttal: I'm currently running @ 100mbits for 40euro/month in Holland, even in eastern European countries they've had this for a while at similar prices. If your country isn't supporting these speeds or your provider isn't: you live in a 3rd world country. Yes, don't complain on the forum, complain to your government and get yourself out of that ditch.

If cinematics are the sole reason for the steep HDD requirements, then it's a monster fail as pirates could just strip them from the game and presto: you'll have a much easier to download game and this will actually increase pirating for this game, IMO. If high res textures are another reason, then pirates can remove them and this can shrink the game's size considerably.

As for bandwidth, i'm paying 64.99€ for 60 Mb/s but that includes TV and phone (free for land calls). Not everybody is in your or mine situation, though: just ask Kreij, for example.

[Filiprino]

What about start using Blu-Ray?
They could have made two boxed versions of this game: DVD and Blu-Ray.

That option was used in the past during the change from CD to DVD. Dual layer Blurays give you 50 GB.

[devguy]

Originally Posted by Filiprino

What about start using Blu-Ray?
They could have made two boxed versions of this game: DVD and Blu-Ray.

That option was used in the past during the change from CD to DVD. Dual layer Blurays give you 50 GB.

This

[laszlo]

lol i can download it in 1 hr....

[ShiBDiB]

Originally Posted by erixx

smart antipiracy move

Not at all, this will be ripped and the size cut in half or problly less.

[Sasqui]

Originally Posted by W1zzard

they showed us an extremely impressive demo at nvidia kepler editor's day, but played it with a gamepad

I wonder if behind the curtain there was a PC, or XBox... or what?

[Kreij]

Originally Posted by thematrix606

If your country isn't supporting these speeds or your provider isn't: you live in a 3rd world country.

Huh. Never really viewed the US as a 3rd world country, but I guess I should start.

Yes, don't complain on the forum, complain to your government and get yourself out of that ditch.

Our government doesn't supply our internet, private companies do. The problem is with demographics and population densities. It's changing here in the sticks, but change isn't all that quick many times. Thankfully the little telco coop nearby is expanding fiber in our area (something the big players were never interested in doing as the ROI would pretty much suck).

[Dent1]

Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

not really. Size of the torrent means very little. as most people have fast connections and eventually the as more people complete the download and start seeding the file, other downloaders will get it even faster then the last guy did.

as far as the hard drive space goes. I dont install my games to C: but to another hard drive dedicated to my games. which has over 500GB of space left for future games.

So i think the people who have a problem with the 35GB space requirement will be a minority - slightly more then a handful of people shall we say.

So no - theres no 'anti-piracy' move there apart from steams own DRM or the fact that you might need to register with Rockstar to be able to play the game in the first place etc etc

Not really - As you should know being British, a lot of the ISPs here have monthly fair usage bandwidth caps of around 20-30GB. So if somebody is on BT and is silly enough to download this game in a single sit in, its bye bye internet connection or stump up the reconnection fee.

[cadaveca]

Pre-loads are awesome? STEAM is, and always will be my first choice for game purchases.

[thematrix606]

Originally Posted by Kreij

Huh. Never really viewed the US as a 3rd world country, but I guess I should start.



Our government doesn't supply our internet, private companies do. The problem is with demographics and population densities. It's changing here in the sticks, but change isn't all that quick many times. Thankfully the little telco coop nearby is expanding fiber in our area (something the big players were never interested in doing as the ROI would pretty much suck).

1 in 6 in the States have no food to eat, I saw this on an ad while visiting, I'd say that's real poverty.

And governments regulate, and that's what they should do when it comes to the internet. Just as if they would regulate a monopoly, or any other big company providing a service or a product to customers for an 'unfair' price. But that's a rather grey area. If most of Europe can have super fast internet speeds, I see no reason why USA should have a problem. Perhaps spend less on killing people, and more on investing in people? Hmm... food for thought.

[dlpatague]

Meh space is nothing. My gaming rig is setup with a 4.5TB RAID 0 with 5 Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HDD. Then I have the Intel 320 120GB SSD for the OS. I have about 1TB of games already. 35GB wont take that long to download.