Power Supply Surges detected during the previous power on

Irish_PXzyan · Apr 26, 2012, 09:51 PM

Well lads!

I've been suffering plenty of random restarts since I built this new system over a week ago!

I got this error on my last random restart:
Power Supply SUrges detected during the previous power on.
ASUS Anti-Surge was triggered to protect system from unstable power supply unit!

This error barely shows up after random restarts but this is the third time in a week it gave me this error!

Is it simply down to the PSU getting old?? Or is the motherboard faulty?
ANy suggestions would be lovely!

ShiBDiB · Apr 26, 2012, 09:53 PM

It's telling you how to fix it... try a spare psu.. the end

Seriously how much easier does it get.

Irish_PXzyan · Apr 26, 2012, 11:26 PM

Why thank you for your polite answer! much appreciated!

would this psu do the job?
http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/...t/details.aspx

OneMoar · Apr 26, 2012, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish_PXzyan

Why thank you for your polite answer! much appreciated!

would this psu do the job?
http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/...t/details.aspx

should be more then enough

brandonwh64 · Apr 26, 2012, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish_PXzyan

Why thank you for your polite answer! much appreciated!

would this psu do the job?
http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/...t/details.aspx

Perfect!

OneMoar · Apr 26, 2012, 11:33 PM

this one would also work
http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/...t/details.aspx

Irish_PXzyan · Apr 26, 2012, 11:37 PM

Thank you lads!!!

How's about the one from antec?
http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/...t/details.aspx

It's 5 euro more?! It's got this quad rail thing compared to corsairs single rail??
Any benefits to that?

Edit: thanks onemoar but I want to get a future proof PSU while I'm at it! cheers!

brandonwh64 · Apr 26, 2012, 11:38 PM

Nope, Get the corsair.

Irish_PXzyan · Apr 26, 2012, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneMoar

should be more then enough

Why's that?? corsair simply that bit better??

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Nope, Get the corsair.

OneMoar · Apr 26, 2012, 11:40 PM

I would check you're current psu with a quality mulimeter to see if its actually spiking or if its just a sensor glitch
just trying to save you a few bucks You don't need a monster psu with you're setup

brandonwh64 · Apr 26, 2012, 11:41 PM

I have had better luck with corsair PSUs

Irish_PXzyan · Apr 26, 2012, 11:48 PM

I don't have a meter or anything to check! I'm only going by the power surge error and the random crashes! like.. I can be idle on the desktop and it crashes! or playing a heavy game such as BF3! crashes are entirely random!

OneMoar · Apr 26, 2012, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish_PXzyan

I don't have a meter or anything to check! I'm only going by the power surge error and the random crashes! like.. I can be idle on the desktop and it crashes! or playing a heavy game such as BF3! crashes are entirely random!

nm drunk didn't read the whole post ... carry on tehn

Irish_PXzyan · Apr 26, 2012, 11:54 PM

Drink away OneMoar! what better way to be!

slyfox2151 · Apr 27, 2012, 12:12 AM

Single rail is always better.

go with corsair, awesome brand.

Done and Done.

qubit · Apr 27, 2012, 12:17 AM

Get Corsair as they make excellent PSUs (as do a few others like Seasonic) and always go for single rail whenever possible, this is important. That way you never have to faff around trying to make sure that you don't overload any particular rail.

Irish_PXzyan · Apr 27, 2012, 12:22 AM

Thanks lads!
Corsair ftw so!

I have one question.

If I replaced my GTX 560Ti with my old 8800GTS card. would that use a lot less power and prevent the system from crashing until I get the PSU replaced?

Would this be a good way of figuring out if the system is not getting enough power???

slyfox2151 · Apr 27, 2012, 12:30 AM

not really as they will use similar amounts of power.
you also said it shutdowns on idle. so its likely not related to power consumption.

a better option would be to disable any overclocking you have as that will drastically reduce power consumption. also enable C1E and Speedstep.

Irish_PXzyan · Apr 27, 2012, 01:00 AM

I've down that already and it didn't fix anything!
CPU can be 10 or 87 watt usage and it will still crash no matter how much it's using!

Enabling C1E and speedstep didn't help either :/

95Viper · Apr 27, 2012, 01:56 AM

It maybe the PSU, however it may be the motherboard or connections.

Check all your power connectors, if, you are using a modular PSU then check those, too.
What bios are you on... I believe 3703 is the latest try flashing to the newest.
There, also, maybe an option in the bios to turn that monitor off, if you wish to.

You really need to test the PSU or, at least try some software to see what the min and max voltages are.
HWInfo, Aida, HWMonitor, or equiv. may give you some insight to what is happening; they are not as good as a meter or tester, but it is something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneMoar

I would check you're current psu with a quality multimeter to see if its actually spiking or if its just a sensor glitch
just trying to save you a few bucks

Actually, good idea. Drunk or not.

EDIT: I would not advise testing the PSU while drunk!

newtekie1 · Apr 27, 2012, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slyfox2151

Single rail is always better.

You do know that modern Multi-Rail PSUs are just Single-Rail PSUs with Over Current protection, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by qubit

always go for single rail whenever possible, this is important. That way you never have to faff around trying to make sure that you don't overload any particular rail.

It isn't really important, the "rails" on a good PSU are divided in a way that if you manage to overload one you are hooking something up wrong.

slyfox2151 · Apr 27, 2012, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

You do know that modern Multi-Rail PSUs are just Single-Rail PSUs with Over Current protection, right?

yes.

were true multi rail PSUs ever made for the masses?

newtekie1 · Apr 27, 2012, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slyfox2151

yes.

were true multi rail PSUs ever made for the masses?

Then why would you ever say a single rail is always better?

And yes.

Irish_PXzyan · Apr 27, 2012, 12:00 PM

Thanks Viper!
I have the latest BIOS so that didn't fix anything at all for me :/
You said that there might be a way of turning the monitor off in the BIOS? Are you referring to the anti-surge protection or something else?

I downloaded HWmonitor and currently this is what it shows:

value min max
CPU VORE 0.94V 0.94 1.26
VIN1 1.02V 1.02V 1.02V
AVCC 3.34V 3.02V 3.58V
3VCC 3.31V 3.10V 3.62V
VIN4 1.01V 1.00V 1.01V
VIN6 0.77V 0.71V 0.84V

Are they looking normal??

My computer has only been on for a half hour and it has crashed twice already!
I'm going to open the PC up and checn every cable. I don't have modlular as I bought this PSU over 4 years ago!

FreedomEclipse · Apr 27, 2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish_PXzyan

I bought this PSU over 4 years ago!

Theres your problem - its old and all the components inside are probably all worn out. time to get a new one.

I never keep a PSU longer then 3years unless its my backup rig which is rarely powered on.

Apr 26, 2012, 09:51 PM	#1
Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	Power Supply Surges detected during the previous power on Well lads! I've been suffering plenty of random restarts since I built this new system over a week ago! I got this error on my last random restart: Power Supply SUrges detected during the previous power on. ASUS Anti-Surge was triggered to protect system from unstable power supply unit! This error barely shows up after random restarts but this is the third time in a week it gave me this error! Is it simply down to the PSU getting old?? Or is the motherboard faulty? ANy suggestions would be lovely!

Processor:	Intel i5 2500k 4.4Ghz + Corsair A50 cooler
Motherboard:	ASUS P8Z68-V LX
Cooling:	2x 120mm front fans + 1x 120mm side fan + 1x 80mm Rear fan + 1x 120mm roof fan
Memory:	8Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR3 CL9 1600Mhz
Video Card:	ASUS Geforce GTX 560 Ti 1Gb Direct CU II TOP @1ghz core clock
Hard Disk:	WD Caviar Black 750GB 3,5" 32mb cache, dual Processor
Optical Drive:	LG Super Multi DVD-RW 20x
CRT/LCD Model:	Philips 27" Gioco Brillance 3D 1080p LED AH-IPS
Case:	Gigabyte Gz-G2 Gaming case
Sound Card:	Onkyo TX NR313 AV Receiver + 5.1 TANNOY Mercury F1 + Auzentech Prelude X-fi + Logitech G930
PSU:	Corsair TX750M Enthusiast series
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

Apr 26, 2012, 09:53 PM	#2
ShiBDiB Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,124 (1.77/day) Thanks: 98 Thanked 612 Times in 459 Posts System Specs	It's telling you how to fix it... try a spare psu.. the end Seriously how much easier does it get. __________________ My Heatware

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Apr 26, 2012, 11:26 PM	#3
Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	Why thank you for your polite answer! much appreciated! would this psu do the job? http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/...t/details.aspx

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Apr 26, 2012, 11:33 PM	#6
OneMoar Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,259 (1.99/day) Thanks: 88 Thanked 420 Times in 360 Posts System Specs	this one would also work http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/...t/details.aspx __________________ I am not here to be nice, I am not here to be polite BUT I am here to help ...

Apr 26, 2012, 11:37 PM	#7
Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	Thank you lads!!! How's about the one from antec? http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/...t/details.aspx It's 5 euro more?! It's got this quad rail thing compared to corsairs single rail?? Any benefits to that? Edit: thanks onemoar but I want to get a future proof PSU while I'm at it! cheers!

Apr 26, 2012, 11:38 PM	#8
brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chatsworth, GA Posts: 13,560 (10.04/day) Thanks: 2,138 Thanked 5,338 Times in 3,695 Posts System Specs	Nope, Get the corsair. __________________ Cruncher's: All GPU's GPU's: 7970 3GB Unlocked = 8 Threads 5770 1GB OCed = 2 Threads

Apr 26, 2012, 11:40 PM	#10
OneMoar Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,259 (1.99/day) Thanks: 88 Thanked 420 Times in 360 Posts System Specs	I would check you're current psu with a quality mulimeter to see if its actually spiking or if its just a sensor glitch just trying to save you a few bucks You don't need a monster psu with you're setup __________________ I am not here to be nice, I am not here to be polite BUT I am here to help ...

Apr 26, 2012, 11:41 PM	#11
brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chatsworth, GA Posts: 13,560 (10.04/day) Thanks: 2,138 Thanked 5,338 Times in 3,695 Posts System Specs	I have had better luck with corsair PSUs __________________ Cruncher's: All GPU's GPU's: 7970 3GB Unlocked = 8 Threads 5770 1GB OCed = 2 Threads

Apr 26, 2012, 11:48 PM	#12
Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	I don't have a meter or anything to check! I'm only going by the power surge error and the random crashes! like.. I can be idle on the desktop and it crashes! or playing a heavy game such as BF3! crashes are entirely random!

Apr 26, 2012, 11:54 PM	#14
Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	Drink away OneMoar! what better way to be!

Apr 27, 2012, 12:12 AM	#15
slyfox2151 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 2,515 (1.59/day) Thanks: 57 Thanked 528 Times in 470 Posts System Specs	Single rail is always better. go with corsair, awesome brand. Done and Done. __________________ “it's still EA.. they will F* it up. F*ing up games is the only thing they do consistently.” -TRIPTEX_MTL

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Apr 27, 2012, 12:17 AM	#16
qubit Overclocked quantum bit Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Quantumville UK Posts: 8,640 (4.34/day) Thanks: 4,169 Thanked 3,301 Times in 1,941 Posts System Specs	Get Corsair as they make excellent PSUs (as do a few others like Seasonic) and always go for single rail whenever possible, this is important. That way you never have to faff around trying to make sure that you don't overload any particular rail. __________________ Siggie in the post.

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Apr 27, 2012, 12:22 AM	#17
Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	Thanks lads! Corsair ftw so! I have one question. If I replaced my GTX 560Ti with my old 8800GTS card. would that use a lot less power and prevent the system from crashing until I get the PSU replaced? Would this be a good way of figuring out if the system is not getting enough power???

Apr 27, 2012, 12:30 AM	#18
slyfox2151 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 2,515 (1.59/day) Thanks: 57 Thanked 528 Times in 470 Posts System Specs	not really as they will use similar amounts of power. you also said it shutdowns on idle. so its likely not related to power consumption. a better option would be to disable any overclocking you have as that will drastically reduce power consumption. also enable C1E and Speedstep. __________________ “it's still EA.. they will F* it up. F*ing up games is the only thing they do consistently.” -TRIPTEX_MTL

Apr 27, 2012, 01:00 AM	#19
Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	I've down that already and it didn't fix anything! CPU can be 10 or 87 watt usage and it will still crash no matter how much it's using! Enabling C1E and speedstep didn't help either :/

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Apr 27, 2012, 12:00 PM	#24
Irish_PXzyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic Of Ireland Posts: 2,079 (0.87/day) Thanks: 522 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts System Specs	Thanks Viper! I have the latest BIOS so that didn't fix anything at all for me :/ You said that there might be a way of turning the monitor off in the BIOS? Are you referring to the anti-surge protection or something else? I downloaded HWmonitor and currently this is what it shows: value min max CPU VORE 0.94V 0.94 1.26 VIN1 1.02V 1.02V 1.02V AVCC 3.34V 3.02V 3.58V 3VCC 3.31V 3.10V 3.62V VIN4 1.01V 1.00V 1.01V VIN6 0.77V 0.71V 0.84V Are they looking normal?? My computer has only been on for a half hour and it has crashed twice already! I'm going to open the PC up and checn every cable. I don't have modlular as I bought this PSU over 4 years ago!

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Sound Card:	Creative SB Z {Speakers: Logitech Z-5500 }
PSU:	Corsair HX1050 Bro'fessional
Software:	Windows 7 7600 x64
Benchmarks:	(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

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