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Old May 3, 2012, 05:08 AM   #1
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Colorful GeForce GTX 670 Graphics Card Pictured

Here are the first pictures of Colorful GeForce GTX 670. The card, according to the source, sticks to NVIDIA reference design. It's not much different from the other GeForce GTX 670 cards pictured till date, but it's the card's rear view picture that caught our attention. We noticed from pictures of MSI's card, that the two 6-pin PCI-E power connectors are located more towards the central portion of the card, than towards the end, this led us to believe that the GTX 670 will have a shorter than usual PCB, which these latest pictures confirm.

The PCB (rear) picture reveals quite a few things. To begin with, the VRM area is moved to the front portion of the PCB, similar to AMD's HD 7800 series. A great deal of compacting has been done, the eight GDDR5 memory chips are spread across both sides of the PCB (four on each side), probably to manage heat and wiring better. The portion of the cooler that's sticking out of the card needn't pack metal parts (heatsinks), there's just a chamber for the fan. NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 670 is expected to launch later this month.



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Old May 3, 2012, 05:13 AM   #2
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So the PCB is that short. Weird, especially for a card in it's range, does this mean lower power and heat? WILL IT GO FANLESS??????????? Or single slot maybe???
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strange pcb ... anyway I have ordered gtx 680 sc so I don't need it
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The look and feel of 560 SE, the price of GTX 580.
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So the PCB is that short. Weird, especially for a card in it's range, does this mean lower power and heat? WILL IT GO FANLESS??????????? Or single slot maybe???
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The look and feel of 560 SE, the price of GTX 580.
Most likely because the GK104 was the original GTX660
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I have a feeling NVIDIA is making insane profits with Keplers. That PCB is extreme cost cutting move. But its amazing same time if they can compete with card like that.
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I have a feeling NVIDIA is making insane profits with Keplers. That PCB is extreme cost cutting move. But its amazing same time if they can compete with card like that.
They probably haven't, yet, because there aren't many available cards from Kepler's arch for sale and they have to cover the R&D costs before then can make a profit but i wouldn't be surprised if, in the long run, they did make quite the profit with this new arch.

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if the PCB really is that short, I'd be interested to see if any manufacturers put the fan and heatsink directly over the chip. Would be a killer vga card to use in a super tiny case.
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They probably haven't, yet, because there aren't many available cards from Kepler's arch for sale and they have to cover the R&D costs before then can make a profit but i wouldn't be surprised if, in the long run, they did make quite the profit with this new arch.

Time will tell.

what he means is that these were supposed to be their mid end card yet they sell them at high end prices
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what he means is that these were supposed to be their mid end card yet they sell them at high end prices
Regardless: my point is still valid because you can't find many Kepler's cards for sale, be them 680s or others.

Your point (and his) will have merit once availability improves but, until then, i think not.
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if the PCB really is that short, I'd be interested to see if any manufacturers put the fan and heatsink directly over the chip. Would be a killer vga card to use in a super tiny case.
I would want to get me one of these, not that i have a tiny case, but coz i don't like those long PCBs i find them largely unnecessary. So a short GTX670 that short as the PCB would be a card of my choice.
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Regardless: my point is still valid because you can't find many Kepler's cards for sale, be them 680s or others.

Your point (and his) will have merit once availability improves but, until then, i think not.
The GTX680 is selling pretty well, whether there is one in stock for 5 minutes or not. It's sold more than HD7800 series, the HD7950 and more then the HD6990 ever did, for example.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/directx/

ATI Radeon HD 7970
Jan 0.04% Feb 0.22% Mar 0.34% Apr 0.36%
Last month change +0.02%

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680
Mar 0.04% Apr 0.22%
Last month change +0.18%

ATI Radeon HD 6990
Apr 0.18%
-0.02%

ATI Radeon HD 7950
Apr 0.12%
-0.02%

ATI Radeon HD 7800 Series
Apr 0.12%
+0.10%

Yeah it's too soon for recovering the entire R&D, but on a per card basis they are making a huge profit and they ARE selling them by the thousands == huge profits.

BTW in those numbers there's also a hint of why you can now find so many HD7900's series cards in stock unlike in previous months. Basically they have not been selling a lot last month when they became overpriced and underperforming compared to GTX680.
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"Guys, the PCB is THAT short. there's no way we can market a card named GTX670 that will look like a friggin GT440."
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"Guys, the PCB is THAT short. there's no way we can market a card named GTX670 that will look like a friggin GT440."
no matter the look, as long as the performance is there, it deserves the name. what it doesnt deserve is the pricetag. by shorter pcb, modified to direct fan or fanless (hope it wont needed fancy cooler since the gpu is small and not too hot), and open casing, it might drive the price into sub 300usd, even lower to 250usd. If it happened, then we not need gtx660 anymore.
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it might drive the price into sub 300usd, even lower to 250usd. If it happened, then we not need gtx660 anymore.
Don't hold your breath.

I agree that this card is a real testament of what GK104 really is (or was), before TSMC capacity problems made GK100 difficult to make* and before they learned that it was able to beat HD7970, but now it is what it is. I'd love it to sell for <$300, it should sell for <$300, but it won't. The even more crippled GTX 660, maybe, maybe...

* I'm 99% sure it is actually easier than GF100 to make and had Tahiti been faster they would have released it with a cluster disabled or something, like GTX480 and like GTX 480 it would have a been a somewhat desperate move. But TSMC capacity is not good and GK104 beats Tahity so they dont need desperate moves that can hurt their bottom line if anything goes wrong, and now we have what we have.
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The GTX670 looks similar to a GTX560SE:

http://www.techpowerup.com/162296/ZO...TX-560-SE.html

The PCB in both cards are small.
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The way it looks like they should sell it at a MSRP of 350$.
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This looks cheap but oh wait it's not.
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Don't hold your breath.

I agree that this card is a real testament of what GK104 really is (or was), before TSMC capacity problems made GK100 difficult to make* and before they learned that it was able to beat HD7970, but now it is what it is. I'd love it to sell for <$300, it should sell for <$300, but it won't. The even more crippled GTX 660, maybe, maybe...

* I'm 99% sure it is actually easier than GF100 to make and had Tahiti been faster they would have released it with a cluster disabled or something, like GTX480 and like GTX 480 it would have a been a somewhat desperate move. But TSMC capacity is not good and GK104 beats Tahity so they dont need desperate moves that can hurt their bottom line if anything goes wrong, and now we have what we have.
Not sure if I agree. Looking back at the 500 series. Nvidia did the same thing. They sold the GF110 (The original GTX 580) with two revisions as different 560 TIs. A look at what was to come. Cutting cost on multiple SKUs and using a single sku for the complete line disabling features as you go down the line. It was to be expected or not out of the ordinary since it was done with the 500 series.
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and you call that a design ? that s*it looks worse than 8400
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This thing is epic! If this is all true you can now have the ultimate mini ITX box ever. This also must not use much power.

Wonder if this has to do with the May 10th nda?
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