Small Cool and Silent?

washd123 · May 3, 2012, 06:03 AM

I've been looking for a case that's small cool and quiet with size and silence taking priority. Is this a dream in vein? Does such a case exist? I currently have a Antec P180-mini which I though would work but it's too big outside for the space inside (should be an ATX case not mATX). It's pretty silent and it's wicked cool (also looks cool). I'm looking for a new one though. Also for size I don't want a case any longer than the P180-mini preferably not as long, the height and width are fine. Also I'd prefer one that's easy to work in or relativally so. This case is a pain.

Jetster · May 3, 2012, 08:27 AM

Your being very vague. Exactly what size do you need and what parts do you want have to put inside? Also there is a difference between Micro ATX (mATX) and Mini ATX (ITX) Also what do you want it to do with it? Game, HTPC? Actually I have a p 180 also but have the full size one.

There are many quiet small cases. From the Mini Zotacs to Silverstone GD05 which will hold a full size GPU and 3 - 120 fans for cooling and is very quiet. There are also ways to make a case even quieter. Fan controllers, passive cooling, insulation and rubber gaskets for the PSU and hard drives.

Interesting that you mentioned the Antec P180. It has no window and insulated side panels. A must for sound control. I love mine

So you want a case that is the same size as the P180 Mini but not as deep?

de.das.dude · May 3, 2012, 08:30 AM

stock you will get lots of small cases that support mATX but most of them are hot.
so you have to mod them, like i did to my prev case. now its all silent and cool

Jetster · May 3, 2012, 08:39 AM

http://www.acousticpc.com/quiet_comp...nsulation.html

http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/buildaquietpc.html

The Antec Solo has the latest noise reduction technology dual-layer sound deadening panels and a suspension system that makes hard drive noise a thing of the past.
Antec Solo Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Comput...

washd123 · May 3, 2012, 08:48 AM

Thanks for the guides and replies.

the size of the P-180 is fine, as long as it's either as deep or less, anything deeper will stick out.

Height wise I don't want higher than 19", I believe depth is 17"

at this size though I want a ATX case, if it's smaller I can settle for mATX (micro) like I have now

Jetster · May 3, 2012, 09:09 AM

One thing I didnt like about the P180 is the cable management. They didnt put enough space behind the mother board to run wires. I drilled some holes for mine but they fixed the proble whe the P 183 came out. The Antec P280 has the best insulation but its 22" deep where the SOLO is 18 1/2 " deep

Norton · May 3, 2012, 10:46 AM

Silverstone PS07

SilverStone SST-PS07B Black Steel / Plastic with A...

or TJ08

SilverStone Temjin Series TJ08B-E Black Aluminum f...

Both are great quiet microATX cases

lZKoce · May 3, 2012, 11:33 AM

Fractal Design Arc Mini (not Midi) : Fractal Design Arc Mini Black High Performance PC ...

Cooler Master Elite 361: http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/prod...roduct_id=3074

Silverstone SG04-FH: SilverStone Sugo Series SG04B-FH Black Aluminum / ...

Silverstone SG03B: SilverStone Fortress Series FT03B Black Aluminum /...

I would personally go with Fractal Design Arc Mini: balanced, easy to work with, comes with 3 fans! and a fan controller (you can move the front fan to the door and get a better airflow), and has space for any of the pre-assmebled liquid cooling solutions: Corsair H40/60/80/100, Antec Khuler etc... You can get it as low as 70 euros, which I think it's a steal.

washd123 · May 4, 2012, 06:20 PM

I'm thinking of the silverstone TJ08

does anyone have experience with it? The reviews look positive, but how hard is it to build in?

my P180-mini is an ass to build and wire.

sneekypeet · May 4, 2012, 06:32 PM

The TJ08-E was cool to build in. Removable motherboard tray, removable top panel to get to the PSU and ODD wiring, a stand for the CPU cooler to help support it. There is just so much to like in that little case. With the 180mm fan, the silence factor depends on what you put in it. I could hear my GPU and CPU fans over the case, but that can be remedied with the right selection of parts.

I do strongly suggest a PSU that is modular, and if possible to have one with a short cable kit to keep the air flow mostly uninterrupted.

Norton · May 4, 2012, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

The TJ08-E was cool to build in. Removable motherboard tray, removable top panel to get to the PSU and ODD wiring, a stand for the CPU cooler to help support it. There is just so much to like in that little case. With the 180mm fan, the silence factor depends on what you put in it. I could hear my GPU and CPU fans over the case, but that can be remedied with the right selection of parts.

I do strongly suggest a PSU that is modular, and if possible to have one with a short cable kit to keep the air flow mostly uninterrupted.

TJ-08 and the PS-07 are essentially the same case (same internals with a different front panel and fan setup (PS-07 has 2x120mm fans, TJ-08 has 1x180mm fan)

The PS-07 build I did was silent and as sneekypeet said it depends on the components selected.... I used a Xigmatek Gaia and a 6670 with an Arctic Cooling fan/heatsink.

I did quite well with the non-modular PSU is used. There was a lot of room behind the mobo tray to hide extra cables

My $0.02

washd123 · May 4, 2012, 08:12 PM

I have a gtx560ti HAWK from MSI. It's silent. also I have a cooler master hyper 212. I'm thinking of replacing the stock fans with 800RPM fans from scythe

sneekypeet · May 4, 2012, 08:21 PM

That's what I was getting at. They seem like good choices. Should keep noises to very minimal levels.

washd123 · May 4, 2012, 08:26 PM

thanks guys. I will be hopefully doing this in a few months. What about the cooler master silencio 550?

it's a little bigger than I want, but you think it'd be any easier to build with? any quieter? or any cooler?

sneekypeet · May 4, 2012, 08:29 PM

I don't remember it being as nice as the TJ, but if I recall it does have sound proofing applied to the front and side panels.

washd123 · May 4, 2012, 09:57 PM

yeah but in my experience the foam does little.

I think I'm going with the TJ08 the ps07 is cheaper but I like the way the tJ looks.

next question is about a cpu cooler, what do you think would be quieter, a coolermaster hyper 212 with 2 900rpm fans? or a corsair h60 with 1 or 2 900rpm fans? I'm thinking the corsair would be easier to build with.

They should both perform about the same, but I'm worried about the sound, any suggestions?

Jetster · May 4, 2012, 11:20 PM

Dont run two fans is you want it quiet. Also the 212 EVO fan is loud. Not sure how much louder then the 212+

But I would change the stock fan on the 212 if you want it quiet. To like a COUGAR CF-V12HP Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing Silent Cooling Fan. I just bought one and its pretty quiet

sneekypeet · May 4, 2012, 11:25 PM

h60 would be rough in the TJ with a 180mm fan hole

washd123 · May 4, 2012, 11:49 PM

yeah I wouldn't use the stock fans for the hyper 212, it's not too bad I have one right now.

just wondering if the h60 with 1 or 2 low RPM fans would be better. the hyper 212 is rough to install in a tiny case. and sneekypeet the TJ08 has a 120mm fan in the back

Norton · May 5, 2012, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by washd123

yeah I wouldn't use the stock fans for the hyper 212, it's not too bad I have one right now.

just wondering if the h60 with 1 or 2 low RPM fans would be better. the hyper 212 is rough to install in a tiny case. and sneekypeet the TJ08 has a 120mm fan in the back

Removable mobo trays on those Silverstone's... need to pull the tray to put most tower coolers on. It's easy when the mobo is out of the case but if you want to leave it in there you may have easier time with a water setup

washd123 · May 5, 2012, 12:15 AM

do you think one would be quieter than the other? I'd use the same fans for both but I know the h60 also has the pump going

Norton · May 5, 2012, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by washd123

do you think one would be quieter than the other? I'd use the same fans for both but I know the h60 also has the pump going

A large tower with quiet fans would probably be best IMHO. The Xig I used in my setup was set to Cool n Quiet (AMD system w/Phenom II X2 555) and the fan was under 600 rpm and quiet regardless of the load and always ran cool.

washd123 · May 5, 2012, 12:24 AM

I can't do a large tower due to where I have my computer, it's why I can't do a case that's deep it'd stick out.

Norton · May 5, 2012, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by washd123

I can't do a large tower due to where I have my computer, it's why I can't do a case that's deep it'd stick out.

Check the width on that TJ-08 then to make sure it will fit where you need it.... it's a wide case and can fit a large cooler.

Just checked, the width on the PS-07 and TJ-08 is 8.27"

washd123 · May 5, 2012, 12:34 AM

width is fine, it's the depth that matters to me, my p180-min is 8.3" wide and 17.2" deep any deeper and it'd stick out

May 3, 2012, 06:03 AM	#1
washd123 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 50 (0.13/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Small Cool and Silent? I've been looking for a case that's small cool and quiet with size and silence taking priority. Is this a dream in vein? Does such a case exist? I currently have a Antec P180-mini which I though would work but it's too big outside for the space inside (should be an ATX case not mATX). It's pretty silent and it's wicked cool (also looks cool). I'm looking for a new one though. Also for size I don't want a case any longer than the P180-mini preferably not as long, the height and width are fine. Also I'd prefer one that's easy to work in or relativally so. This case is a pain.

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May 3, 2012, 08:27 AM	#2
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,848 (2.34/day) Thanks: 923 Thanked 850 Times in 623 Posts System Specs	Your being very vague. Exactly what size do you need and what parts do you want have to put inside? Also there is a difference between Micro ATX (mATX) and Mini ATX (ITX) Also what do you want it to do with it? Game, HTPC? Actually I have a p 180 also but have the full size one. There are many quiet small cases. From the Mini Zotacs to Silverstone GD05 which will hold a full size GPU and 3 - 120 fans for cooling and is very quiet. There are also ways to make a case even quieter. Fan controllers, passive cooling, insulation and rubber gaskets for the PSU and hard drives. Interesting that you mentioned the Antec P180. It has no window and insulated side panels. A must for sound control. I love mine So you want a case that is the same size as the P180 Mini but not as deep? Last edited by Jetster; May 3, 2012 at 08:34 AM.

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May 3, 2012, 08:30 AM	#3
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Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,848 (2.34/day) Thanks: 923 Thanked 850 Times in 623 Posts System Specs	http://www.acousticpc.com/quiet_comp...nsulation.html http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/buildaquietpc.html The Antec Solo has the latest noise reduction technology dual-layer sound deadening panels and a suspension system that makes hard drive noise a thing of the past. Antec Solo Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Comput... Last edited by Jetster; May 3, 2012 at 08:46 AM.

May 3, 2012, 08:48 AM	#5
washd123 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 50 (0.13/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Thanks for the guides and replies. the size of the P-180 is fine, as long as it's either as deep or less, anything deeper will stick out. Height wise I don't want higher than 19", I believe depth is 17" at this size though I want a ATX case, if it's smaller I can settle for mATX (micro) like I have now

May 3, 2012, 09:09 AM	#6
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,848 (2.34/day) Thanks: 923 Thanked 850 Times in 623 Posts System Specs	One thing I didnt like about the P180 is the cable management. They didnt put enough space behind the mother board to run wires. I drilled some holes for mine but they fixed the proble whe the P 183 came out. The Antec P280 has the best insulation but its 22" deep where the SOLO is 18 1/2 " deep

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May 4, 2012, 06:20 PM	#9
washd123 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 50 (0.13/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I'm thinking of the silverstone TJ08 does anyone have experience with it? The reviews look positive, but how hard is it to build in? my P180-mini is an ass to build and wire.

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May 4, 2012, 08:12 PM	#12
washd123 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 50 (0.13/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I have a gtx560ti HAWK from MSI. It's silent. also I have a cooler master hyper 212. I'm thinking of replacing the stock fans with 800RPM fans from scythe

May 4, 2012, 08:21 PM	#13
sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 18,983 (7.32/day) Thanks: 3,032 Thanked 5,481 Times in 3,947 Posts System Specs	That's what I was getting at. They seem like good choices. Should keep noises to very minimal levels. __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

May 4, 2012, 08:26 PM	#14
washd123 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 50 (0.13/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	thanks guys. I will be hopefully doing this in a few months. What about the cooler master silencio 550? it's a little bigger than I want, but you think it'd be any easier to build with? any quieter? or any cooler?

May 4, 2012, 08:29 PM	#15
sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 18,983 (7.32/day) Thanks: 3,032 Thanked 5,481 Times in 3,947 Posts System Specs	I don't remember it being as nice as the TJ, but if I recall it does have sound proofing applied to the front and side panels. __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

May 4, 2012, 09:57 PM	#16
washd123 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 50 (0.13/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	yeah but in my experience the foam does little. I think I'm going with the TJ08 the ps07 is cheaper but I like the way the tJ looks. next question is about a cpu cooler, what do you think would be quieter, a coolermaster hyper 212 with 2 900rpm fans? or a corsair h60 with 1 or 2 900rpm fans? I'm thinking the corsair would be easier to build with. They should both perform about the same, but I'm worried about the sound, any suggestions?

May 4, 2012, 11:20 PM	#17
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,848 (2.34/day) Thanks: 923 Thanked 850 Times in 623 Posts System Specs	Dont run two fans is you want it quiet. Also the 212 EVO fan is loud. Not sure how much louder then the 212+ But I would change the stock fan on the 212 if you want it quiet. To like a COUGAR CF-V12HP Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing Silent Cooling Fan. I just bought one and its pretty quiet

May 4, 2012, 11:25 PM	#18
sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 18,983 (7.32/day) Thanks: 3,032 Thanked 5,481 Times in 3,947 Posts System Specs	h60 would be rough in the TJ with a 180mm fan hole __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

May 4, 2012, 11:49 PM	#19
washd123 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 50 (0.13/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	yeah I wouldn't use the stock fans for the hyper 212, it's not too bad I have one right now. just wondering if the h60 with 1 or 2 low RPM fans would be better. the hyper 212 is rough to install in a tiny case. and sneekypeet the TJ08 has a 120mm fan in the back

May 5, 2012, 12:15 AM	#21
washd123 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 50 (0.13/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	do you think one would be quieter than the other? I'd use the same fans for both but I know the h60 also has the pump going

May 5, 2012, 12:24 AM	#23
washd123 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 50 (0.13/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I can't do a large tower due to where I have my computer, it's why I can't do a case that's deep it'd stick out.

May 5, 2012, 12:34 AM	#25
washd123 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 50 (0.13/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	width is fine, it's the depth that matters to me, my p180-min is 8.3" wide and 17.2" deep any deeper and it'd stick out

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