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Old May 5, 2012, 07:41 AM   #151
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the price went down from 987e to 949e in hours.if the price goes down to 750e by the time I'm ordering a new comp I'm getting one
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Doubt 7990 will beat this monster in games, unless AMD does something radical.
However, 7970 is a versatile card (GPGPU, Double Precision etc), GTX680 (and 690 ofcourse) is only (very) good at gaming.
if anything the 7990 will be more power efficient running in Crossfire
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amd 7990 wins only if its performance equal to 7970 CF, and its price tag is $699.
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Now you've gone and made me pull out my voodoo5 again.....
Pity 3dfx management wasted them, even more of a pity that Nvidia did nothing with most of the tech they aquired from 3dfx.

I don't know if todays gpus could be that closely packed to gether. It would be quite a bit of heat and a lot of power running through one card.
A question I don't know the answer to, would pcie 3.0 be able to transfer that much data for 4 gpus on one x16 connection?
Answer to your question:
The way I see it is that....say someone wants to run two GTX 690s in SLI on Z77 motherboard....This means that each video card will run at x8 Speed. So each GPU will run at x4 speed right?

Anyway, I'm ready for 24" videocards

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the price went down from 987e to 949e in hours.if the price goes down to 750e by the time I'm ordering a new comp I'm getting one
Meanwhile, in a parallel universe.....

$1200 on Newegg out of stock

$1650 on Amazon LOL
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Meanwhile, in a parallel universe.....

$1200 on Newegg out of stock

$1650 on Amazon LOL
Seems you're right, dude!

This is what happens when one manufacturer has a better product then the competition instead of similar one (in all aspects: performance, consumption, noise, OCing): said manufacturer get's to play Intel.

@ $999 this card was expensive, yes, but the price fitted IMO given the performance over the 680. @ $1200, $1648 or whatever other higher figure, it's just plain robbery: something a dominant company can afford to impose.

This is why i was hoping that, whoever won this fight, did so by a very small margin so that they'd keep fighting with the prices: no such luck this time around
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Answer to your question:
The way I see it is that....say someone wants to run two GTX 690s in SLI on Z77 motherboard....This means that each video card will run at x8 Speed. So each GPU will run at x4 speed right?

Anyway, I'm ready for 24" videocards
Good way to look at it.

24" @_0 My case isn't even that deep!

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Seems you're right, dude!

This is what happens when one manufacturer has a better product then the competition instead of similar one (in all aspects: performance, consumption, noise, OCing): said manufacturer get's to play Intel.

@ $999 this card was expensive, yes, but the price fitted IMO given the performance over the 680. @ $1200, $1648 or whatever other higher figure, it's just plain robbery: something a dominant company can afford to impose.

This is why i was hoping that, whoever won this fight, did so by a very small margin so that they'd keep fighting with the prices: no such luck this time around
Unfortunately that is the market, not the manufactures. If Nvidia limited retale sales to about $1k (more for OC, water block, etc) then we would be buying them on ebay from the same sellers that are selling them for $1650 on amazon. Either way the 690 and 680 would be more expensive than retail because of the lack of supply.
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Unfortunately that is the market, not the manufactures. If Nvidia limited retale sales to about $1k (more for OC, water block, etc) then we would be buying them on ebay from the same sellers that are selling them for $1650 on amazon. Either way the 690 and 680 would be more expensive than retail because of the lack of supply.
But this wouldn't happen if the 680 and 7970 were more evenly matched, which is exactly my point.
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This is disgusting This industry better sort their shit out! boycott GTX 690
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This is disgusting This industry better sort their shit out! boycott GTX 690
Why? Do you see any boycotts for Intel's I7 3960X?
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$1000 - 1650 Ultra highend
$380 - 500 highend
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$150 - 240 <we could offer you something at this price range, but then our profit wouldn't be ridiculously high enough, you know>
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But this wouldn't happen if the 680 and 7970 were more evenly matched, which is exactly my point.
Nvidia did this already. They released the G104 as the 680 instead of the G110 which was supposed to be. Why would they want to cripple the G104 chip to make it closer?
Granted they could have released it cheaper than they did but again that comes back to how much would it sell for if there isn't enough stock.


Boycott are great if everyone is onboard. Unfortunately many of the people that will buy the 3960X and GTX 690 have the money and to a degree don't care about the cost.
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Boycott are great if everyone is onboard. Unfortunately many of the people that will buy the 3960X and GTX 690 have the money and to a degree don't care about the cost.
Agree! This is one of the expressions of injustice! Like: I have the money so why should i care about someone that don't, and turning the head, the other way.
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Meanwhile, in a parallel universe.....

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So where do you live? in the US? its funny when europeans have better prices than americans
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So where do you live? in the US? its funny when europeans have better prices than americans
Colombia, South America
Here, the GTX 680 costs $650 - 750 dollars.
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Here, the GTX 680 costs $650 - 750 dollars.
in germany the cheapest gtx 680 costs 480eur,in slovenia the cheapest card costs 535eur
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Here, the GTX 680 costs $650 - 750 dollars.
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in germany the cheapest gtx 680 costs 480eur,in slovenia the cheapest card costs 535eur
As i said, the price is the same everywhere
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How many other graphic card vendors offer warranty's longer than 3 years ?

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Thank you for reading my opinion so intently; there are still various AIB's depending on the model that have faith in their products... Diamond: 5yr, VisionTek: Lifetime; XFX: Lifetime.

While I believe PNY, EVGA, Galaxy all use to, but have truly shy'd away the last few generations which is suspect. I just was indicating if I was paying that amount, I’d see it as a marketing advantage to stand behind more than the average 3Yr. You might consider it’s satisfactory, though for me I'd wait it out to see if any AIB might have higher confidence in their offering. That said, probably all of these will just be Nvidia manufactured and test, then delivered for stickers by the AIB, I suppose it’s not in the hands of the AIB to stand behind it further. And while there none really accessible in the market, waiting is all anyone can do!

As to the crying jpg. cute; although when you take it to such a personal level, and then with some unprovoked and childish retort you only undermine your own credibility.
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XFX: Lifetime.
Uh, XFX doesn't offer lifetime on all 7-series products. 2 years now for reference cards, while only come of their "Double Dissipation" cards get lifetime.

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•Cards with Double Dissipation (Double D) or whose product number ends in "R" get Lifetime warranty if registered within 30 days.
•All other cards (ex: HD 7970 Core Edition; FX797ATNFC) get 2 Year Warranty
http://www.techpowerup.com/159346/XF...ics-Cards.html

That says XFX doesn't trust reference design, IMHO.


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W1zzard or anyone, can you tell me if the data presented in this table are "near" to reality or too close to Sci-Fi?


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What I find biased, is the fact that every review with nVidia cards, the HD6990 is using the dumbed down clock speeds. Those speeds at 830 were for the kids that put the 6990 in a mid tower pc. If you do an unbiased review of a gpu against the HD6990, then at least do it with the correct clock speeds. Yes I own an XFX HD 6990. I know what it can do and what it can not do. I'm running BFBC2 @ everything maxed out on triple monitors at 5760 x 1080 and can still pull off almost 200 frames per second at the default clock speed of 880 on the HD 6990 with the BIOS switch in the "correct" position. I do have my fan turned up, that is what gaming headsets are for. While I agree the fan is a bit noisy, it still is a respectable card and showed nVidia how to produce a product that doesn't catch fire. (GTX 590)

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